Originally Posted by Jodou How about focusing on something people care about. It's about time we dropped the motion gaming and 3D fads.

Originally Posted by SynGamer I'll be honest...I have no desire to use the Move. I have all the accessories for it too. After seeing Kinect, Sony needs to go with route with the PS4, just...better.

I think the dipping sales of the Wii are good indication that people are done with motion controlled gaming. If anything, Kinect is the next step...

This re-launch is just going to be a waste of time and money for Sony. They should focus on more integrated gameplay between the Vita and PS3.

Originally Posted by anotherpoorgamer Time Crisis HD Collection (Time Crisis 2, Time Crisis 3, and Time Crisis: Crisis Zone with Move and Guncon 3 support) ^Hoping for this to appear!

completely agree

Originally Posted by Vinny I think the dipping sales of the Wii are good indication that people are done with motion controlled gaming. If anything, Kinect is the next step... This re-launch is just going to be a waste of time and money for Sony. They should focus on more integrated gameplay between the Vita and PS3.

The Wii sales are declining b/c of lack of games when skyward sword dropped it had an impact but those type of titles have been coming few & far between.

They're already invested in Move so they need to continue to support it since it'll be included in PS4. They need games plain & simple top tier gotta have titles(would have more impact if they're from established franchises at 1st). They need 5 games to really push move
1-Move exclusive with legs + following to bad they didn't get star wars since that would've been the perfect title.
2-A "Skylanders" hype children's game that has legs
3-A game that pulls in the hardcore gamer(needs to be from a AAA franchise like MGS, GOW, UC)
4-A massive smash like COD move edition(exclusives maps...)
5-Sorcery needs to meet expectations

I agree the need to continue to work with PS3/Vita cross play as well but that's needed for PS3 strength & vita growth.

The Move will never succeed. Sony has proven time and again that they have no idea how to support accessories. Its a joke and a waste of money. Kind of like the Vita unless that somehow takes off

Originally Posted by Enuf Where have you been there's been dozens of 50% all Move accessories deals, AMZ, BB, TRU, Target, Walmart...mayham, KZ3, 007, R3 sharpshooter bundles have been clearanced out from $60-$80(current if you can find 1). Not mention most of the excess software can be found $8-$15 new. Even the standard Sports Champ bundle is like $60-$80 now. Best bet now is to grab a sharpshooter bundle(even if you don't like the game/sharpshooter sell it to defer cost). There should extremely high focus surround the next waves of titles coming which is what most people have been waiting for.

No stores near me have the $79.99 bundles in stock otherwise I would buy it.

I didn't really have any interest in the Move 'till about a week and a half ago. I would have bought the Amazon LD on Move stuff, but I was at work at the time so I missed it.

I found Move to be more frustrating than functional. Having to recalibrate the controller every 10-15 minutes is indescribably annoying.

Originally Posted by HaLLuZiNaTiOnZ No stores near me have the $79.99 bundles in stock otherwise I would buy it. I didn't really have any interest in the Move 'till about a week and a half ago. I would have bought the Amazon LD on Move stuff, but I was at work at the time so I missed it.

basic bundles can be found online for $80 or less just gotta look.
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index...uctId=11234855

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index...uctId=12667792

keep your eye on bb for move bundles they had alot of great bundle deals during the holidays and the earlier part of this year.

Originally Posted by Vinny I think the dipping sales of the Wii are good indication that people are done with motion controlled gaming. If anything, Kinect is the next step...

I disagree with this assessment. First off the Kinect is motion controlled gaming too. I guess to be fair, I think if it wasn't for the voice processing, Kinect would be just as dead in the water as Move... well almost as dead in the water. I have seen some stuff on Kinect that I begrudgingly admit looks rather interesting long term

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TbZt98PqO4

Out of respect for the inflammatory thoughts in my head I'll stop here.

Originally Posted by metaphysicalstyles I found Move to be more frustrating than functional. Having to recalibrate the controller every 10-15 minutes is indescribably annoying.

What are you playing? Because aside from the fact that my playing area is really shallow and I'm really tall meaning I have to put my camera in really awkward places to get myself comfortable

, once I actually calibrate I haven't had any issues actually needing recalibration.

Originally Posted by Enuf basic bundles can be found online for $80 or less just gotta look. http://www.toysrus.com/product/index...uctId=11234855 http://www.toysrus.com/product/index...uctId=12667792

I did.

LBP2 bundle is out of stock and not sold in stores, and the Heroes Bundle is at no stores near me and after tax + $6 shipping, it kills the deal.

I do want Move, but like I said not for as much as it is now. If I could have got it for $80 with R3 or Goldeneye I would have if I had wanted it back when they first dropped.

Even with the current $25 deal on Move Controller, and $20 for the sharshooter, the other 2 parts even on a deal of $20 each, come to $85 when the bundles cost $80 with all that and a game.

I'll just wait for the next bundle drop. $85 for an accessory seems like way to much IMO.

Originally Posted by HaLLuZiNaTiOnZ LBP2 bundle is out of stock and not sold in stores, and the Heroes Bundle is at no stores near me and after tax + $6 shipping, it kills the deal.

I say wait.. if this really is a resurgence year then there are going to be sales/bundles and games actually worth bundling. LBP2 isn't going anywhere.

Originally Posted by HaLLuZiNaTiOnZ I did. LBP2 bundle is out of stock and not sold in stores, and the Heroes Bundle is at no stores near me and after tax + $6 shipping, it kills the deal. I do want Move, but like I said not for as much as it is now. If I could have got it for $80 with R3 or Goldeneye I would have if I had wanted it back when they first dropped. Even with the current $25 deal on Move Controller, and $20 for the sharshooter, the other 2 parts even on a deal of $20 each, come to $85 when the bundles cost $80 with all that and a game. I'll just wait for the next bundle drop. $85 for an accessory seems like way to much IMO.

only other real cheapy option would be to check CL, Ebay or other CAG's that haven't been satisfied w/move $50ish should get it.
The Sport champion bundles should be phase out since the 2nd game is incoming & we're only 1 month away from E3 anyways so the wait should be that long.

edit:sam's club has a bundle on sale for less than $80
http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/pr...0066&navAction=

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/pr...Id=prod5390068

Originally Posted by Vinny I think the dipping sales of the Wii are good indication that people are done with motion controlled gaming. If anything, Kinect is the next step... This re-launch is just going to be a waste of time and money for Sony. They should focus on more integrated gameplay between the Vita and PS3.

There is a difference between the death of a fad and a genre finding its saturation point.

Designer jeans became a craze unto insanity in the late 70s. They've made tons of money ever since be nothing like the fever pitch of that era. A good new Mortal Kombat title can make good money but is unlikely to match the fervor of when the SNES and Genesis versions came out, marking when the launch of a big game title was comparable to a major movie's opening weekend.

The big problem with the Wii is that it depended too much on new hardware sales because the software attach rate was lousy, especially for those people who didn't care about the big Nintendo franchises like Mario platformers. These people were content with Wii Play and a few other items, with no more purchases ever. They got a worthwhile novelty for their money but didn't produce the ongoing revenue stream Nintendo expected. When the hardware sales peaked it meant a huge hit on revenue.

But that doesn't mean the death of motion controls. It just means a hard lesson in expecting them to be the primary basis of a platform. It is a subset, just as connection between a set top and a mobile platform is a market of limited value. Sony will do both to the exclusion of neither and neither overwhelming the core products.

I personally have no use for sports games. I cannot image why I'd pretend to play a game on a computer that I wouldn't play for real. And if I liked to play for real, why would I bother with the fake version when I can have so much more experience from the real thing even if I'm bad at it.

That said, the platform company that ignored the market for sports games would have to be run by monumentally stupid people. Invest to support people looking to spend money on a particular thing in proportion to their numbers.

seeing epobirs signature reminds me of last weekend when I was fantasizing about how to make Boktai work again. Screw putting the game in reality, I'm all about putting reality in my game.

Originally Posted by Wolfkin seeing epobirs signature reminds me of last weekend when I was fantasizing about how to make Boktai work again. Screw putting the game in reality, I'm all about putting reality in my game.

Now that all of the latest handhelds and phones have cameras it should be pretty easy to do.

Consider the pedometer function in the 3DS. You can have a game that not only requires you to get outdoors but also to move around. Special bonus for playing in traffic!

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Originally Posted by Wolfkin What are you playing? Because aside from the fact that my playing area is really shallow and I'm really tall meaning I have to put my camera in really awkward places to get myself comfortable , once I actually calibrate I haven't had any issues actually needing recalibration.

I'm about 6-8 feet away from my TV. Camera mounted atop the TV, and I either sit or stand (depending on the game). The only thing I can figure is that the glass top coffee table in my living room is causing a reflection that the camera is picking up. I can play for approximately five minutes before needing to recalibrate. I even bought a new camera, and tried a second Move controller... but experienced the same results. When it is calibrated, it still doesn't feel like a true 1:1 experience.