Originally Posted by 100xp as far as a game unfinished, honestly if the game was where it is next patch ppl would still find things to complain about. I still have my pet peeves about some of the things in D3 but I'm trying to focus on the positive.

It would've been an entirely different game, trust me. Nobody would have ever chest farmed and we'd all have been playing together to farm gear on act III. The final idiotic mechanic that needs to go is the NV buff, because it hampers where you can farm efficiently. Basically, they need to throw out every innovation they came up with and go back to D2.

They're almost there with this next patch.

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Originally Posted by Jodou It would've been an entirely different game, trust me. Nobody would have ever chest farmed and we'd all have been playing together to farm gear on act III. The final idiotic mechanic that needs to go is the NV buff, because it hampers where you can farm efficiently. Basically, they need to throw out every innovation they came up with and go back to D2. They're almost there with this next patch.

a bit extreme, but I can see where some of your suggestions hold merit.

the NV buff is just so ppl dont swap skills on the fly to gain an advantage vs. a situation. i don't think it's a big enough deal as the buff is a MF buff and nothing more. if you feel compelled to farm w/more efficiency (what happened to i before e) NV gives you guarenteed drop options. You can farm anywhere...I look for trash mobs when I have 5 stacks and a MF character because that's where most of my legendaries drop. if you want more efficient farming play a wiz and teleport past trash, some ppl find enjoyment in getting their farm in under a certain number of minutes...if that's how they want to play the game, hey now.

my biggest issue which is being addressed is build diversity and next patch seems that will happen. The new patch will certainly prolong the D3 experience for a lot of players...and eventually we'll all be geared enough to feel there is nothing left to do.

what will likely happen is, we'll all get geared and then get bored...then blizz will release PvP. Ppl will come back, get their fix and then get bored...then blizz will release more crafting plans, maybe new gems, or even change up abilities since there is no doubt the new ones will likely be bugged and/or ppl will find incredible ways to deliver insane dps unforeseen.

Originally Posted by 100xp as far as a game unfinished, honestly if the game was where it is next patch ppl would still find things to complain about. I still have my pet peeves about some of the things in D3 but I'm trying to focus on the positive.

if you didn't notice in this thread, Diablo III is just a huge whine-fest. People nitpick just about everything, and at both extremes for christ sake.

for example the loot drops.

There's one camp who complains that loot is too few and not like D2.
The there's the other group who complains drops are too loose, deflating the values of their items on AH.

Then difficulty.
Some say its too hard and too reliant on AH.
Then there's people who say its way too easy (and still getting easier). The game should take months, years even, not a matter of 2 weeks to beat inferno.

People just bitch way too much

Originally Posted by shosh People just bitch way too much

This seems to be true for any/all established franchise. I wonder if people not be this way or bitch less if the sequels were new IPs.

Not to be pedantic, but if they were new IPs, they wouldn't be sequels

Originally Posted by Ruahrc Not to be pedantic, but if they were new IPs, they wouldn't be sequels

That's my point.

.......and my axe.

you know...that's quite a bit of bleed damage, they ought to name it hemorrage.

I see ppl complaining upping the trash mob hps was too much of a monster buff even though they are lowering pack hps, coop monster hps, and even nerfing monster affixes. Once you get a legendary or two, it'll be gg act 1 > 4.

...gee, dat axe has +192% crit damage. Add to that an emerald, and all your gear? ppl could easily hit 400% - 500%. My guess, they will lower the crit damage values on items (not gems). Only allowing high numbers such as this on legendary items. Not a complaint, just a prediction. ppl will find a way to get around it...they always do.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6307742990#1


Barbarian preview is up. Wizard should be up sometime today. Rest tomorrow.

fingers crossed for 1 second cd on teleport.

Originally Posted by 100xp You can farm anywhere...I look for trash mobs when I have 5 stacks and a MF character because that's where most of my legendaries drop.

You can't farm anywhere because having as little NV downtime as possible is the key. Act III has the best chance for ilvl63 items with the largest pool of rares/elites to farm from. Once your stack is at 5, you want to kill as many as you can per run. The real issue is MF, which should have just been dropped from this game TBH.

Originally Posted by TLPRIME http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6307742990#1 Barbarian preview is up. Wizard should be up sometime today. Rest tomorrow.

Reading it now and it's hilarious how they completely ignore sidearm as a big reason why people use frenzy. Increasing the damage on bash is pointless when you consider frenzy is used to LL and keep mobile. Upping Cleave is pointless when you factor sidearm is far more versatile. Frenzy will always be king, no matter what they buff.

It's clear to me they don't even play their own game and are just playing the numbers game. Very unimpressive preview for this retired Barbarian. :\

wizard up

lol nerfs. eat a dick blizzard.

Originally Posted by crystalklear64 wizard up lol nerfs. eat a dick blizzard.

Lol damn, poor wizards. I think you guys and DHs have had it the worst since launch. Just re-roll Barb IMO. It's the best class in the game right now.

I don't know, the Wizard nerfs aren't that bad when compared with the buffs.

Originally Posted by Jodou Lol damn, poor wizards. I think you guys and DHs have had it the worst since launch. Just re-roll Barb IMO. It's the best class in the game right now.

I think their reasoning is valid, if WW coefficient proc stayed after the legendaries buff, you'd be near invinicble + proc legendary procs like mad. Hopefully as stated high CC players will not notice the difference much, mine is 41% currently having a sword that adds +5% to WW.

...again, aside from the change this also promotes build diversity. personally I enjoy both the blizz/arcane hyrda (i like the explosions) and CM/WW builds. It'll be nice to see some new builds that are viable and not focus on what used to be OP then got nerfed.

Rerolling a barb isnt really the answer as powerful as they are, if we could exchange all our CM/WW gear for WW/sprint barb gear that would be different...most of us cannot. I look fwd to the patch even if it forces me to change my playstyle to be as affective as I used to be. Nothing wrong with that tbh since there isn't any PvP yet, ranking, and/or rewards for playing outside of personal enjoyment.

Ultimately I just wanna roll as the Archon w/my wiz...but I'd have to probably triple my unbuffed DPS first. That's likely be w/a legendary wpn with high CD, a socket, and high DPS...along with 300 more int.

Originally Posted by 100xp I think their reasoning is valid, if WW coefficient proc stayed after the legendaries buff, you'd be near invinicble + proc legendary procs like mad. Hopefully as stated high CC players will not notice the difference much, mine is 41% currently having a sword that adds +5% to WW.

If that's true, once again they're making decisions based on GEAR and not skill. The more they wrestle control from the player to be less open-ended, the more they fail at making the game better.

Originally Posted by Jodou If that's true, once again they're making decisions based on GEAR and not skill. The more they wrestle control from the player to be less open-ended, the more they fail at making the game better.

i'm glad we can agree on a few things. I've seen some well geared players suck donk nuggets. (grins)

that said, monk preview is up.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6939559/

I hope when the WD preview comes out they address the biggest problem.

...angry chicken (rune).

I totally want to rock that rune effectively and not for lawls when helping friends level up their alts. I'm surprised they didnt add an achievement for killing X monsters w/the angry chicken rune.

Monk preview is pretty underwhelming.

"We don't want to change One With Everything because that would would upset monks who geared up for it" nerfs Wicked Wind Wizards. lol

Originally Posted by 100xp I hope when the WD preview comes out they address the biggest problem. ...angry chicken (rune). I totally want to rock that rune effectively and not for lawls when helping friends level up their alts. I'm surprised they didnt add an achievement for killing X monsters w/the angry chicken rune.

When PvP is put in, I fully intend to make an angry chicken based spec, buffs or not.