Originally Posted by Outinthedark What beat-em-up isn't a mindless button-masher?

Guardian Heroes.

Since everyone is weighing in on Castle Crashers I am going to also.

IMO -

The 3 most overrated XBLA Games:
1. Castle Crashers
2. Braid
3. Shadow Complex

The 3 most underrated XBLA Games:
1. Geometry Wars (1 & 2 really)
2. Torchlight
3. Puzzle Quest

Originally Posted by S0DA POPINSKI Since everyone is weighing in on Castle Crashers I am going to also. IMO - The 3 most overrated XBLA Games: 1. Castle Crashers 2. Braid 3. Shadow Complex

Here we go.....

X-Men Origins DLC is literally just a combat room where you can spawn doods to fight. It's not really worth the price. A preorder goodie back before they figured they could offload those for cheap Deus Ex/JC2 style

Originally Posted by S0DA POPINSKI Since everyone is weighing in on Castle Crashers I am going to also. IMO - The 3 most overrated XBLA Games: 1. Castle Crashers 2. Braid 3. Shadow Complex The 3 most underrated XBLA Games: 1. Geometry Wars (1 & 2 really) 2. Torchlight 3. Puzzle Quest

You are apparently drinking too much "soda". Shadow Complex is.... how do the kids say it these days? Oh yeah.. "The bomb diggity". Puzzle Quest and Torchlight are awesome so you get no complaint there. Castle Crashers I love. Braid... I own Braid. Had it for 2 years. Never played it beyond the demo.

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Yeah I was not a Braid fan, either. Great art style and music, but the puzzles just weren't very fun.

Originally Posted by OnyxPrimal You are apparently drinking too much "soda". Shadow Complex is.... how do the kids say it these days? Oh yeah.. "The bomb diggity". Puzzle Quest and Torchlight are awesome so you get no complaint there. Castle Crashers I love. Braid... I own Braid. Had it for 2 years. Never played it beyond the demo.

I think Shadow Complex is a good game. I just didn't think it was so great like everyone else. I really didn't understand why everyone loved it so much. Braid was good, Castle Crashers was ok too. But all 3 I bought on soooo many peoples recommenations and I just didn't find them that awesome. The 3 I listed as underrated I found to be the best on XBLA (Along with PacMan CE DX)

I remember reading that Torchlight did really well on XBLA, and the game has sold well over a million copies across all platforms. I don't think you can really call it underrated.

I'm not sure how Geometry Wars is underrated. They're critically acclaimed and beloved XBLA games, so the only way they could be underrated is if you think they should be bigger than Jesus.

bastion is the most overrated

take out that narrator and nobody remembers it

Originally Posted by wEEman33 Yeah I was not a Braid fan, either. Great art style and music, but the puzzles just weren't very fun.

I'm a huge fan of puzzle games, and Braid is my favorite XBLA game. I was so proud of myself that I only had to look up 1 answer.

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki I'm not sure how Geometry Wars is underrated. They're critically acclaimed and beloved XBLA games, so the only way they could be underrated is if you think they should be bigger than Jesus.

I would agree with this statement completely.

Also, to make sure this thread stays off the rails, I'd say the most overrated are Castle Crashers, Trials HD, N+, and Pacman Championship Edition DX. Underrated would include Raskulls, Rocket Riot, Winterbottom, and Shuggy.

Originally Posted by Crono-00 I could have sworn I spent quite a few sentences explaining my dislike of a game was due to its mechanics and not its popularity. It probably was the great mystery, since I love the mindless button mashing, how I was unable to enjoy it as others do. I have illustrated all the mechanical reasons to how it didn't feel right to me in an earlier post ... but it was not due to its popularity. I can also take pleasure in popular games as well.

You did explain. I wasn't directing that comment at you. I just know there are a lot of haters for seemingly no reason and I expect them to start coming out of the wordwork. If you don't like it that's cool. As my dad always says "If everyone liked the same things, everyone would be after your mother".

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki I'm not sure how Geometry Wars is underrated. They're critically acclaimed and beloved XBLA games, so the only way they could be underrated is if you think they should be bigger than Jesus.

Pretty much what I was gonna say. You cannot say that two of the biggest XBLA games are underrated. That's like saying Halo or Gears of War are underrated.

My underrated/underapreciated XBLA games would be both Penny Arcade Adventures episodes, Chime, Joe Danger SE, Space Invaders Infinity Gene, and Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes HD.

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki My underrated/underapreciated XBLA games would be both Penny Arcade Adventures episodes, Chime, Joe Danger SE, Space Invaders Infinity Gene, and Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes HD.

Space Invaders IG is ing amazing. I wish it would go on sale on PSN (again?) so I could play it again for some trophies.

Do we really need to debate this...the most underrated game by far is Risk: Factions

Edit: Well I see I shut that down proper

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki My underrated/underapreciated XBLA games would be both Penny Arcade Adventures episodes, Chime, Joe Danger SE, Space Invaders Infinity Gene, and Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes HD.

Penny Arcade and Spaced Invaders IG are both EXCELLENT and underrated games. Totally forgot about these because I have them on PSN. Swarm, Mercury Hg, and Fancy Pants Adventures are three more underrated hits.

Originally Posted by Chrono Gear Space Invaders IG is ing amazing. I wish it would go on sale on PSN (again?) so I could play it again for some trophies.

Again. I think it was on sale on PSN before XBLA, because I ended up with it on PSN.

Originally Posted by Thrinn The Devil May Cry series comes to mind. Some might argue that that's not a beat-em-up, but IMO that and the modern Ninja Gaiden games are pretty much what the genre has evolved into. The later games in the series have some gameplay mechanics that are pretty tough to master.

No, they're a different genre. The one you're talking about is referred to as 'action.' There are similarities, but you might as well try to claim that modern Ninja Gaiden games are platformers since they have some jumping.

I always hate when people start making overrated lists, etc. because it's basically just an excuse to hate on or criticize something that lots of other people like. I do not see the need to do that...

Originally Posted by Barry Burton take out that narrator and nobody remembers it

That's a poor argument.

Take out Master Chief and nobody remembers Halo
Take out falling blocks and no one remembers Bejeweled
Take out plastic guitars and no one remembers Guitar Hero