Originally Posted by guardian_owl For my 3rd playthrough of ME2 I planned out ahead of time how to kill off all but the bare minimum amount of crew members needed to create an importable ME3 save just to see how things play out differently in ME3.

I'm impressed I tried to get the ending where Shepard bites it but I just couldn't make it happen. Killed off a bunch of crew though. I hadn't planned things out, and I think that's pretty much necessary. But honestly I don't even know where to begin planning it. My strategy was just to complete as fast as possible, piss off as many people as possible, and make bad squad decisions at the end.

Cheapy

Your if you're into real heroes and real human beings was hilarious and I couldn't stop laughing. It was even funnier that Wombat and Shipwreck could not get the joke.

Good Cagcast

Originally Posted by polly So is "Tai interrupts the Cagcast" going to be the new regular segment for the show? #imadick

That was really funny. It will only work if Wombat and Shippy keep making fun of Papa as he blows off his kid (here Tai, here's a bag of glass to play with, okay pal?).

Great show guys!

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Great episode. Cheapy's Javik voice is the greatest thing ever.

Good on ya Shipwreck for getting it out there: Mass Effect 3 can be super boring. I'm honestly surprised it scored so highly. Not a bad game at all, and there are some missions that are certainly memorable, but it's disappointing as a whole.

And Wombat, bad is the correct term when describing the Mass Effect 3 ending. Bad, terrible, nonsensical, awful. Take your pick. It's almost amazing how close BioWare got to the finish line before shitting it all up and falling on their faces.

Also Ship, I think you mentioned this before, but are you planning on playing Witcher 2 on 360? Lots of positive buzz out there about it being a fantastic port. I'm so hyped to finally play it. Struggled through the first Witcher on my laptop last year and it was amazing.

Originally Posted by Fjordson Great episode. Cheapy's Javik voice is the greatest thing ever. Good on ya Shipwreck for getting it out there: Mass Effect 3 can be super boring. I'm honestly surprised it scored so highly.

I'm not. Most of the press had their 9's and 10's ready before they even started playing the game. Here's one of the more obvious examples of a reviewer who blatantly ignores all of Mass Effect 3's faults.

http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/...ffect-3-review

That review was ridiculously bad. "Hope in Mass Effect 3 is the sharp edge of a knife, and BioWare wields that implement like a surgeon." /barf

Hey guys, great show as usual. I can't wait for the Mass Effect 3 spoiler show next week. Just one thing, please Cheapy stop it with the Jamaican accent for Javik. The character is clearly speaking in an African accent and the voice actor (Ike Amadi) is from Nigeria. Here's his Voiceover Universe page as proof, http://www.voiceoveruniverse.com/profile/IkeAmadi. It's a small annoyance but Cheapy kept using it throughout the last 2 shows and will bring it up constantly next week. So Cheapy please stop, its like hearing someone pretend to be French by speaking in a Russian accent.

Originally Posted by mwmike11 Guys, now that you have (hopefully) finished Mass Effect 3, you NEED to check out this video someone posted on YouTube. It explains an idea about the ending called in the Indoctrination Theory, that possibly gives clarity behind why the ending just didn't feel right. A LOT of the stuff this guy points out really seems to make sense. Great show, keep it up! I'm extremely far behind, having just started listening to them a couple months ago from the very beginning...I need a life...lol

I second this. I came to post it as well.

Spoilerish:
I'm not one to buy into these sorts of conspiracy theories, but I found this extremely compelling. The ending that everyone assumes to be the 'evil' ending (RED) is, I think, actually the best ending. The entire series, the mission has been to kill the reapers and survive. But the game indoctrinates the player, manipulating us into choosing the ending that undermines the very mission that the player has been working for the whole series.

It's as if Bioware has, indeed, indoctrinated it's players on a meta-level. Most players spent the series making decisions, not based on the decision itself, but on whether it was blue or red. We made every choice in the name of getting the 'best ending'. But at the very end Bioware used this against the player. The only ending in which the reapers die and Shepard survives, is the one we are tricked into not choosing.

Not only does this theory explain the ending in a much more interesting and consistent way, but it represents truly incredible meta-trickery. Perhaps the ending really was the shallow nonsense that it appeared to be, but I really think there was more too it. I suppose we'll see when the DLC comes.

Originally Posted by basston3s Laughed as Wombat butchered my user name. Is it that hard? Bass-tones. like a bass guitar. oh well. Pretty good show. Glad to hear feedback on Mass Effect 3. Can't wait for the spoiler discussion. Have you guys read up on the Indoctrination Theory? It's pretty interesting, and makes the ending tolerable. It's hard to believe it was intentional though. Check it out! *spoilers, obviously* Indoctrination Theory

I think it is an interesting theory also and would make for a better ending but it is still poorly executed and full of holes.
The reapers think that indoctrinating shepherd is so important that on earth the don't simply kill him and risk their own extinction yet on rannoch(tali's homeworld) they reaper has no qualms about trying to kill shepherd to stop him from liberating the geth. If the reapers are able to create such an elaborate illusion then why would the reapers be giving shepherd clues to the right choice? Even with the indoctrination view the whole 3 choice thing still ruins the approach, either a series of choice(like the rest of a the game) or being offered the three choices then doing something else would have made sense. Instead you are left with a choice that doesn't matter because you no longer have any emotional investment in the game.

I did any of the hosts romance tali? if so..
where you disappointed that they didn't render tali's face and that instead she leave's a photo of here face for you in your room which is just a stock photo of some chick from the internet with 2 of her fingers photoshoped off.


As for then ending ruining the whole game this game is more about the story than the game play. A game you play for the action having a bad ending doesn't really matter, but a story having a bad ending kind of ruins the whole story(I don't think anyone would be fans of starwars, OOoT, Chrono trigger,a tale of two cities ect... if their ending where this bad) if I had known the ending was going to be this bad I would have never played any of the games and if someone has never played any of the games I would recommend they skip the whole series.

"That series has potential" Did CHeapy just say something not hateful about capcom?

Screw it, just gonna spoiler the whole thing since its about the me3 ending. The problem with the red ending is that it also sucks. You'd be killing off EDI and exterminating the Geth who (at least in my game) Shepard risked her life to save rather than kill. Plus, it's just a snooze button until the reapers return. And the green ending turns you into Magneto from the first X-men movie: forced evolution for everyone! When the stupid kid started taking about organics and synthetics co-existing, I totally thought I was in the clear, given that Joker and EDI were in a relationship and the Geth and the Quarians were now working together. The game should've recognized that and allowed co-existence as an option if you had made those decisions earlier.

I really think that they just had the image of RoboJoker and EDI holding hands as a target for the ending, and they just threw together 3 shitty cinematics to get us to that point. If you check out the Ipad app "The Last Days of Mass Effect", you'll find out that Martin Sheen was recording the end dialog in November, well past the original release date. It certainly sounds like a rush job. But given that they were trying to produce a larger game + a new multiplayer component in a shorter timespan than ME2, I guess the whole thing was a rush job.

You guys forgot one party member that would be in your party even if you got the worst ME2 ending EDI

So for 3 games the Reapers have been telling us that in the end, all of Sheppard's actions don't really matter and when it happens, everyone throws a giant hissing fit.

Thanks for paying attention.

Sorry a lack of rainbows ruins a game for you.

We beatcha on a spoilercast by a week. http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/blog.php?b=23925

Hey I forgot to put in my two cents when you guys were asking for feedback a couple of podcasts ago but here's my beef. You guys are irreverent, I get that. But sometimes you guys come across as out of touch with the rest of the world. Case in point, Prothy the Prothean is not Jamaican, he's nigerian and in no way sounds Jamaican. The fact that you guys don't know that is irritating beyond end. More annoying is that white guy does jamaican accent Cheapy keeps doing. By the way, black people listen to your show too, keep that in mind every once in awhile. Just my two cents.

I'm totally with Ship on the idea that ME2 was just so damned good and 3 is disappointing because it's just not as good.

Also you guys brought up Dragon Age II when talking about Bioware and ME3 and I think that's funny because you mentioned that DAII is pretty much loathed by all fans of anything Bioware. Thing is, what made everyone hate that game so much is a prominent part of ME3.

Dragon Age II felt like a rip because of the very limited areas you had to explore. The city was a rather boring central hub, areas were reused to a shameful degree, and over all it just felt like it wasn't put together with the love and care that their other games up to that point seemed to have.

In ME3 though all you have is the stupid citadel, I think though this is harder to latch onto perhaps because you are exploring an entire universe, constantly going through mass relays and whatnot, but the only places you visit other than the citadel are for missions. Just like DAII. Plus, the ending of the game seemed to steal all thunderous disdain from the other issues.

Also, I completely agree with Wombat about the citadel. That place becomes a total ing chore. Half the time I have put into the game has been spent there just running around every square foot of that place making sure I over hear all the conversations I need to so that I can go on some bull shit fetch quest in some far off solar system. The citadel is a real cluster that I think serves as nothing more than cheap filler to supplement the main quest. The most disappointing thing though is the "check the block" interactions that you have with your squadmates from ME2.

My disgust with the game is fueled even more by the fact that I am playing on PC and I can't DL the free multiplayer DLC because when I click the "buy" button nothing happens. And also, the code redeem utility within origin doesn't work either so I can't even get my preorder bonuses.

Anyone else playing on PC have this issue?

Originally Posted by shipwreck I'm playing on the default difficulty and I've died either 2 or 3 times max. I'm 30 hours in and still using the same armor and sniper rifle that I started the game with. I did upgrade the rifle to Level 5 and attached whatever accessories to it I found. At least on the default difficulty the upgrades and need to switch armor and weapons seems trivial to me. I've never felt compelled to upgrade or switch anything, but there aren't enough fish and models in the game to blow all my money so I just end up spending it on stuff I don't care about or use.

Plus the N7 armor from the collectors edition had better stats than any of the other armor sets. The only positive I see from messing with the armor would be if you were an all biotic player, you could choose armor pieces that greatly increase recharge time and weight. Otherwise, no reason to buy any armor except for the achievement.

Originally Posted by Curufinwe I'm not. Most of the press had their 9's and 10's ready before they even started playing the game. Here's one of the more obvious examples of a reviewer who blatantly ignores all of Mass Effect 3's faults. http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/...ffect-3-review

You must not have ever read or listened to any of Arthur Gies' opinions before. He's one of the most honest game "reporters" I've ever read. People complaining or being bored by the ending doesn't make any sense to me. My "ending" happened throughout the entire game. The quest with Wrex and Mordin? Great. Tali and Legion? Great. Miranda? OK but still badass. All of the Liara stuff? Romantic and great. Sacrifice at the end? For me? Great.

Sure going back to the Citadel was a chore. But if you hadn't gone back you would miss out on a fantastic sequence with Garrus and an amazing, insightful conversation with Jamaica...I mean Javik.

Originally Posted by Dr. Treye Hey I forgot to put in my two cents when you guys were asking for feedback a couple of podcasts ago but here's my beef. You guys are irreverent, I get that. But sometimes you guys come across as out of touch with the rest of the world. Case in point, Prothy the Prothean is not Jamaican, he's nigerian and in no way sounds Jamaican. The fact that you guys don't know that is irritating beyond end. More annoying is that white guy does jamaican accent Cheapy keeps doing. By the way, black people listen to your show too, keep that in mind every once in awhile. Just my two cents.

Thanks for bringing that up! Although the way Cheapy does it, I think Arnold Schwarzenegger should be offended!