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Originally Posted by hal Everything? Well, ok. I figured you didn't like the story or something. To each his own.

The main game's ending lacked oomph (the DLCs did a better job wrapping things up) but overall the writing was hilariously entertaining. The gameplay itself scratched several itches, but honestly I found playing with friends a bit frustrating, especially with the lack of drop-in/drop-out support. To call something you find boring "awful" is lazy. There are tons of games that try to do part of what Borderlands does that are far worse technically and aesthetically.

Originally Posted by jatan11t I lasted a couple more hours than you. Got to the horrendous rc helicopter mission and called it quits.

That sequence reminded me of older games where there would just be these ridiculously difficult and seemingly pointless areas, but you grind through them to see it through. If Vice City was a tribute to 80s cops show themes, San Andreas did the same for the 90s gangsta rap films, but being in control of the action makes it freaking awesome. I had one of those moments playing San Andreas, where you're crossing the map in a jet and you can bail out thousands of feet above another part of the (game) world and parachute in to street level, with barely any loading. Awed me how far games had come to that point. Also, Jackson was good (although he's one of Hollywood's most overrated) but Woods stole the show.

Good discussion today! +rep

I'm playing through Saints Row: The Third at the moment after I was gifted it for a wedding present (better than 99% of other gifts we got). It's massively over the top, silly, crude, and most of all it's great fun. I'll do a proper Steam recommendation when I finish it but i'd definitely put it on your wish list if you like sandbox action games.

You don't need to have played SR1 or SR2 to be honest, storyline and characters are introduced V quickly.

Oh and grab all the DLC too. The genkibowl pack is silly fun.

Personal favourite moment? Probably the mission where you have to drive around with a tiger for company in order to learn "courage". Yes. That silly.

Originally Posted by Flowette Personal favourite moment? Probably the mission where you have to drive around with a tiger for company in order to learn "courage". Yes. That silly.

Ricky Bobby supports this mission.

Originally Posted by Flowette Good discussion today! +rep I'm playing through Saints Row: The Third at the moment after I was gifted it for a wedding present (better than 99% of other gifts we got). It's massively over the top, silly, crude, and most of all it's great fun. I'll do a proper Steam recommendation when I finish it but i'd definitely put it on your wish list if you like sandbox action games. You don't need to have played SR1 or SR2 to be honest, storyline and characters are introduced V quickly. Oh and grab all the DLC too. The genkibowl pack is silly fun. Personal favourite moment? Probably the mission where you have to drive around with a tiger for company in order to learn "courage". Yes. That silly.

My personal favorites:
Deckers.die, the final wrestling match, and anything with the "mayor".



However, I thought the DLC was a major disappointment. The gameplay was decent, but each DLC really lacked the over-the-top wackiness that the main campaign had... Problem with Clones was probably the closest in terms of wacky gameplay and story, but even though I only paid like $3 or 4 for the DLC, I thought I got ripped off :(

Originally Posted by DPsycho I loved GTA3. It was one of the first games I got when we finally got a PS2. Beat the game, got most of the side missions done, spent days just goofing around. Later borrowed Vice City from a friend. Couldn't stand it. For the four or five hours I played, Vercetti just kept complaining about everything. I much preferred the silent protagonist of 3, made it easier to immerse myself, I guess. I'd rather be playing it cool than whining about everything that happens and insulting everyone behind their backs. Never played SA or 4. No real desire.

My brother was the first to get a PS2. He didn't have any games so we just played THPS on it. The next day I saw him okaying GTA3 and my jaw dropped.

It's unfortunate that you didn't enjoy Vice City. I was was turned off at first, but Vercetti added a new whole new level to GTA's story-telling through hid dialogue and I think it was for the better.

My one complaint about SRTT (and that's not to say I didn't enjoy it because I did) was that, for the supposed head of the Saints, I was treated as a lackey for many of the missions. So-and-so says get this person, rescue that person, bodyguard this person --- shouldn't you guys be bodyguarding ME instead of me following you with a rifle as you run errands? I found it more fulfilling to just go around and cause mayhem than to have orders barked at me by someone who just joined the crew a day ago.

I guess that's just a limitation most games haven't figured out how to overcome: how to lead you along a plot and make you feel like it was your idea. But, again, I only bring this up because plots are being discussed. As a game; SRTT was still hella fun

Originally Posted by zillionandnine Ever since I installed my new video card on Friday I've been tempted to buy a bunch of new games just to celebrate the fact I can actually play moderately graphically-demanding games. I keep reminding myself I already have a bunch in my backlog... But that's just not the same. :P

I'm in the same boat. Picked up a Radeon HD 6870 last week and now I have the urge to buy a bunch of new games so I can set the graphics to ultra and look at the eye candy. I can't seem to stop playing SRTT long enough to buy anything though, so my wallet is thanking me!

Originally Posted by Syntax Error My one complaint about SRTT (and that's not to say I didn't enjoy it because I did) was that, for the supposed head of the Saints, I was treated as a lackey for many of the missions. So-and-so says get this person, rescue that person, bodyguard this person --- shouldn't you guys be bodyguarding ME instead of me following you with a rifle as you run errands? I found it more fulfilling to just go around and cause mayhem than to have orders barked at me by someone who just joined the crew a day ago. I guess that's just a limitation most games haven't figured out how to overcome: how to lead you along a plot and make you feel like it was your idea. But, again, I only bring this up because plots are being discussed. As a game; SRTT was still hella fun

Haha, I agree with you, but I think this is a problem in every open world game I've ever played...

Originally Posted by emwearz Me too! But I just finished it, I have to say, the main missions (Green BLIP on radar) are some of the most entertaining and engaging story missions I have seen in a sandbox game. I tend to stay away from the genre because I get bored, but Sleeping Dogs was like crack.

After finally finishing Sleeping Dogs it was a overall fun entertaining little game, However the main character was by far the creepiest and most borderline rapist I have ever seen or played in any game, just due to how the "romance" was treated in the game it seemed so out of character with the rest of his "character"

Early spoiler with the "romance" options.


How Wei treated Tiffany was so polarizing I have no idea why the devs thought it was a good idea. Wei basically meets her once, goes out on one date with her to sing karaoke. and then suddenly when he finds out she is dating other men, he literally bugs a payphone(again after ONE date he is tapping a payphone to help track this cheating harlot) follows her around(Also known as stalking her), and then gets out of his car to yell at her and her date(AKA trying to physically intimidate her) After a single date Wei goes into full on spousal abuse mode, and he's supposed be the good guy/hero of the game?

Not to mention that whole, "Not Ping" girl who again after only ONE date calls up Wei asking why he is "cheating" on her and how its ok because if he is because she still likes him.

According to this game if you go on a single date with someone your committed and considered in a long term relationship. There is some very creepy/clingy devs who worked on this game.

Originally Posted by Sophita After finally finishing Sleeping Dogs it was a overall fun entertaining little game, However the main character was by far the creepiest and most borderline rapist I have ever seen or played in any game, just due to how the "romance" was treated in the game it seemed so out of character with the rest of his "character"

Haha, I think a lot of the plot points in Sleeping Dogs is funny if you come at it through a lens of HK cinema rather than game narrative.

All the date stuff was silly and completely unnecessary, but I think they were there because every "hero" in a movie needs a brief romantic interest, even if the romance doesn't have any focus. I also think they just wanted to throw some big names in the voice work for marketing purposes. We have Emma Stone! Lucy Liu! ...for 30 minutes!

A lot of the cop side quests were pretty silly too. One review hit the nail on the head when it remarked that while Teng fusses over a serial killer of six people, we have probably killed dozens, if not hundreds, of thugs by then. (c.f. Nathan Drake ludonarrative dissonance)

The last mission was also completely ridiculous, and it seemed like it would have been more in line with a SRTT mission than SD, which takes itself sooo seriously, but it's also not too unusual for a HK style crime movie.

I don't think this game has the greatest plot or anything, but it did keep me entertained... as long as I was able to suspend my disbelief. I wish I didn't have to make that a condition for so many video game stories, but it seems par for the course for blockbuster movies as well. A thoughtful game that takes its story seriously without having to rely on suspension of disbelief or deus ex machina is incredibly rare these days...

Originally Posted by Syntax Error My one complaint about SRTT (and that's not to say I didn't enjoy it because I did) was that, for the supposed head of the Saints, I was treated as a lackey for many of the missions. So-and-so says get this person, rescue that person, bodyguard this person --- shouldn't you guys be bodyguarding ME instead of me following you with a rifle as you run errands? I found it more fulfilling to just go around and cause mayhem than to have orders barked at me by someone who just joined the crew a day ago. I guess that's just a limitation most games haven't figured out how to overcome: how to lead you along a plot and make you feel like it was your idea. But, again, I only bring this up because plots are being discussed. As a game; SRTT was still hella fun

My favorite thing to do in saints row the third was calling up Cheapy D and beating him with the huge purple dildo bat.

My twin boys are doing very well. Been spending a little time here and there on the new system whenrun home from the hospital to take care of the dogs.
Got my new system fixed. Had a really jacked Corsair Pro series PSU. Anyway, had Metro 2033 maxed on everything DX11 at 1080 res and it ran great.

Doubt Ill have much time for anything gaming for months, but I'll keep on the deals for when I do have a few moments. the kids are amazingly calm and great sleepers. The Intensive Care nurses are amazed, so that's saying something!

I finished SRTT a couple of weeks ago and it's great fun indeed. I also agree that the highlight is meeting the mayor... let's leave it at that. Too bad the mayor doesn't appear that often during the game.

SRTT is one of my favorite games at this point. I pretty much loved it.

Originally Posted by Flowette I'm playing through Saints Row: The Third at the moment after I was gifted it for a wedding present (better than 99% of other gifts we got). It's massively over the top, silly, crude, and most of all it's great fun. I'll do a proper Steam recommendation when I finish it but i'd definitely put it on your wish list if you like sandbox action games.

@Flowette: Glad to hear you like the game. I shall aim to always provide the rare (Top 1% FTW; blow up the other 99% with your tax rebates ), entertaining wedding gift.

Originally Posted by dfg The main game's ending lacked oomph (the DLCs did a better job wrapping things up) but overall the writing was hilariously entertaining. The gameplay itself scratched several itches, but honestly I found playing with friends a bit frustrating, especially with the lack of drop-in/drop-out support. To call something you find boring "awful" is lazy. There are tons of games that try to do part of what Borderlands does that are far worse technically and aesthetically.

Borderlands 1 had partial drop in/out. Public games allowed this as long as the host did not leave. Private games didn't have an auto-allow friends to join option, but your friends could drop in/out if you send invites to them, which takes 20 seconds max. Honestly, never had an issue with that aspect of the game as my friends would play for long stretches of time and set up time was negligible in comparison. BL1 had issues, but very little were with core gameplay mechanics; mostly pretty bad UI design, inconsistent pacing problems, or physics engine issues with specific locations/vehicle control.

Regarding GTA/Rockstar storylines, they do feel somewhat hollow with their simplified choice system, but in general I enjoyed most of the individual components if not the complete composition. Not going to read any of the SD posts because I already bought that and need to place it on the top of the backlog.

As a sidenote to all this GTA-alike discussion I should probably drop a positive word in for Red Dead: Redemption. I thought it was excellent, although whether we'll see a PC port of it I'm not sure (guess it would have happened by now).

If you have a console and a spare week or two it's well worth playing. Being made to ride everywhere on horseback does a good job of making the world feel "big" again

Guess what the Daily Deal is...

Hydrophobia... again!

Sworcery 50% off. Indie game which was available in $1 humble bundle. Yes, this is madness.

Originally Posted by Mooby Guess what the Daily Deal is... Hydrophobia... again!

Damn you Mooby!!! I kept hitting refresh for that deal knowing it was going to be really good, or really bad, either way post worthy, and you ninja me by mere seconds!!! and that's taking time to put it in a spoiler tag too.You Sir, are no Gentleman!

I'll jump ahead of everyone else right now then....tomorrow's deal is....wait for it.....Magicka!