I got 2 50's and I got bored of the game about a month ago. I might subscribe for a little while around 1.2. My 2 accounts are actually still going was hoping they would last till 1.2 on the prepaid cards I had added.

Hmm....I guess the reports about TOR causing PC problems is true...my machine is slowing to a crawl and now getting weird pop up errors.

I've got far from a "new" PC and SWTOR hasn't caused any issues with my machine.

Originally Posted by ITDEFX Hmm....I guess the reports about TOR causing PC problems is true...my machine is slowing to a crawl and now getting weird pop up errors.

What "reports" are you speaking of? I haven't heard anything, and it runs just fine on both of my machines.

I have a trial.. I just can not get into this game. Cut scenes for collecting items in a quest? I don't know. It's pretty and essentially has a cool factor, but this didn't feel like an MMO. Just a glorified single player game.

Not saying it's bad. Just saying.. it's really not for me.

Originally Posted by Lawyers Guns N Money What "reports" are you speaking of? I haven't heard anything, and it runs just fine on both of my machines.

I read it somewhere several weeks ago.

Originally Posted by lilboo I have a trial.. I just can not get into this game. Cut scenes for collecting items in a quest? I don't know. It's pretty and essentially has a cool factor, but this didn't feel like an MMO. Just a glorified single player game. Not saying it's bad. Just saying.. it's really not for me.

To be honest, I agree with you.. It feels very single player like....granted I was only on that one starter planet during the weekend, but I didn't see many people on.

I will wait for a price drop to around 30.

Originally Posted by ITDEFX To be honest, I agree with you.. It feels very single player like....granted I was only on that one starter planet during the weekend, but I didn't see many people on.

Even if there were a lot of people on you wouldn't see them thanks to their instancing. Though on your factions space station you'll see a lot more people as I believe instancing is a little bit different there than everywhere else.

Originally Posted by ITDEFX I read it somewhere several weeks ago. To be honest, I agree with you.. It feels very single player like....granted I was only on that one starter planet during the weekend, but I didn't see many people on. I will wait for a price drop to around 30.

ITs 40 on amazon today. I used some credit I had and got it for 20

Trust me, I'd be a happy motherer if the game really was single-player.

/pout

Originally Posted by The Crotch Trust me, I'd be a happy motherer if the game really was single-player. /pout

Originally Posted by Draekon Even if there were a lot of people on you wouldn't see them thanks to their instancing. Though on your factions space station you'll see a lot more people as I believe instancing is a little bit different there than everywhere else.

Now this is what is worrying me.... I don't want to drop 40-50 dollars on a game then pay 15 bucks a month to play what feels like a single player game and not met new people and so on.

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Originally Posted by Draekon Even if there were a lot of people on you wouldn't see them thanks to their instancing. Though on your factions space station you'll see a lot more people as I believe instancing is a little bit different there than everywhere else.

Depending on the server, this simply isn't true. Yes there's lots of instancing but rarely is it used outside of class quests. On my server, every area was bustling throughout the three characters I leveled to 50. Either they rolled on a dead server or things are beginning to slow down since many subs expired this week. Server mergers should be a priority at this point, but they never developed the tools prior to launch (and due to the complexity of the legacy system, the game might die before they're able).

Here's a general census of PvP servers during prime time as of March 1st:

Originally Posted by Jodou Depending on the server, this simply isn't true. Yes there's lots of instancing but rarely is it used outside of class quests. On my server, every area was bustling throughout the three characters I leveled to 50. Either they rolled on a dead server or things are beginning to slow down since many subs expired this week. Server mergers should be a priority at this point, but they never developed the tools prior to launch (and due to the complexity of the legacy system, the game might die before they're able). Here's a general census of PvP servers during prime time as of March 1st:

I think what you're thinking of is different than what I'm thinking of. While it's essentially the same thing, they're used in entirely different situations. I'm talking about load balancing instancing of zones that separates the population and causes you to see less than what's actually in the zone.

I still remember that time I was stuck on Illos 2 by myself... The joy of being told to "Get to X point to complete your daily, I'm waiting!" only to arrive and realize there's nothing happening and you're off in your own zone wide instance.

Originally Posted by Draekon I think what you're thinking of is different than what I'm thinking of. While it's essentially the same thing, they're used in entirely different situations. I'm talking about load balancing instancing of zones that separates the population and causes you to see less than what's actually in the zone. I still remember that time I was stuck on Illos 2 by myself... The joy of being told to "Get to X point to complete your daily, I'm waiting!" only to arrive and realize there's nothing happening and you're off in your own zone wide instance.

I haven't seen instances of world zones since the first month of release (except for Ilum but never more than two instances), and that's on The Fatman (#1 populated server). Even with the free weekend, it's highly unlikely the zones were that overloaded.

Well if they toned it down/removed it, then that's good. I couldn't say for certain because sometimes the planet wide whois wouldn't show which instance you were in. One patch you would see "Illos" on everybody and the next you would see "Illos 1" and "Illos 2".

I made the difficult decision to start from scratch on one of the more populated servers because I couldn't find anybody to raid with and my guild cancelled all future raids on Bondar Crystal. At most there were typically about 40-50 people on the fleet in the evenings. New server had 3 times that on just the starting planet and last night there were over 200 people on the fleet and another 170 on the planet I was questing. I hope that eventually I can migrate my lvl 50 GS and Sage over to merge with my new toon.

On the note of subs/server pop comparison, I tried WoW again over Spring Break and during peak hours I found a handful of servers with Standard load (none higher) but most were Light. I found 1 person in my starting area twice from levels 1-10 and one of them was the friend who urged me to try it again looking for me.

Originally Posted by woodcan I made the difficult decision to start from scratch on one of the more populated servers because I couldn't find anybody to raid with and my guild cancelled all future raids on Bondar Crystal. At most there were typically about 40-50 people on the fleet in the evenings. New server had 3 times that on just the starting planet and last night there were over 200 people on the fleet and another 170 on the planet I was questing. I hope that eventually I can migrate my lvl 50 GS and Sage over to merge with my new toon. On the note of subs/server pop comparison, I tried WoW again over Spring Break and during peak hours I found a handful of servers with Standard load (none higher) but most were Light. I found 1 person in my starting area twice from levels 1-10 and one of them was the friend who urged me to try it again looking for me.

Yours is a typical sob-story that is posted daily on the general forums. They overestimated the success of the game with roughly half the servers WoW currently has and ~1/10th the population. As for WoW, it's in a lull state until MoP which happens every expansion. Once you hit the ceiling, there's no reason to keep playing. TOR just happens to get there way too fast and the nerfs coming in 1.2 have already driven tons of people away.

They should have spent six years balancing and fine-tuning their MMO, not recording VO.

Free trial weekend for anyone who cares. You have to create a new account, but no CC is required and level cap is 15. Seems they're desperate to attract new customers given the string of free trial weekends.

Has anyone seen the numbers for March? That's a question, not a statement because they've been (unsurprisingly) quiet.

Seriously, Nadd's Sarcophagus (WC PvP) is barely hitting 40 people during peak hours in the fleet.

The game has things to like (ie. Star Wars stuff) but EA needs to back off and let Bioware/Mythic do their thing. 1.2 will not bring people back, lack of people= lack of PvP game, which means it takes even longer for me to get my BM gear. I don't want to wait 40 minutes just to play one game of warzone where everyone quits once they are down by a few points.

Damn I wish they'd take the level caps off the free weekends.

They are trying to give you a taste of their drug, the sad part is their drug only starts when you get off the first world. Then it fades away quickly after getting close to end game. For some it fades almost immediately.