Grab Tales Of Vesperia and Lost Odyssey. You'll have the two best JRPGs on the 360, and they are quite different, so you'll have two, awesome, unique experiences!

Originally Posted by zaku77 grab tales of vesperia and lost odyssey. You'll have the two best jrpgs on the 360, and they are quite different, so you'll have two, awesome, unique experiences!

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I liked Blue Dragon and Infinite Undiscovery as well.

I can vouch for Blue Dragon too. It's a little bit simple, but it's a nice standard RPG. Though Versperia is still number 1 for 360 (IMHO).

For ps3 there's Tales of Graces F, which came out this past March. The battle system is slightly unorthodox, or just different than most other Tales games, but the game is a solid jrpg imo.

Originally Posted by AugustAPC I'm just going to go the "you're an idiot" route on this one. "Chibi-themed", really? Is that what we're using to try to justify oversexualizing young toddlers? But seriously, you're an idiot. Like, really, a in' dipshit. Sorry to be explicit, but I'm just being real. Look how defensive you're being over something as stupid as this game "mechanic". First off, my "prudish desire" isn't to "force" anything. It's simply a preference not to have to molest 6 year-olds in my strategy games. Also, I never assumed anything. I know there's idiots out there (you're living proof) that will defend anything Japan ejaculates onto the figurative face of America, regardless of how ridiculous it is. And before you go crying about how I shouldn't be in this thread and if I don't like Japanese games, not to play them. I own nearly all of NISA's console based RPGs, including their collector's editions. I play them because I enjoy a good story and strategy. Hell, I even love nice set of tits to ogle while I'm playing, but those set of tits need to be ripened, and not have an entire game mechanic based on them. So yes, you and your creepy and overly-defensive desire to justify this shit stain of a mini-game. Also, either dumb as shit or scared to actually address the real issue. Suggestive drawings are fine, just not of little girls. This isn't a matter of sex versus violence in video games, it's just a matter of disgusting, pedophilic content. I actually believe you're aware of this and are just trying to avoid it so you don't have to admit how much of a creeper it makes you to actually support this.

Exactly.

The false equivalency in here is astonishing. I bet you guys fall for that shit Rick Santorum was doing as well when he was saying "Well, if you let people get married, it's the same as ing dogs!"

No, it isn't. Oversexualizing a 5 year old and violence in games aren't the same thing. Sex scenes with adults and the shit you guys are defending aren't the same things. You can argue however you want, but it doesn't change the fact that this has now turned into the "Spot a pedo!" thread.

Originally Posted by elessar123 I find naked babies on TV in bad taste, and kid pageant shows. I don't find obviously fake drawings offensive, because I can tell the difference. Which is why I wonder why you people get so riled up about it. I find rape in movies disturbing, yet it's ok. I find it weird that underage girls can pose nude, as long as it's on the silver screen. Guess what, people are offended by different things.

Originally Posted by elessar123 An argument I can get behind. I think people who like gratuitous violence are weird too. I'm not saying to outlaw it; I'm just saying (for the third time), people are offended by different things. Because it's fake, it doesn't bother me much. When it's real, it disturbs me. If you can't understand that, fine. But saying something something is fake isn't a valid argument is quite stupid, imo. I have more of a problem with intoxicated manslaughter, but I bet they'd get off easier than people with "lolicon", and most people in this thread probably think the same way. That's what western society says. But sorry, but that doesn't make ANY sense to me.

Movies aren't real. So why would a rape scene bug you in a movie, which isn't real?

The following rpgs are some of the good ones on the PS3:

Valkyria Chronicles
Tales of Grace f
Disgaea 3 & 4
Folklore
Eternal Sonata (One of my all-time favorite off-line co-ops)
Resonance of Fate
Star Ocean the Last Hope
Final Fantasy XIII-2

Yeah, I'm one of the few that enjoyed Star Ocean Last Hope International (never played the xbox version) It was just great!

Originally Posted by KtMack23 Yes. Every other region gets a full fledged limited edition and we get a flimsy art book.

Don't see much of a problem there to be honest. We get a free artbook and exterior box for purchasing the standard edition's first run. A preorder isn't even required.

It may not be a full fledged limited edition, but it's damn good none the less.

Originally Posted by AugustAPC I'm just going to go the "you're an idiot" route on this one. "Chibi-themed", really? Is that what we're using to try to justify oversexualizing young toddlers? But seriously, you're an idiot. Like, really, a in' dipshit. Sorry to be explicit, but I'm just being real. Look how defensive you're being over something as stupid as this game "mechanic". First off, my "prudish desire" isn't to "force" anything. It's simply a preference not to have to molest 6 year-olds in my strategy games. Also, I never assumed anything. I know there's idiots out there (you're living proof) that will defend anything Japan ejaculates onto the figurative face of America, regardless of how ridiculous it is. And before you go crying about how I shouldn't be in this thread and if I don't like Japanese games, not to play them. I own nearly all of NISA's console based RPGs, including their collector's editions. I play them because I enjoy a good story and strategy. Hell, I even love nice set of tits to ogle while I'm playing, but those set of tits need to be ripened, and not have an entire game mechanic based on them. So yes, you and your creepy and overly-defensive desire to justify this shit stain of a mini-game.

I have zero interest in this game, because it doesn't look particularly good. I agree it looks stupid and pointless, but that's no reason to demean those who might enjoy such things. Who is it harming? These are drawings, not real people.

Japan has one of the the lowest rates of sex crimes in the world. Who do these drawings hurt in real-world terms? Who cares if they are supposed to be 5-year-olds (which they are not)?

All you're trying to do is force your deranged and entitled sense of morality onto other people's personal interests.

People like you are what's wrong with this world. you.

Bonus tip for the racist propagandists: Otaku culture isn't Japanese culture. Tokyo is not Japan.

Bonus tip #2: Sexualized shota characters are nearly as common as loli characters. But a big deal is never made about that because it is female yaoi fangirls who enjoy them. So, it isn't useful in your effort to demonize Japanese men. Racism and misandry. Despicable.

Originally Posted by RoninChaos Movies aren't real. So why would a rape scene bug you in a movie, which isn't real?

They're real people, so it bothers me, like real naked underage people in media bothers me (i.e. naked babies in commercials). There wasn't a read in between the lines.

Thanks for the list - ordered Macross Ace Frontier! Hopefully it's similar to Robotech: Battlecry in terms of fun. Yeah, I know...Harmony Gold blah, blah, blah.

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I almost recommend Eternal Sonata.

Can those who won't drop the "loli" issue please argue somewhere else?

Originally Posted by RabbitSuit Don't see much of a problem there to be honest. We get a free artbook and exterior box for purchasing the standard edition's first run. A preorder isn't even required. It may not be a full fledged limited edition, but it's damn good none the less.

Like I said, I'd buy it with no bonuses, I just wish we had a chance to get really nice RPG collectors editions here in the U.S. And sorry about saying the wrong game. They all start blending together around 1 am lol

Originally Posted by storino03 Yeah, I'm one of the few that enjoyed Star Ocean Last Hope International (never played the xbox version) It was just great!

I would never recommend the xbox version to anyone unless it's the only console they own. After the game is beat there is an endgame dungeon on disc 2 but your ship is still on disc 3 -.-''

Originally Posted by SeraphiMichael Can those who won't drop the "loli" issue please argue somewhere else?

It never should've started in the first place. This is a forum for video game deals, not trolls with agendas.

Back on topic, uhh...

The Atelier games are really underappreciated. Rorona has some issues, but Totori fixes pretty much all of them. I've not played it, but I can only guess Meruru carries on from there. Good series.

Originally Posted by SolidSnake86 Thanks for the list - ordered Macross Ace Frontier! Hopefully it's similar to Robotech: Battlecry in terms of fun. Yeah, I know...Harmony Gold blah, blah, blah.

Macross Ace Frontier was FUN FUN on the PSP.

I've just recently picked up Gundam Extreme....holy blue hell that game can be hard but fun

The Atelier PS3 trilogy is pretty good for a budget series. It's like a turn based Rune Factory in my opinion.

I'd like some opinions on Gungnir (as we approach its release date) if anybody's got them. I've read some so-so reviews on the game, and am questioning whether or not I want to spend $30. Is it safe to assume that since it's an Atlus game, and for the PSP no less, that there's very little chance of it ever dropping in price?

I just wish Grand Knights History would have been released. I was much less on the fence about that game than I am this one.