Originally Posted by kitsunisan Just curious, what was the price on that gun when it came out?

It was included with pre-orders in the UK and called the Climax Edition there. Curious though is in Australia, they had a climax edition that came with all that plus more.

Originally Posted by ZxT Vendetta It was included with pre-orders in the UK and called the Climax Edition there. Curious though is in Australia, they had a climax edition that came with all that plus more.

Damn it, came out before I really started watching for UK collectors editions, I'd have been all over that.

Is ubi NA braindead? Are they really still thinking about American Revolution themed CEs to, oh, AMERICA?

Originally Posted by RabbitSuit I agree. I still regret not picking up Bayonetta's Scarborough Fair replica gun. Maybe when I get a better source of income I'll track one down... maybe.

Yep, that is exactly the kind of collectible I am talking about. The people in charge of the special editions are utter morons in my book. The high end collectibles market has been exploding in recent years. The fact that this explosion of growth has continued on, even during one of the worst economic periods in US history, should tell those people something. But no, they are content releasing soundtracks, crappy art books and cheap polystone figures. It just blows my mind.

Don't get me wrong, there is obviously a market for the art book and soundtrack style special edition. If there wasn't they wouldn't be releasing so many of them. I am not suggesting that they stop making those special editions. They simply need to add another tier to the special edition market. They have done it a few times with some of the major releases but even those werent as nice as they should have been. I am talking about a 300+ dollar price point and limiting them to 500-5000 copies. That way they can actually commission a company like Sideshow or Weta to do the work on the item. There are already companies making high end replica's for Mass Effect and Gears of War and those companies are making big money on those items. Why wouldn't the video game companies want a piece of that action? It just doesn't make any sense. For example, take the new Bioshock. I guarantee if they released a top tier special edition, limited it to 500-5000 copies, and brought in WETA Workshop to design a replica weapon from the game....well, it would not only sell out super fast but it would also appreciate significantly in value. But, for some reason it just doesn't happen. I cant even tell you how many emails I have written the major game companies on this subject over the years. Too many too count. Yet year after year we get the same old special edition crap.

Oh well, at least we have some outside companies, like Tri-force, that are willing to go down this path.

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i take it u missed out on the kingdoms of amalur: reckoning special/limited editions...

Originally Posted by Righteous Nixon Yep, that is exactly the kind of collectible I am talking about. The people in charge of the special editions are utter morons in my book. The high end collectibles market has been exploding in recent years. The fact that this explosion of growth has continued on, even during one of the worst economic periods in US history, should tell those people something. But no, they are content releasing soundtracks, crappy art books and cheap polystone figures. It just blows my mind. Don't get me wrong, there is obviously a market for the art book and soundtrack style special edition. If there wasn't they wouldn't be releasing so many of them. I am not suggesting that they stop making those special editions. They simply need to add another tier to the special edition market. They have done it a few times with some of the major releases but even those werent as nice as they should have been. I am talking about a 300+ dollar price point and limiting them to 500-5000 copies. That way they can actually commission a company like Sideshow or Weta to do the work on the item. They are already companies making high end replica's for Mass Effect and Gears of War and the companies are making big money on those items. Why wouldn't the video game companies want a piece of that action? It just doesn't make any sense.

Man, we get so shafted on the collector's editions here in the States these days.

We do tend to pay less for them though.

I just mean when it comes to a lot of the special editions not getting a release here like they always do in Japan or Europe.

Originally Posted by RabbitSuit We do tend to pay less for them though.

Yeah, it's a bit of a double edged sword unless you really like investing in CEs. I love some of the european CE's out there but they are often well over 130+ to get them shipped to the states.

Originally Posted by technicalstylez i take it u missed out on the kingdoms of amalur: reckoning special/limited editions...

I didn't miss out, I simply had no interest. Its a great example in regards to what I am talking about with having different tiers for special editions but its also a perfect example in regards to my statement about there being companies that have done this but the end result wasn't as nice as it should have been or could have been.

IMO the top tier SE shouldn't have a soundtrack or an art book or any of the other cheapo items that the lower editions have. I am talking about a truly premium level special edition. One that has a numbered edition size and focuses all of the money on a single collectible. The price point should be at least $300 as that is the price point you need to get one of the top companies to make that collectible. Again, WETA, Sideshow, CS Moore, or TriForce are all perfect examples of such companies. With Kingdoms of Amalur, your basically getting a 75-100 dollar figurine from Mcfarlane Toys, along with a bunch of other crap. Don't get me wrong, this is most certainly a step in the right direction and its nice to see that the industry is slowly but surely working its way up there. That said, we still haven't seen a single company take that final step and release a special edition that is truly at the premium level. I have no doubt that we will eventually get there. Its just a shame that its taking a REALLY long time to get there.

So, you picking up that 1,000USD Resident Evil CE?

Originally Posted by Righteous Nixon I didn't miss out, I simply had no interest. Its a great example in regards to what I am talking about with having different tiers for special editions but its also a perfect example in regards to my statement about there being companies that have done this but the end result wasn't as nice as it should have been or could have been. IMO the top tier SE shouldn't have a soundtrack or an art book or any of the other cheapo items that the lower editions have. I am talking about a truly premium level special edition. One that has a numbered edition size and focuses all of the money on a single collectible. The price point should be at least $300 as that is the price point you need to get one of the top companies to make that collectible. Again, WETA, Sideshow, CS Moore, or TriForce are all perfect examples of such companies. With Kingdoms of Amalur, your basically getting a 75-100 dollar figurine from Mcfarlane Toys, along with a bunch of other crap. Don't get me wrong, this is most certainly a step in the right direction and its nice to see that the industry is slowly but surely working its way up there. That said, we still haven't seen a single company take that final step and release a special edition that is truly at the premium level. I have no doubt that we will eventually get there. Its just a shame that its taking a REALLY long time to get there.

From my standpoint, I'd rather have everything in all of the lower tiers of a SE if I'm buying the most expensive one instead of what you're saying.

Has anyone heard anything new about the Dirt Showdown Hoonigan Edition and the alleged Walmart preorder? Codemasters sent out a press release last week saying Walmart would have the Hoonigan Edition exclusively (different cover and some DLC) but on the website at least it just shows the regular vanilla version with the wrong release date.

Originally Posted by Burning Karma From my standpoint, I'd rather have everything in all of the lower tiers of a SE if I'm buying the most expensive one instead of what you're saying.

I would much rather the money go into the main collector piece. If I want the soundtrack and art book, Ill buy the lower end special edition. Trust me, the vast majority of people like myself, that are looking for a truly high end collector piece in a special edition, are FAR more concerned with the quality of that piece than they are getting a bonus soundtrack or cheap art book thrown in as well. All that does is add to the cost and ultimately take away resources from the main piece. Again, if those lower end collectibles were my focus, I would just buy the lower end special edition.

Don't get me wrong, I love art books but only if they are at a certain level quality wise and the art books that are included with special edition games are far below that level. If they were to create a higher quality art book for the higher tiered SE's...well, that would be a different story and I would be all for it but only if the cost of the book was added to the price instead of taking away resources from the main collector piece. In other words, if they want to add a high end art book and charge an additional 50-75 dollars instead of taking away money from the main piece then again, I would be all for it. I just don't want them taking away money from the main piece so they can throw in more stuff, especially if the stuff is nothing more than the lower end collectibles from the lower tiered SE's. That shouldn't be what a top tier SE is about. Make an amazing collectible and I guarantee people will be perfectly content getting just that item. Again, the new Bioshock is a perfect example. If they created a top tiered SE that had a gun replica that was on par with the Gears of War Cog pistol from Triforce, I guarantee people who purchased it would be 100% content with their purchase. They wouldn't be sitting there, staring at their new replica gun, feeling disappointed that a soundtrack or cheap art book wasn't also included.

Originally Posted by Righteous Nixon I would much rather the money go into the main collector piece. If I want the soundtrack and art book, Ill buy the lower end special edition. Trust me, the vast majority of people like myself, that are looking for a truly high end collector piece in a special edition, are FAR more concerned with the quality of that piece than they are getting a bonus soundtrack or cheap art book thrown in as well. All that does is add to the cost and ultimately take away resources from the main piece. Again, if those lower end collectibles were my focus, I would just buy the lower end special edition. Don't get me wrong, I love art books but only if they are at a certain level quality wise and the art books that are included with special edition games are far below that level. If they were to create a higher quality art book for the higher tiered SE's...well, that would be a different story and I would be all for it but only if the cost of the book was added to the price instead of taking away resources from the main collector piece. In other words, if they want to add a high end art book and charge an additional 50-75 dollars instead of taking away money from the main piece then again, I would be all for it. I just don't want them taking away money from the main piece so they can throw in more stuff, especially if the stuff is nothing more than the lower end collectibles from the lower tiered SE's. That shouldn't be what a top tier SE is about. Make an amazing collectible and I guarantee people will be perfectly content getting just that item. Again, the new Bioshock is a perfect example. If they created a top tiered SE that had a gun replica that was on par with the Gears of War Cog pistol from Triforce, I guarantee people who purchased it would be 100% content with their purchase. They wouldn't be sitting there, staring at their new replica gun, feeling disappointed that a soundtrack or cheap art book wasn't also included.

You bring up some very good points, but trying to assert (or at least, that's what I think you're doing) your opinion as universal for most people weakens your argument. I agree that CEs should have more quality behind them, as long as the price is within reasonable amounts (take the Resident Evil 6 premium edition for Japan that includes a replica of Leon's jacket for a whopping 105,000 yen/$1300; no way you won't have buyer's remorse after getting this). Even then, not all collectables, no matter their quality, would appeal to all people. The super premium for the US Disgaea 4, to cite an example, included a set of 9 trading figures, while the JP version received a single nendoroid figure (of higher quality). In this case, who's to say which version is superior? Inclusion of specific goods for the CEs are subjective in taste, and whether one desires quantity over quality (in which case, a true collector would buy both).

Not to mention if you collect a large number of series it's hard enough to keep up on CEs as it is. Saying that they should be super spendy and 'premium' is madness! On a side note, artbooks and soundtrack cds are my favorite thing to get in a CE. I would prefer a full sized, nicer artbook. I would also prefer a nice two disc soundtrack in its own jewel case, but that's about as premium as I want. Those stupid statues and what not take up too much space anyway. I have 700+ games to try and display, I don't need giant toys adding to the space. =P

Same. I prefer artbooks, since I did collect various artbooks, and still buy them sparingly. Soundtracks are nice because they're small and uniform sized, but I haven't listened to many soundtracks since Chronotrigger/Secret of Mana/Final Fantasy 4~8.

Occasionally, there comes along a very nice collectible, like the 999 watch, but those are rare.

I don't like statues, usually, because I collect bishoujo figures. I don't own any Bomes or Figmas, because I think they're poorly detailed (and the joints really bug me). Thus, I hated the fact we didn't get the Disgaea 4 Nendo. I still haven't bought Disgaea 4.

When I first saw the picture, I thought that his briefcase with his logo was the casing for the CE.. Glad I saw that that wasn't the case (heh) before I placed an order.

Record of Agarest War 2 Limited Edition

Is now listed on Amazon for $59.99. Comes with:

-blow up character doll
-heart shaped compressed towel
and artbook

Ordered the Agarest 2 from Amazon yesterday. I am hoping it'll be a better game than the Agarest 1. It had such a crappy story that it put me to sleep! The original Agarest War (starring Leonhardt) was much better.