Originally Posted by tcrash247 No, his point is that Blizzard needs to stop dumbing down their games for retards that don't understand choices.

Exactly. Reading those myths made a lot of sense to me, even though I hadn't touched the game since 2003. I remade a level 95 sorc because I ed up one point in the skill tree. I don't know if they ever made exp gain easier after I left, but back then anything 90+ could take weeks of grinding (and don't forget a death meant exp loss). I remember having small vit or MF charms they're talking about and the only other large charms you'd carry was +1 lightning skills or something like that.

The real draw of D2 for me was pre-planning a build and executing it by gathering the gear and running hell cows as a sort of benchmark. Then you'd go out PKing for the lulz and meet some really intense theorycrafters. God damn I miss games like that and it's probably why I keep going back to WoW every expansion.

Originally Posted by Jodou I remade a level 95 sorc because I ed up one point in the skill tree.

Do you honestly think that's fun? Just curious.

Originally Posted by crystalklear64 Certainly true. Except I think its fair if the company is going to continue to use the brand name, its their responsibility to make it live up to the name. Otherwise call it something else and stop using it as an excuse to ripoff old assets.

It's fair. You're old enough to do research, and clearly you have. In fact, you are dead positive this game isn't Diablo II. Everything on the Diablo III site has information that any Diablo fan could interpret as "hey they're doing things differently." It's using the brand name because it wants the marketing, and you'd be nuts to think the majority of Diablo fans aren't excited for Tuesday. Change the name because it isn't hardcore enough? They'd point you right out the door of the conference room.

All of your argument have been correct so far because they prove what's obvious and irrelevant to the game being released on Tuesday. I could write you a novel on what Diablo III isn't. I could take the greatest games ever made and give you a compelling argument on what those developers could have added. I could say Starcraft 2 is a shitty Starcraft game, but that would say nothing of its own qualities.

I brought up some actual concerns I had for D3 after playing the beta. Instead we're talking about how the "faults" of D3 are how it's not being the game it was never trying to be.

So again, what the hell is the point of these rants beyond being as pissed as I am when I don't get what I want? And what's with posting arguments from a guy that refers to casuals as "some $$$$$$s?" Diablo 2 elitists, never thought I'd see this day.

Originally Posted by TLPRIME Do you honestly think that's fun? Just curious.

Remaking characters 3 times was what kept me playing Diablo 2 for 3+ years. I had 3 accounts with all the character slots full and each character being 80+ except for my couple mules. Rolling a new character and digging for loot is Diablo to me. They completely took one of those options out, and for what? So people don't have to use their brains? And if their argument really is "well everyone just stacked vitality" then change numbers and make the other stats more enticing or something. Instead they said "well it, lets not work on that, let's just throw it out the ing window and make everyone identical."

I also think that you guys defending it don't really get where we're coming from. Hardcore Diablo players have been looking forward to this game for a LONG time, and now that we're finally getting it, we're getting a halfassed stripped down version of Diablo. I'm not saying it's going to suck, but it could be leaps and bounds better.

Now, I'm buying Diablo 3 and I'm sure I'm going to play the shit out of it, but what I'm worried about is if it will keep me interested and whether I'll still be playing it in 6 months. I hope so, but I don't see it happening.

Sorry no magic here. You have these comments, the game is server side not client to stop hacks and dupes, lans don't need to be removed. So a lan as in a closed network, would need all the information client side to produce a lan game. Again the game would need internet access anyways. They in fact are mutually exclusive. Never once did I say lan / offline items would magically appear online. And they are obviously doing it for good reasons.

As for blizzards AH cut, how about money to support servers for the game.

I'm not saying the game is perfect but some of these arguments rediculous

Such as a challenge aspect, you aren't going to clear inferno without dying. Hardcore mode anyone? Sounds like the biggest challenge blizzard has ever offered.

As for creating accounts worth of characters? Let's be honest it took less than a day to hit 90. There was no challenge in that.

Double post bleh

Originally Posted by strikeratt I'm not saying the game is perfect but some of these arguments rediculous

The only thing ridiculous in here is the way you spell ridiculous. And how did Blizzard run the servers for Diablo 2? Oh yeah, from people that purchased the game. Don't act like Blizzard is taking a cut to pay for servers, they're taking a cut because they're ing Blizzard and they'll take money any way they can get it.

Haha ya and look at the game now online, full of hacks, dupes, and bots. I'd surely understand an optional system to perhaps knock that out. Maybe I'll go play all the other really popular games with a huge player base and auction my stuff for real money there. Oh wait. Now before you jump on that too, yes I understand there's a handful of games that use a similar system. I also understand they obviously will make a profit. How about this then, don't add it at all, I would hate any possible way that a game company would let me earn any money back. Also to think blizzard won't use profits from the system to reinvest the money back into itself then that is just a backwards thought process.

Also if you need to have that small victory of a spelling error, made at work on my phone, that's just sad.

Originally Posted by tcrash247 Remaking characters 3 times was what kept me playing Diablo 2 for 3+ years. I had 3 accounts with all the character slots full and each character being 80+ except for my couple mules. Rolling a new character and digging for loot is Diablo to me. They completely took one of those options out, and for what? So people don't have to use their brains?

But it had nothing to do with using his brain, He made a mistake where the only remedy was starting a lvl 95 character completely over. That's not hardcore imo. Just tedium.

Alright, this thread has gotten super lame.

Here is a picture of the D3 Character Profile:


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That looks pretty awesome.

Originally Posted by strikeratt Sorry no magic here. You have these comments, the game is server side not client to stop hacks and dupes, lans don't need to be removed. So a lan as in a closed network, would need all the information client side to produce a lan game. Again the game would need internet access anyways. They in fact are mutually exclusive. Never once did I say lan / offline items would magically appear online. And they are obviously doing it for good reasons. As for blizzards AH cut, how about money to support servers for the game.

What? You don't need internet access to run a LAN game. Thats why its a LAN game. Its local network, not an outside one. You know like, your home network?

man, I'm so torn between wizard and barb. I think I need to give in and roll a barb this time since I never did the whole CCB thing back in the day. They look like too much fun.

Originally Posted by crystalklear64 What? You don't need internet access to run a LAN game. Thats why its a LAN game. Its local network, not an outside one. You know like, your home network?

I understand that, originally, at least so it sounded, that they could implement lans, as in not remove the option, and have the system to prevent dupes and hacks, which is a server side system. which would be impossible.

I am pumped about the tracking pages

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Figured Friday was a good day to reformat for me even though it's not a big deal. Allowed me to do some spring cleaning on my files organization and update a bunch of shit. Also fixed my 80% fragmentation on my SSD, not that it really matters a whole lot as the speed difference is pretty negligible despite that. However taking the time to organize everything was well worth it as lately I've been throwing files all over the place.

Mothers day, then two work days before I get a few days off since I had about 4 weeks of vacation available to me. Needed a stress reliever from work anyways, so it should do me some good. Hopefully these next couple of days I can avoid spoilers and keep my mind off of Diablo. All I need to do now is plan meals for the remainder of the week so I don't putz around doing stupid shit. Should probably stock up on some snacks as well since going to the store on a gaming binge is too troublesome.

I am ready


And for me, I'll be starting with a Wizard. Take her straight to Inferno difficulty and hopefully if all goes well, get utterly destroyed. I'll have one dedicated leveling partner with me and a few others who probably won't be able to keep up initially, but should be okay for a day or two.




Also, on an unrelated note just so people know if they haven't figured it out yet since they changed skills to "categorical" and everything. There are arrows on the skill calculator and when choosing skills that allows you to choose any skill that you have unlocked and aren't stuck using their default choices. Had a friend who apparently didn't know, so I figure I'd spread the information if you didn't know this already as a lot of calc builds I've seen are from their default windows.

Lol, that's the kind of stuff I'd do for an MMO release. For D3, I'm not even taking off time or doing the midnight release thing.

Originally Posted by Jodou Lol, that's the kind of stuff I'd do for an MMO release. For D3, I'm not even taking off time or doing the midnight release thing.

I rarely take time off of work (Else I wouldn't have 4 weeks available to me), however lately it's been stressing me out so since I needed to get away for a bit (Soo many big projects back to back and at the same time for the last two months straight, one of which includes a city project), Diablo 3 release fell at a good time. I'm not really in a hardcore guild/clan like you are, so I don't have to keep up with people.

I don't think I've purposely ever taken time off for a game before. SWTOR happened to release the week of my vacation I planned out 6 months prior and I took a couple extra days for early access for the hell of it. That's about the only other time I've done something remotely similar. Though I want to say I had another release that happened to fall on the same week as a vacation in the past, but I can't remember for the life of me what the game was.

I took off Tuesday so I could have a big block of uninterrupted time with the game. I'll pick my CE up at midnight but then just go to bed and wake up early Tuesday to start playing. I'd probably stay up Monday night and play through the night but since I'm on the east coast, waiting 3 hours twiddling my thumbs with my game all ready to go wasn't fun for Cataclysm so I'll pass on that for Diablo.

I'm planning on rolling a Witch Doctor as my main since the Necromancer was my favorite Diablo 2 class. A Demon Hunter will probably be the second class I roll. Out of all the classes, the Monk will be the last I do, I didn't find him all that interesting in the beta. He's like a hybrid Assassin/Paladin from Diablo 2, but not a very fun one. Maybe he's better at higher levels, I dunno.

Only time I took off of work for a game was when Rage came out last year. Boy, what a mistake that was. I took three days off. After an hour of playing the game, I spent the next 71 hours doing pretty much nothing.

Now that I do freelance shit, I get to play D3 whenever the hell I want. Definitely looking forward to blasting straight through to Inferno. Still not sure if I'm going to start with a WD or a DH.

Also, this:
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"@Cwatz using programs that alter graphics is against TOS and can get you banned."

Ugh. Guess we cant use DarkD3.