Originally Posted by ITDEFX cochese needs to update the OP title saying Spock has come out of the closet!

Done.

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Good article at Topless Robot: The 11 Greatest Star Trek: Deep Space 9 Supporting Characters

http://trekmovie.com/2011/11/14/new-...ng-remastered/

Hmmm.... the latest screen caps are starting to impress me..... I was really hoping for redone sfx :(

The DVD presentation was murky all the way thru :( .... I don't like that "24 years in the making"............. ok, then that better be 24 years of restoration lol.

Originally Posted by blandstalker Good article at Topless Robot: The 11 Greatest Star Trek: Deep Space 9 Supporting Characters

As soon as I clicked on it I thought "Gul Dukat has it locked" then when I read their reasoning for Garak it gave me slight cause to reconsider. In the end though I have to go with Dukat. He, without a doubt, had the most fun character arcs of not only any character in DS9 but in all of Star Trek. The back and forth of him when he was a character you kind of rooted for to (as the article pointed out) a character whose ruthlessness was only matched by Khan was absolutely excellent viewing.

I still think Garak had a very excellent story arc as well but essentially he was basically the "hero version" of Dukat with the addition of a "mysterious past." Now don't get me wrong, I'm not selling Garak short by any stretch of the imagination but I've gotta say he's only slightly edged out by Dukat.

At the end of the day though, this entire list (Weyoun, Martok, also f-ing excellent characters as well) speaks of how absolutely amazing the characterizations were in DS9. The fact that there were so many great characters and even characters that were taken to new and much more interesting heights (O'Brien and Worf) beyond their somewhat simplistic characters in TNG. The more I think about it, I'm really thinking that was probably why DS9 was so much better than Voyager and Enterprise, their characters were so damn compelling.

Damn, I really rambled on here, didn't I? Ah well.

Originally Posted by ITDEFX http://trekmovie.com/2011/11/14/new-...ng-remastered/ Hmmm.... the latest screen caps are starting to impress me..... I was really hoping for redone sfx :( The DVD presentation was murky all the way thru :( .... I don't like that "24 years in the making"............. ok, then that better be 24 years of restoration lol.

Wow, that looks great. But I've already watched TNG enough that by the time I have the urge to watch it again the entire show will be in blu ray and cheap enough for me to pick up.

Also for all the Trek fans interested in the MMO. Star trek online F2P was pushed back to Jan 17th.

Originally Posted by blandstalker Good article at Topless Robot: The 11 Greatest Star Trek: Deep Space 9 Supporting Characters

What? No Liquidator Brunt? They had a lot of good characters that don't even make the list, Eddington, Grand Nagus Zek, Ziyal, Vedek Bareil, Tain, Sisko's father, never liked Kasidy Yates though.

The nice thing about big budget shows is the ability to have such a large cast of quality recurring characters.

Wow, the restoration looks great, even the internal shots with them just standing around talking.

Now back when it was originally released on TV, it looked pretty good in SD. For the DVD release, they probably used a shitty codec and compression level that made things murky so that they could squeeze 4-5 episodes per disc. They were meant for the SD Era, which is now slowly fading away and the level of quality is poor for the HD era. With new codecs and compression techniques, I am pretty sure we are going to get what we saw back in the broadcast days, with some digital fixing. What I am wondering is :

-How much is this project costing Paramount a season.
-How much will be passed down to consumers when the first full season arrives?....200 dollars per season?
-Will they add more material that was not included in the original DVD release like out takes, bloopers, test shots and so on to make it worth the price they are asking for or is it just porting over what we had before?

Originally Posted by ITDEFX Now back when it was originally released on TV, it looked pretty good in SD. For the DVD release, they probably used a shitty codec and compression level that made things murky so that they could squeeze 4-5 episodes per disc. They were meant for the SD Era, which is now slowly fading away and the level of quality is poor for the HD era. With new codecs and compression techniques, I am pretty sure we are going to get what we saw back in the broadcast days, with some digital fixing. What I am wondering is : -How much is this project costing Paramount a season. -How much will be passed down to consumers when the first full season arrives?....200 dollars per season? -Will they add more material that was not included in the original DVD release like out takes, bloopers, test shots and so on to make it worth the price they are asking for or is it just porting over what we had before?

I would expect the HD sets to cost no more then 80 bucks a season. That's how much the TNG sets cost when they first came out and plenty of trek fans paid that much. Remember Trek fans have been buying the shows to watch at home since the VHS days. They are used to spending too much.

Any more then 80 bucks per season will make sure only die hards pick it up.

I'm sure it cost paramount a ton of money to make TNG in HD but they also now have the possiblity to sindicate it in HD like they did with TOS. That alone I bet will cover the cost of redoing the show.

Originally Posted by KingDox I would expect the HD sets to cost no more then 80 bucks a season. That's how much the TNG sets cost when they first came out and plenty of trek fans paid that much. Remember Trek fans have been buying the shows to watch at home since the VHS days. They are used to spending too much. Any more then 80 bucks per season will make sure only die hards pick it up. I'm sure it cost paramount a ton of money to make TNG in HD but they also now have the possiblity to sindicate it in HD like they did with TOS. That alone I bet will cover the cost of redoing the show.

At that time (2002), I paid 100 bucks at best buy "on sale". Then they cranked the price up to 110-120.

its sad how fast the Blu-Ray feature films (1-6) and (Next Gen) went 60% off, good for my wallet, bad for my appreciation of the series

LOL I forgot Data was dead. He's not really though, right? Nemesis was a bad dream if I remember correctly...

Originally Posted by Javery LOL I forgot Data was dead. He's not really though, right? Nemesis was a bad dream if I remember correctly...

Yeah... I enjoyed Nemesis and don't quite understand all the flack it gets, but the ending with Data was totally unnecessary. I guess for the final TNG film, it was a bit underwhelming, just felt like a high-budget, long episode, but I certainly didn't hate it.

Originally Posted by Javery LOL I forgot Data was dead. He's not really though, right? Nemesis was a bad dream if I remember correctly...

...Read Star Trek Countdown (the tie in comic for Star Trek 2009)

Originally Posted by johnnypark Yeah... I enjoyed Nemesis and don't quite understand all the flack it gets.

Saw this on George Takei's facebook page and thought Id pass it along-

Originally Posted by dothog

Meh. Something for the fanbois to bitch about.

You can say that, but that whole scene was unnecessary and stupid, like a lot of Nemesis.

I just started to watch enterprise and damn I am really enjoying it. I just finished season 1 and am now said that there are only 3 seasons total.

I have really gotten into TNG despite not being a very big Star Trek fan in the past. I've been watching episode by episode and am now somewhere in season 4. I have a question that my friends (who are bigger Trekkies than I) and I have been having a hard time figuring out though:

If 2 federation starships were heading toward each other, both with full power to shields, would they collide? Would the shields act like bubbles and they bounce off each other? Would the shields meld into one massive shield and then the starships collide?

Let's say they're running on quarter impulse power or just kind of drifting toward one another, not warp 9 or anything like that.