Originally Posted by blindinglights So I should be disappointed that my team got a big money bowl because they didn't deserve it? Were you disappointed that Louisville was considered to even have a chance to make a BCS bowl? Because losing to the crappy out of conference teams on your schedule is even worse than not beating them convincingly.

No to the second part, because if they went it would have been because they won their conference, if VT won their conference I wouldn't have a problem with them going to a BCS bowl. And to the the first part, I didn't really mean disappointed... I meant more of "What the ? Why are we here?" reaction. And Tech is not in a rebuilding year, all they lost was Tyrod.

And my whole anger isn't personal, I'm just pissed that a 11-1 Boise team, a 10-2 Kansas State team, a 10-2 TCU team, and a 10-2 SC team didn't make a bowl, when every single one of those teams had better wins/harder schedules.

Originally Posted by gbpackers94 And Tech is not in a rebuilding year, all they lost was Tyrod.

...and replaced him with a first time starter who came to college to play tight end, and only had experience from some light backup duty in blowouts last year. Plus a young defense that ended up being decimated by injuries.

There are some pretty decent bowls this year, despite the BCS's lack of great games. Here are some that I think will be fun to watch:
Florida State vs. Notre Dame, 12/29, 5:30pm, ESPN (Champs Sports Bowl)
Nebraska vs. South Carolina, 1/2, 1pm, ESPN (Capitol One Bowl)
Michigan State vs. Georgia, 1/2, 1pm, ABC (Outback Bowl)
Wisconsin vs. Oregon, 1/2, 5pm, ESPN (Rose Bowl)
Kansas State vs. Arkansas, 1/6, 8pm, FOX (Cotton Bowl)

Originally Posted by gbpackers94 There are some pretty decent bowls this year, despite the BCS's lack of great games. Here are some that I think will be fun to watch: Florida State vs. Notre Dame, 12/29, 5:30pm, ESPN (Champs Sports Bowl) Nebraska vs. South Carolina, 1/2, 1pm, ESPN (Capitol One Bowl) Michigan State vs. Georgia, 1/2, 1pm, ABC (Outback Bowl) Wisconsin vs. Oregon, 1/2, 5pm, ESPN (Rose Bowl) Kansas State vs. Arkansas, 1/6, 8pm, FOX (Cotton Bowl)

We are going to kill Notre Dame. Notre Dame hasn't played a defense like ours all season. Just prepping you.

I think the Orange Bowl will be a fun one to watch. A good offense showdown.

Fiesta Bowl final score should look like a Basketball score since both of their defenses suck.

Originally Posted by lordopus99 We are going to kill Notre Dame. Notre Dame hasn't played a defense like ours all season. Just prepping you.

Godspeed my son. Make the TD Jeebus weep delicious tears.

Florida State beat ONE team with a winning record this year. ONE!

Originally Posted by lordopus99 We are going to kill Notre Dame. Notre Dame hasn't played a defense like ours all season. Just prepping you. I think the Orange Bowl will be a fun one to watch. A good offense showdown. Fiesta Bowl final score should look like a Basketball score since both of their defenses suck.

I hope Florida State crushes Notre Dame. Then Brian Kelly can start off the season with a bunch of high hopes from unrealistic and impatient boosters, endure another mediocre to average season, get one more year if he's lucky, be fired, and then they can start their ridiculous cycle of expecting too much too fast all over again.

Originally Posted by perdition(troy Florida State beat ONE team with a winning record this year. ONE!

And that was a shutout...

3 of our 4 losses were lost by a score or less against Bowl teams without our starting QB and leading WR. And that was with the ACC refs against us during all ACC play. Don't believe me...

Here was Miami... Luckily this ref screwjob didn't cost us a game. Biggest one of all is at 15:02 mark... a legal hit gets our top LB ejected from that game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX8x6CqR0y8

Never saw one of these before until it happened against us against NC State...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRDvXtS4uzE

These are just instances of what happened all year. ACC refs shouldn't be officiating our Bowl game

Originally Posted by blindinglights I hope Florida State crushes Notre Dame. Then Brian Kelly can start off the season with a bunch of high hopes from unrealistic and impatient boosters, endure another mediocre to average season, get one more year if he's lucky, be fired, and then they can start their ridiculous cycle of expecting too much too fast all over again.

This.

It never gets old either. The notion that Brian Kelly is some sort of class act is what really burns my grits. Dude abandoned Cincinnati before their bowl game a couple years ago for that big catholic money. him and any team he coaches.

Originally Posted by lordopus99 Fiesta Bowl final score should look like a Basketball score since both of their defenses suck.

I'd take it over 9-6 any day.

Yeah, I hate defensive battles. Really looking forward to the Fiesta Bowl and Rose Bowl as those should be shootouts.

I don't really like WVU's chances in the Orange. Defense has been week all year, and our offense has struggled to put points up the 2nd half of the season. Could get ugly if Clemson jumps on us early.


As for ND-FSU--two of my most hated teams. So it's one of those 'hope for a meteor strike' matchups.

Originally Posted by dmaul1114 I don't really like WVU's chances in the Orange. Defense has been week all year, and our offense has struggled to put points up the 2nd half of the season. Could get ugly if Clemson jumps on us early.

Don't underestimate Clemson's ability to Clemson itself.

My goodness, so much love for the Irish in this thread...

I will be rooting for Kansas State, Notre Dame, and for Mizzou to get beat by North Carolina since they decided to skip town on the Big 12 and on Kansas City.

Originally Posted by Chitown021 My goodness, so much love for the Irish in this thread...

I just think it's comical that they seriously expect to contend for national titles every single year (although, I've noticed some fans over the last few years have toned that down to BCS bowls, which is still pretty comical), yet the boosters refuse to let anyone have enough time to get their system and players firmly in place.

I seriously don't understand why any good coach with rising stock would ever want to go there. The program "prestige" seems like it would be far overshadowed by the ridiculous expectations.

Originally Posted by blindinglights I just think it's comical that they seriously expect to contend for national titles every single year (although, I've noticed some fans over the last few years have toned that down to BCS bowls, which is still pretty comical), yet the boosters refuse to let anyone have enough time to get their system and players firmly in place. I seriously don't understand why any good coach with rising stock would ever want to go there. The program "prestige" seems like it would be far overshadowed by the ridiculous expectations.

That is annoying. I'm a fan but a realistic one. In the past couple years my goal has just been to WIN a frickin' bowl game. We went so long without winning one it was pathetic. Also the hiring and firing of coaches has been insane. You've got to give a guy at least a few years to implement their system and recruit their guys.

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RG3 for Heisman! He won't win but I think he's the most deserving of all the candidates IMHO. He put up ridiculous numbers against quality Big 12 opponents. He did the most with the least with Baylor.

Originally Posted by Chitown021 RG3 for Heisman! He won't win but I think he's the most deserving of all the candidates IMHO. He put up ridiculous numbers against quality Big 12 opponents. He did the most with the least with Baylor.

If the award is for the player that meant the most to his team, it's absolutely ridiculous if he doesn't get it.

It's not an MVP award. It's just an award for the best player.

I'd probably go with RG3 as well. Mathieu is probably the best player, but he's such a douchebag and had the drug issue so I don't think he'll get the votes. Hard for a defensive player to win even without the extra baggage.

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssport...32522/33728643

Looks like the Big East expansion/replacements will finally be announced tomorrow per CBSSports.

Will be adding Boise State, San Diego State, Houston, SMU and UCF in 2013. First two football only, latter 3 in all sports.

Guess Air Force and Navy are still holding out.

Originally Posted by dmaul1114 Looks like the Big East expansion/replacements will finally be announced tomorrow per CBSSports. Will be adding Boise State, San Diego State, Houston, SMU and UCF in 2013. First two football only, latter 3 in all sports. Guess Air Force and Navy are still holding out.

Does this mean the ACC gets Pitt and Syracuse next year? VT has Pitt scheduled as an OOC game, I'm wondering if we get a different opponent should they become ACC teams next year.