Originally Posted by Strell Kinda like how gay rights is a topic of conversation at all.

I love it when a wall of text gets destroyed by a single sentence.

Not again with the mothering Syria.

It's ok to have a discussion about American issues without complaining about how Americans are ignorant of foreign affairs.

Originally Posted by KingBroly Not anymore apparently. Also, some idiots vandalized a Chick-fil-A in California saying "Tastes Like Hate." Way to take the moral high ground. The whole thing's really gotten out of hand, and will probably get a lot worse.

They didn't even do it right. They spelled all the words correctly!

Originally Posted by UncleBob KB - I'm just amazed at how big this one thing has blown up. CFA has always been a Christian-cult-like company. That hasn't changed. They've been giving money to the same pathetic causes for years. Nothing new there. But right now, *bamn*, here it is, front and center every hour on the 24 hour news cycle. In the wake of our terrible economy, ongoing wars overseas, the horrible atrocities happening in Syria and such - suddenly CFA is the big news story? The obvious answer is that it has the right mix of everything that's big right now. Most of the folks who are "pro-CFA" didn't really get on the whole bandwagon until big local, bad government started stepping in and saying "Woah - you can't do that!" On the surface, this is a great example of government abuse of power - which is huge with the right right now. And let's be honest - the anti-gay aspect of it is there for *some* of the pro-CFA folks... and it's another big button issue. On the other side, you've got the entire anti-gay debate going on - and CFA's actions alone have had this stirred up for some time - but the pro-CFA movement is feeding them. "Tank Man" would have meant nothing if no one paid attention. Then, you've got the whole "corporations spending money to influence policy" part of it. Now, reasonably, you and I both know Cathy isn't getting anywhere with the idea of jailing and exporting homosexuals and that the idea of legalizing same-sex marriage faces a lot more issues than one chicken franchise - but the simple *idea* of big corporations having the potential to influence policy (in a way that "we" don't agree with, of course) is another hot-button issue right now. Chick-fil-a is just a giant intersect of so many important issues right now that it's easy to see how it's getting out of hand. And I'm sure the timing of mere months before the November election is just pure coincidence.

Really?! Tell me how the actions in Syria are truly that of a Genocide. Are they really exterminating an ethnic groups like the Turks tried with the Armenians, or what Silvodan Milosevitch did in Bosnia-Herzgovina? If it is then we'll talk and only if both sides aren't actively TRYING to kill the other off.
As for Chik-Fil-A doesn't it ing creep you out just reading that article?! Jeez I wouldn't want to work with a business so up in my privacy. One can only guess how they'd treat a straight man who is a Transvestite compared to any Gay person.

It's ok for a business to be Christian. Just look at In-N-Out, putting their little bible verse shit on their packaging. I eat there gladly (The fact that their food is so damn good doesn't hurt either).

The difference is, In-N-Out doesn't donate money to hate groups.

So yeah, Chick-Fil-A.

i will always eat chik-fil-a. always.

Originally Posted by JasonTerminator It's ok for a business to be Christian. Just look at In-N-Out, putting their little bible verse shit on their packaging. I eat there gladly (The fact that their food is so damn good doesn't hurt either). The difference is, In-N-Out doesn't donate money to hate groups. So yeah, Chick-Fil-A.

In N Out is the best fast foot restaurant in the world.

Originally Posted by JasonTerminator The difference is, In-N-Out doesn't donate money to hate groups.

This is the crux of the matter. It will always be a red herring to say "you hate christian businesses!"

I don't. Few people do. But I do hate businesses that fund hate groups and try to get involved in the political process in ways that I find appalling.

EDIT: awwww, all this in-n-out talk. Well, at least I have Wawa. shrug.

Originally Posted by mykevermin This is the crux of the matter. It will always be a red herring to say "you hate christian businesses!" I don't. Few people do. But I do hate businesses that fund hate groups and try to get involved in the political process in ways that I find appalling. EDIT: awwww, all this in-n-out talk. Well, at least I have Wawa. shrug.

When I shop, the last thing I think about is what religion the business is. Give me good product, value, service and you can worship the devil for all I care. As long as it's not in my face, I'm fine with it. Cause you know, I'm religiously tolerant, which is more than I can say for some of the religious.

Anyway, in a more pressing debate:

Hoagiefest vs Double Double.

Sorry man, double double wins.

Bitches dont know bout my Whataburger Honey BBQ Chicken Strip Sandwich.

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qc6j0/

Originally Posted by confoosious When I shop, the last thing I think about is what religion the business is. Give me good product, value, service and you can worship the devil for all I care. As long as it's not in my face, I'm fine with it. Cause you know, I'm religiously tolerant, which is more than I can say for some of the religious.

You know, people always claim to hate the devil but he sure moves alot of product. I've never seen a Jesus beer.

When you find out a conservative Christian has been donating money to known hate groups, it kind of puts the idea of Christian charity in a whole new light. For those playing at home, giving money to a hopsital to treat the sick and infirm -that's class. Giving money to groups who see gays as a curse on the country, and would like nothing more than to get rid of them -not classy.

I saw this paragraph in an CNN article.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/03/opinio...html?hpt=hp_t3

Where else in the world would a) the president of a chicken restaurant chain feel it was within his remit to publicly endorse "the traditional family," b) liberal mayors totally overreact by trying to stop his business' expansion, c) a former presidential candidate declare an "appreciation day" for the restaurant, and d) hundreds of people actually show up to eat there in solidarity?

Implying this is a bad thing. Why not be okay with all of it? Why are we so sensitive? These are not terrible problems to have.

Why do we do anything? Why do we say anything? Who can say things? Are opinions the domain of anonymous Internet posters? I don't think so.

I would rather we have these controversies than to live under the tyrannical rule of political correctness as in the United Kingdom.

Originally Posted by camoor She is at a job, she needs to avoid getting into a political debate

But why? Let's all get into the political debate with our real names, our real job titles, our real lives. Let's mix it up and really let each other know what we think. Why live with this thinly veiled charade of civility, as if informing another person of your political views should even be considered uncivil.

Once we get it out of our systems, we'll be able to get back to work. What we need now more than ever is plain speaking.

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It's like you can't follow that a company just fired a guy for being an outspoken opinionated douche.

It's like you don't know how society works, and has always worked, and that if we were to just change a setting in a SocietyConfig.ini file, suddenly everyone would be an enlightened, open-minded individual and we would sail toward a utopia of unfettered philosophical discussion.

I'm in the mood for some chikin right now.

Originally Posted by Spokker But why? Let's all get into the political debate with our real names, our real job titles, our real lives. Let's mix it up and really let each other know what we think. Why live with this thinly veiled charade of civility, as if informing another person of your political views should even be considered uncivil. Once we get it out of our systems, we'll be able to get back to work. What we need now more than ever is plain speaking.

How about no. There's no such thing as "getting it out of your system." Politics and religion are topics that people can't just be like "oh, I see your point. Let's hug now and ride off on our little ponies!"

I know this might be hard for you to understand but not everybody wants to discuss politics. Some people just want to go to work, get their work done, go home.

I AGREE with the douchebag in the video from an issue standpoint and I still want to punch him in the face. Imagine what happens at work when people disagree on the topic.

Originally Posted by confoosious When I shop, the last thing I think about is what religion the business is. Give me good product, value, service and you can worship the devil for all I care. As long as it's not in my face, I'm fine with it. Cause you know, I'm religiously tolerant, which is more than I can say for some of the religious.

I don't ever care about "in your face" - it's the activism that does it for me. Some people might consider bible passages printed on sammich cartons to be "too preachy." I'm not one of them. What Chik-fil-a does with their money is more bothersome to me - that they are religious is not bothersome at all, only how they choose to act on it (hatefully and divisively). Sheesh, I can imagine that some people get bothered by seeing "kosher/parve" on food packages - even though, of course, it's pretty bloody important to make that designation.

As for religious places, this place has the BESSST hummus I've ever had in my ing life my a goddamned mile: http://www.holylandbrand.com/ I swear they mix some tzaziki sauce in there, because omfg..........and I hate that it's nowhere near me. In other news, of all the food trucks in midtown manhattan, the halal ones always smelled in' crazy good. The rest are more along the lines of "oh, it, I need something to eat."

Anyway, in a more pressing debate: Hoagiefest vs Double Double. Sorry man, double double wins.

I...I...*sigh*. I got nothin'. You win, I think (never had In-n-out, but my west coast friends swear by it).

Can we all agree, at least, that Jack in the Box is among the most repugnant, vile, disgusting, repulsive "food" ever created?

Originally Posted by Spokker But why? Let's all get into the political debate with our real names, our real job titles, our real lives. Let's mix it up and really let each other know what we think. Why live with this thinly veiled charade of civility, as if informing another person of your political views should even be considered uncivil. Once we get it out of our systems, we'll be able to get back to work. What we need now more than ever is plain speaking.

Because sometimes you get a sermon when all you wanted was a chicken sandwich.

I've got a life, the last thing I need at work is for my coworkers to feel that they can spout off about inane political bullshit (that's what the internet is for). When you're on the clock, know your role and do your damn job.