Finally, this makes my day. Winner winner chicken dinner?

I thought most of the outrage of the BF4 beta was that it was already announced and BF3 just came out a year ago.

I don't know really see why people are that upset. I assumed, which has now been confirmed, the game won't be coming out until Q4 2013.

Thanks for the shoutout of our headsets Shipwreck! I look forward to reading the review.

I don't think Destructoid's problems were that they wanted it to be different, but wanted features that were obviously left out. He seemed to think that it just felt like a barebones, "what we have to put in" game.
Things left out:

Unable to change music track that is currently playing.
No create-a-skater
No create-a-park
Absolutely no splitscreen or local multiplayer. (I played a lot of Tony Hawk splitscreen with friends.)
No movelist while playing.

All these little things added up for him. I personally won't be buying it. However, I would have loved it to be good. I think I will go dust off THPS2 or 3.

Originally Posted by Dark Rider I don't think Destructoid's problems were that they wanted it to be different, but wanted features that were obviously left out. He seemed to think that it just felt like a barebones, "what we have to put in" game. Things left out: Unable to change music track that is currently playing. No create-a-skater No create-a-park Absolutely no splitscreen or local multiplayer. (I played a lot of Tony Hawk splitscreen with friends.) No movelist while playing. All these little things added up for him. I personally won't be buying it. However, I would have loved it to be good. I think I will go dust off THPS2 or 3.

Those are very trivial complaints to me. The game is played in two-minute intervals, so it's not like looking at the menu outside of a session is too absurd. I haven't tried it but I'm assuming custom soundtracks are supported if you really need to skip a music track. I'm never going to play split screen Tony Hawk so that's not an issue for me. It makes much more sense to concentrate on online play in 2012. I just don't see those complaints adding up to a 4 out of 10. Especially since he didn't even mention new stuff that they added like Projectives.

The only problem with THPS is that half the soundtrack is there. And not having split-screen kinds sucks, but that shouldn't deter anyone from buying it. Especially if they've never played it before.

I'm going to have to side with MS with this one and will probably get flamed for it but whatever.

I think if you have been working on a game for so many months that your game should be ready to play. Years ago when you released a game It had to be 100% playable without any glitches of any sort, so why should companies get a free pass now? One patch should be plenty for all game developers.

The only exception should be MMOs or free to play large online games like Test Drive Unlimited or Forza Horizon, because those are constantly getting new online content.

While a part of me agrees with Wombat that offensive just for the point of offensive is a bad thing. Likewise, political correctness as well as the childish backlash against it is also annoying but there is no denying that the Tomb Raider kerfuffle has had an impact on the new God of War. Possibly to the huge detriment of the actual franchise.

In a recent interview, Santa Monica Studios has stated that they've reduced the violence against women in the upcoming God of War game because Kratos isn't like that, or some such nonsense. This is despite the first two games featuring beasts that were very much identifiable as females. Harpies, Medusas, Sirens, etc. Of course they are just monsters and as such, we don't care for them but going beyond that, Ascension is telling the story where Kratos breaks free from the influence of Ares, right?

And why? Because, as his tool of violence, Kratos was a general that killed indiscriminately. His story admitted that, even once the warriors were done, women and children would fall beneath his blade. This was also fairly common war practice in the greek myths. After all, without the blind rage guiding his blades, how could he have been tricked into killing his wife and child? A very pivotal moment in the characters development, and a crime so severe the Gods, as punishment, bound him in the ashes of his slain family.

But more than that, isn't this entire notion extremely sexist? "Look, this furry dude has a penis so it's 100% acceptable to slice off his clawed arm and lodge it up his nassal cavity until the dismembered hand holds the glistening brain aloft as a grisly trophy. Chances are VERY good he deserved it. This Medusa though? Catch her in a giant cup and left her go in the backyard." I'm pretty sure, as Kratos guided the massive murderous hordes of Sparta against Athens, every soldier took a few seconds to do a penis check. Because, naturally, when you are portraying a horrible, guiltless, murderous, slaughtering machine like Kratos, there are LINES you just don't cross...

Originally Posted by zerocool397 I thought most of the outrage of the BF4 beta was that it was already announced and BF3 just came out a year ago. I don't know really see why people are that upset. I assumed, which has now been confirmed, the game won't be coming out until Q4 2013.

The outrage was because it was EA. Not Nintendo, Activision, THQ, Sony, Microsoft, Capcom... nope, it was EA. Thus it is the most evil thing ever.

Originally Posted by Monsta Mack I'm going to have to side with MS with this one and will probably get flamed for it but whatever. I think if you have been working on a game for so many months that your game should be ready to play. Years ago when you released a game It had to be 100% playable without any glitches of any sort, so why should companies get a free pass now? One patch should be plenty for all game developers. The only exception should be MMOs or free to play large online games like Test Drive Unlimited or Forza Horizon, because those are constantly getting new online content.

Ya, but it seems like very few devs can accomplish this today and placing a huge pay wall is the double edge sword for smaller indie devs.

Has or is MS going to pull Fez off XBLA because I see little incentive for him to fix the problem. Most gamers don't read gaming media, so they won't hear about the bug and if it is only happening to a small percentage. Not saying it is right, but I can see why he is doing what he is doing.

Originally Posted by Monsta Mack I'm going to have to side with MS with this one and will probably get flamed for it but whatever. I think if you have been working on a game for so many months that your game should be ready to play. Years ago when you released a game It had to be 100% playable without any glitches of any sort, so why should companies get a free pass now? One patch should be plenty for all game developers. The only exception should be MMOs or free to play large online games like Test Drive Unlimited or Forza Horizon, because those are constantly getting new online content.

Also, this is a false concept. There is a very long list of games that simply ship with bugs because they weren't caught in testing. Sometimes we call these sploits, sometimes they're called glitches. There was no magical era where games were 100% playable without any glitches. Moreover, games have become considerably more advanced. As such, a significantly larger amount of bughunting now occurs and nothing can truly be considered 100% glitch free. After all, Skyrim on PS3 introduced a glitch where going in the water, THE WATER, hard crashes the game. Not to mention your 360 has had about 9 motherboard revisions alone which, can make drastically different glitches for different systems. As an example, PS3's launch units occassionally have hardware which causes unforseen issues, namely the micro PS2 in the hardware.

Besides, the bandwidth to patch software, isn't that why you pay for Xbox Live Gold? The certification? Well, it can't be that good considering they constantly greenlight patches which dramatically break games.

first off Shipwreck is entitled to his opinion and I agree with Shipwrecks criticism of the "critics"

But Tony Hawk PS HD is terrible. It's is so floaty and hard to control and weird UI issue (like the use of RB). I went back and played Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2X ; it is so much better and better control.

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Fun Fact: I once went into that American Girl store in order to get directions to Nintendo World. So it's almost like me and Wombat have kissed.

Regarding Phil Fish (Fez developer) "owing Microsoft". I think publishers pay developers a lump sum up front and initially retain all the revenues from sales (the developer gets nothing initially) until the number of sales crosses a threshold, after which both the publisher and developer share the royalties at whatever rate their contract stipulates. So if the game doesn't sell enough the developer may receive no royalties but will have been paid that initial lump sum. Fez may not have crossed that threshold so Phil may "owe" Microsoft in the sense that he's not seeing any new money come in until Microsoft gets paid enough from sales. He's probably annoyed that Microsoft wants XBox exclusivity and in doing so he's prevented from seeing any royalties because it didn't do as well as expected on XBox so he's hoping that Steam sales help him cross that publisher-owed threshold.

Disclaimer: Pure speculation. I don't know Phil Fish's situation, how well Fez did, nor do I work in the game industry. I just remember discussions of publisher-developer contractual relationships following the 38-studios debacle.

Originally Posted by usickenme first off Shipwreck is entitled to his opinion and I agree with Shipwrecks criticism of the "critics" But Tony Hawk PS HD is terrible. It's is so floaty and hard to control and weird UI issue (like the use of RB). I went back and played Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2X ; it is so much better and better control.

Honest question: What are you having problems controlling in Tony Hawk HD? I've seen that complaint come up, but haven't understood exactly what the issue is. I sincerely don't have any issues with controlling this game so I'm perplexed and would appreciate if someone could elaborate. I'll pop in THPS 2X this weekend to compare, but THPS HD feels nice to me.

Originally Posted by Kostka Fun Fact: I once went into that American Girl store in order to get directions to Nintendo World. So it's almost like me and Wombat have kissed.

You may need to see a Dr. unless you have had a cootie shot in the last 6 months.

Originally Posted by Wombat You may need to see a Dr. unless you have had a cootie shot in the last 6 months.

And cootie is code for AIDS

Originally Posted by Cheshire Wolf And cootie is code for AIDS

and "AIDS shot" is code for rainbow anal sex.

I'm guessing there's a lot of foot tapping in the bathroom stalls at the American Girl store.

I know you tested Skype for the TwitchTV thing, but have you tried Google Hangout?

Originally Posted by shipwreck Honest question: What are you having problems controlling in Tony Hawk HD? I've seen that complaint come up, but haven't understood exactly what the issue is. I sincerely don't have any issues with controlling this game so I'm perplexed and would appreciate if someone could elaborate. I'll pop in THPS 2X this weekend to compare, but THPS HD feels nice to me.

Here are the issues

1.) it appears the view is just pulled back slightly farther than I am used to. So judging landings are harder.
2.) I am convinced that "spinning" is slower. I just checked vs. THPS 2X. With the same stats, I can almost every time land a 540 over the main gap in Mullet Falls, in THPS HD, I couldn't- not even once.
3.) You hit a wall you go floating up in the sky.

I can "control" it but it feels different than I am used to. Then again, I still play 1,2 & 3 pretty regularly.

p.s. Holy crap that is a large car. Most parking spaces are 18'. You are going to have to find RV parking