I heard a review of Melancholia on NPR that referred to the film as a "Hateful Masterpiece" which remains one of my favorite descriptors in general.

I think one thing that really bugs me a little with the Penny Arcade funding is their announcement of the Strip Search show. Given the track record of this type of 'show' in terms of what happens to the participants as well as the winners, I have a sense of dread for what's going to happen to a bunch of folks who're hoping to be the next Penny Arcade, which isn't really possible anymore. I think it could potentially damage whatever positive reputation Mike and Jerry have built up over the years with stuff like Child's Play when they're put in a sort of Donald Trump role dismissing folks after they fail whatever crazy challenges these shows seem to require.

That Brazilian movie is a sequel, you should watch the first one.

Originally Posted by Curufinwe Tracing photos they found on google must be really hard work, so it's not surprising they get cranky.

Careful man, comic tracers are especially sensitive about that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMwhZ...layer_embedded

Cheapy if you move your shoulder and it hurts do you think that is in your head or due to stress? If you can say, "it hurts when I do this" about your back it is mechanical pain. Type IV mechanoreceptors (pain receptors) typically respond to 3 types of stimuli - thermal (you will be on fire or being burned), mechanical (it hurts to do certain activities or can be constant if the mechanical stress is constant), or chemical (your tissue is inflamed and this is the first part of the healing process - think the low grade lingering pain after you sprain your ankle).

In the podcast you describe mechanical stimuli that start it - bending forward and that aggravate it - rising from sitting (usually worse if the person has been sitting slouched for a long period). You are describing mechanical back pain. I recommend the book Treat your own back by Robin McKenzie so that you can better understand how this works as it sounds like you could benefit greatly from it. I will gift you the money via paypal if you will buy it and read it. Here is a quiz for you Cheapy - Do you have pain when bending forward and/or backward fully in standing? Does your pain ease when lying down? Are there consistent positions that help or aggravate your pain? Is your pain worse in the morning when you tend to be a bit stiffer? See what you think, but if it acts mechanically then your pain is probably mechanical, not in your head.

Wombat's quip about "if only there was some sort of incredible device..." was hilarious. Well played.

Originally Posted by Curufinwe Tracing photos they found on google must be really hard work, so it's not surprising they get cranky.

That isn't an example of tracing. It isn't even close to tracing. It's an obvious example of using a photo as reference, which is completely acceptable.

Originally Posted by bickle That isn't an example of tracing. It isn't even close to tracing. It's an obvious example of using a photo as reference, which is completely acceptable.

That sounds like something a tracer would say.

Originally Posted by h3llbring3r That sounds like something a tracer would say.

Take a couple classes in art and get back to me.

Originally Posted by bickle Take a couple classes in art and get back to me.

Someone doesn't get the joke.

I've had quite a few actually, along with art history and appreciation.

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You guys pretty much summed up exactly the way I feel about Penny Arcade. Of course, now you've probably brought down their wrath upon you. With all of the great, actual video game related Kickstarter projects people could have backed instead, I find it pretty disappointing that this wasn't laughed off as a joke.

Great show as always everyone!

Originally Posted by CheapyD He wasn't making a joke.

i didnt know racial, religious, sexual insensitivity was ok if it is draped with the cloths of a joke. Its your site and you can do what you want but it looks a tad bit hypocritical. What the guy said was wrong, but some type of effort to warn him or let him plead his case to you would be more fair, if you wanted to ban him after, then that is fine. Chances are the poster was still an impressionable kid or teenager that was raised in a culture of ignorance and thus is just spouting out what he had been taught, he might have learned something if you reached out. Instead this will be another example, in his mind, how a jew punished him for speaking the truth.

My other point is you should operate on a single set of morals for the whole of the populous. If you deem the word "jap" offensive you cant use it no matter what, its even worse if you are married to a Japanese person and worse still if your child is Japanese, you aren't respecting your relationship and your own blood. If you feel you can say that word, then so should everyone else, you cant admonish others while giving yourself a pass. Thats how tyranny is born.


PS, can you buy me a lobster meal next time you guys are in LA for e3? i live like 15 minutes from the convention center. }:>)

As a "jap", I think davucini's got a point. I found it ironic you threw that out there in the same show as the jew coment banning.

Cheapy, you have back spasms. My last episode started from me reaching for a soda on the bottom shelf of the fridge. Get your doc to perscribe you Soma (good stuff and they work). My back problem is from inactivity. I never had back issues working in construction. It only happened after a year of staying home with the kids.

I have this juicer http://www.amazon.com/Breville-800JE...eywords=juicer and it is the shit. It will not help your shit though, because it removes most of the fiber from the fruits and veggies. I drink the juice with vitamins, fish oil, and a protein supplement and it keeps me satiated most of the day when I start the day this way. The only thing that sucks with juicing is cleaning up.

Got a 6 hour train journey later! This is gonna help out a bit

Originally Posted by KillingMachine You guys pretty much summed up exactly the way I feel about Penny Arcade. Of course, now you've probably brought down their wrath upon you. With all of the great, actual video game related Kickstarter projects people could have backed instead, I find it pretty disappointing that this wasn't laughed off as a joke.

I'll second this. Thanks for bringing it up. I really don't understand why people blindly follow Penny Arcade, their comic strips aren't even that great most of the time and they seem like a bunch of douchebags that need to get over themselves. It's really annoying when people whine which they seem to do a lot of. It was similar to all that rambling Dennis Dyack did with Too Human, you made a shitty game, get over it and move on.

for only $7,500 you can be an intern at Penny arcade for a day and clean their toilets! How awesome!

Originally Posted by Icedus I'm a Wombat man. I'll always be a Wombat man, now and forever. But I don't think it's fair to completely write off previous systems' games like that.

I have to agree with that. There are plenty of games from past consoles I would like to play, but I have no interest in going through all the trouble of getting an old system, a copy of the game and hooking up the whole thing up to the TV. If on the on the other hand I could play these games on a handheld (at a reasonable price) I'd be all over them. I'm sure there are many other gamers who have games from the past they would like to play if they where cheap and convenient.

Originally Posted by davucini i didnt know racial, religious, sexual insensitivity was ok if it is draped with the cloths of a joke. Its your site and you can do what you want but it looks a tad bit hypocritical. What the guy said was wrong, but some type of effort to warn him or let him plead his case to you would be more fair, if you wanted to ban him after, then that is fine. Chances are the poster was still an impressionable kid or teenager that was raised in a culture of ignorance and thus is just spouting out what he had been taught, he might have learned something if you reached out. Instead this will be another example, in his mind, how a jew punished him for speaking the truth. My other point is you should operate on a single set of morals for the whole of the populous. If you deem the word "jap" offensive you cant use it no matter what, its even worse if you are married to a Japanese person and worse still if your child is Japanese, you aren't respecting your relationship and your own blood. If you feel you can say that word, then so should everyone else, you cant admonish others while giving yourself a pass. Thats how tyranny is born. PS, can you buy me a lobster meal next time you guys are in LA for e3? i live like 15 minutes from the convention center. }:>)

Pretty sure he was just kidding when he said that. Also, the guy came out and verbally attacked Cheapy on his own site, why shouldn't he ban him? I know I would.

Originally Posted by Mixer236 Pretty sure he was just kidding when he said that. Also, the guy came out and verbally attacked Cheapy on his own site, why shouldn't he ban him? I know I would.

thank you for reading my post, not using any perspective and asking me questions i had already answered in my previous post.


Im not asking cheapy to use my set of morals, i am asking him to use just one set of his own.

I actually see nothing wrong with Cheapy's choice in films.
I tend to like independent 'sleeper' movies myself, because the director don't have a Hollywood studio with their foot on his neck.
Just because the movies Cheapy watch don't have huge marketing budgets doesn't mean they're bad movies.

I saw the alternative new planet discovered movie called "Another Earth"- kind of depressing in parts as well but not all bad. I would recommend it.