Originally Posted by MSUHitman My problem is everyone is bitching about digital content, but yet almost the entire Borderlands 2 UE is digital content but that's ok.

You didn't technically reply to me, but because you posted right after me, I felt it necessary to point out that the above statement doesn't apply to me in the least. Take it as you will, but I didn't pre-order Borderlands 2 either (any edition), and in general consider digital-only pre-order/special edition bonuses not an incentive for purchase (this is mostly for cosmetic & arguably superfluous content like: golden guns, multiplayer unlocks, etc).

I had actually forgotten that the movies were included in a 2-disc bluray set, and that the soundtrack was ELEVEN DISCS.

With that said, my opinion has certainly shifted from when I last posted, and I now feel that there's a lot to be had in the set. My opinion on the subjective quality/value in what was chosen to BE included has not changed, but the item-per-dollar amount is a lot more well rounded than I had previously thought. I hope these hold their value, and are awesome, just to prove cynical bastards like me wrong.

Originally Posted by MSUHitman My problem is everyone is bitching about digital content, but yet almost the entire Borderlands 2 UE is digital content but that's ok. The bobblehead in that vs. the Ryu statue cancel each other out, both have artbooks, and the belt/box/certificate of authenticity cancel out the Steelbook.

You forgot to mention the loot chest itself. You're pretty much talking about the $100 Borderlands 2 edition, which is still more value. And the physical game is still worth $60 at the time of release, unlike the older games included in the SF set.

Anyone recall how many MGS HD Collection LE's were made for the EU? I'm curious to know how many of those were made compared to this collection.

Originally Posted by elessar123 You forgot to mention the loot chest itself. You're pretty much talking about the $100 Borderlands 2 edition, which is still more value. And the physical game is still worth $60 at the time of release, unlike the older games included in the SF set.

OK the $150 version gets you a gigantic chest that will sit in people's closets, a Steelbook, and some "exclusive" DLC; those are the only differences between that and the $100 version. I'll take my 11 disc soundtrack and 2-disc Blu-Ray set instead but to each their own.

I also see that exclusive DLC being available for pay down the road, probably a month later when they release the Mecromancer character. Almost every CE with "exclusive" digital game content releases it for pay to everyone else later.

I should be getting the artbook (and nothing else) delivered soon as one of my pieces is in there. I'll post pics if/when it shows up.

Originally Posted by NuclearPorkchop You didn't technically reply to me, but because you posted right after me, I felt it necessary to point out that the above statement doesn't apply to me in the least. Take it as you will, but I didn't pre-order Borderlands 2 either (any edition), and in general consider digital-only pre-order/special edition bonuses not an incentive for purchase (this is mostly for cosmetic & arguably superfluous content like: golden guns, multiplayer unlocks, etc). I had actually forgotten that the movies were included in a 2-disc bluray set, and that the soundtrack was ELEVEN DISCS. With that said, my opinion has certainly shifted from when I last posted, and I now feel that there's a lot to be had in the set. My opinion on the subjective quality/value in what was chosen to BE included has not changed, but the item-per-dollar amount is a lot more well rounded than I had previously thought. I hope these hold their value, and are awesome, just to prove cynical bastards like me wrong.

No I wasn't replying directly to you. I'm just amazed by how much people in general are crazy for the $150 version of Borderlands 2 while the SF collection is vastly superior IMO and people are just treating it like 2nd rate. Maybe if Borderlands 2 UE had at least a soundtrack my venom wouldn't be as great ...

Also if you're getting Borderlands 2 at all you should definately preorder it somewhere. You get an extra character on October 16 for free, otherwise it's $10. And you get all the extra guns/items for the preorder as well.

Originally Posted by MSUHitman No I wasn't replying directly to you. I'm just amazed by how much people in general are crazy for the $150 version of Borderlands 2 while the SF collection is vastly superior IMO and people are just treating it like 2nd rate. Maybe if Borderlands 2 UE had at least a soundtrack my venom wouldn't be as great ... Also if you're getting Borderlands 2 at all you should definately preorder it somewhere. You get an extra character on October 16 for free, otherwise it's $10. And you get all the extra guns/items for the preorder as well.

I'm still working my way (slowly) thru the DLC missions in the first game in couch Co-op, so I can wait until the inevitable GOTY/Complete edition rolls around. Plus, pre-order guns/items in a game with supposedly bajilions of them already is lame IMO. Chances are, they're either going to be completely OP, or worthless a few hours in. The Mechromancer class sounds exactly like the kind of thing that should just be included with all new copies of the game (my preferred incentive for buying new titles over used), but as a pre-order bonus it rubs me the wrong way. Plus, ya know, the backlog....wouldn't get to play it until waaaaay after release anyhow lol.

Back on topic...kinda...I think most people are skeptical/jaded on the subject of high-priced CE's because:

A.)Almost all collector's editions these days drop in price ridiculously fast, especially the high dollar ones, which lowers the perceived value of ALL collector's editions substantially. (exceptions being maybe Diablo 3 + The Witcher 2 Black Edition? Those are the two that I can think of off the top of my head that are still really high)

B.)This is a re-release of previously existing games that are ALL currently offered on current gen. platforms.

Like I said, I hope the physical stuff ends up being really cool. This batch of stuff doesn't really interest me, save for the soundtrack, so I decided to pass.

Unboxing video by someone else, you can see my comments on the YT page of his video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7jmX3QDRXg

Originally Posted by NuclearPorkchop I'm still working my way (slowly) thru the DLC missions in the first game in couch Co-op, so I can wait until the inevitable GOTY/Complete edition rolls around. Plus, pre-order guns/items in a game with supposedly bajilions of them already is lame IMO. Chances are, they're either going to be completely OP, or worthless a few hours in. The Mechromancer class sounds exactly like the kind of thing that should just be included with all new copies of the game (my preferred incentive for buying new titles over used), but as a pre-order bonus it rubs me the wrong way. Plus, ya know, the backlog....wouldn't get to play it until waaaaay after release anyhow lol. Back on topic...kinda...I think most people are skeptical/jaded on the subject of high-priced CE's because: A.)Almost all collector's editions these days drop in price ridiculously fast, especially the high dollar ones, which lowers the perceived value of ALL collector's editions substantially. (exceptions being maybe Diablo 3 + The Witcher 2 Black Edition? Those are the two that I can think of off the top of my head that are still really high) B.)This is a re-release of previously existing games that are ALL currently offered on current gen. platforms. Like I said, I hope the physical stuff ends up being really cool. This batch of stuff doesn't really interest me, save for the soundtrack, so I decided to pass.

The Mecromancer is available w/o preorder, but it costs $10 when it comes out in a month. It's Gearbox's way of rewarding its biggest fans/kinda sorta fight against used games w/o having an online pass. If you wait a year or so for the GotY edition, I'm sure the Mecromancer will be included. Which is worse: the Mecromancer being free for preorders/pay without, or 2K holding the All-Star game hostage for NBA 2K12/2K13 preorders or having to pay $5/10. This seems to be the way they're going to fight used game sales so they can say they aren't doing online passes.

The most valuable CE of this gen IMO (in no particular order) are:
World of Warcraft original release CE
Diablo 3 CE
ME 1 CE (Gamestop.com exclusive in US)
Tales of Vesperia CE (Game Crazy/Amazon.com exclusive in US)
Witcher 2 Dark Edition
Kingdoms of Amalur (had to be preordered direct from 38 Studios, only a couple thousand made.)

Some other individual items from CE are still valuable, even though the game itself isn't. The coin from the Oblivion CE still sells for $50 online. The anime/soundtrack set from the PS3 SF 4 CE is still really rare since it sold out.

We'll see where Borderlands 2 UE and SF 25th Anniversary end up. If you want to see the Borderlands UE unboxing, there's 2 or 3 videos in the international preorder thread now.

Originally Posted by MSUHitman The Mecromancer is available w/o preorder, but it costs $10 when it comes out in a month. It's Gearbox's way of rewarding its biggest fans/kinda sorta fight against used games w/o having an online pass. If you wait a year or so for the GotY edition, I'm sure the Mecromancer will be included. Which is worse: the Mecromancer being free for preorders/pay without, or 2K holding the All-Star game hostage for NBA 2K12/2K13 preorders or having to pay $5/10. This seems to be the way they're going to fight used game sales so they can say they aren't doing online passes. The most valuable CE of this gen IMO are: World of Warcraft original release CE Diablo 3 CE ME 1 CE (Gamestop.com exclusive in US) Tales of Vesperia CE (Game Crazy/Amazon.com exclusive in US) Witcher 2 Dark Edition Kingdoms of Amalur (had to be preordered direct from 38 Studios, only a couple thousand made.) Some other individual items from CE are still valuable, even though the game itself isn't. The coin from the Oblivion CE still sells for $50 online. The anime/soundtrack set from the PS3 SF 4 CE is still really rare since it sold out. We'll see where Borderlands 2 UE and SF 25th Anniversary end up. If you want to see the Borderlands UE unboxing, there's 2 or 3 videos in the international preorder thread now.

Your list is wrong.. no way Diablo III clocks in at the second most valuable CE of this generation.. you ommitted a few and kept others that shouldn't even be in the top 20.

I know you have a hard on for Street Fighter but let it go...... typically valuable and rare go hand in hand and the game is still widely available for preorder everywhere.

People are generally excited for Borderlands 2; not so much for the 29th iteration of a milked out franchise

Originally Posted by GBAstar Your list is wrong.. no way Diablo III clocks in at the second most valuable CE of this generation.. you ommitted a few and kept others that shouldn't even be in the top 20. I know you have a hard on for Street Fighter but let it go...... typically valuable and rare go hand in hand and the game is still widely available for preorder everywhere. People are generally excited for Borderlands 2; not so much for the 29th iteration of a milked out franchise

I wasn't listing them in any order, just what I could think of in terms of the PC ones, or the ones I own which are most of the console ones on that list (just not Witcher 2 Dark or KoA, and I had ME 1 CE before but sold it earlier this year.)

Most of the mass produced ones have dropped in price either b/c of supply or lack of interest. What super valuable ones did I forget out of curiosity's sake?

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Originally Posted by MSUHitman I wasn't listing them in any order, just what I could think of in terms of the PC ones, or the ones I own which are most of the console ones on that list (just not Witcher 2 Dark or KoA, and I had ME 1 CE before but sold it earlier this year.) Most of the mass produced ones have dropped in price either b/c of supply or lack of interest. What super valuable ones did I forget out of curiosity's sake?

In no particular order

Bioshock CE
Dead Space CE
Demon's Souls CE
Uncharted 2 Fortunate Hunter
Fallout 3 (Survival Edition)
Crysis Nano Edition

Originally Posted by MSUHitman Stuff and things etc etc

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But the problem there is that there was already a good way to combat used sales. Making the content available to everyone who buys new (eg: Batman AC Catwoman DLC, Bad Company 2 VIP pass, and Mass Effect 2 Cerberus Network) is a MUCH better solution. Those new sales still support the company directly, and everyone wins that way, even little Jenny who buys the game a month after release because she just got a birthday gift card from her dear old Granny. The dev/publisher is happy because they get a game sale (even at MSRP), and the consumer is happy because they get some perceived 'extra' while not feeling like they were nickle & dimed. The same amount of money is earned for the Dev/Pub this way, while the only one who benefits from a 'pre-sale' financially is the store who's collecting the interest. Pre-order numbers are just a marketing ploy anyways, and added to that fact is also just how many people pre-order/cancel on here so they can get bonus trade-in credit. The numbers are going to be skewed no matter what.

And now look at just the sequels to two of the games I listed: Mass Effect 3 & Battlefield 3.

All of the map packs are $15 for BF3 (of which there are 5), something which was previously FREE with the VIP pass in BC2, and done even after DICE themselves said they would never charge for maps. And before anyone says otherwise, Vietnam was technically an expansion with it's own separate servers/map rotations. You don't have it? Then you'll never get booted from a server because it changed to Vietnam maps (unlike BF3, which had that problem right after launch w/ the Karkand maps).

Then Mass Effect 3, which you had to purchase the CE (and only the CE) new to get the bonus character/mission or shell out $10 out of pocket on-top of the game cost, while ME2 included the Cerberus Network pass that netted you the bonus Squadmate PLUS tank missions /weapons/armor DLC all FREE no matter what version you bought (as long as it was new). Now I understand CE exclusive stuff and all, but is also of note that the $10 From Ashes DLC was widely regarded as an essential part of the story, and should never have been cut as it was from the main game. This point is debatable, of course, but since this is my rant I'm free to agree with it.

Those are the best examples I can think of, which I hope shows that no, I don't think DLC that's cut & made exclusive to pre-orders/special editions like the Mechromancer "rewards the biggest fans".

Now I also bet the Mechromancer is going to be available for online play (duh, it's Borderlands), so that means EVERYONE is going to have the data on their game disc or hdd from a day-one patch, just so people can play together. Again, bullshit.

Also I don't play sports games, so I have no opinion on the franchises mentioned


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The AVP Hunter Edition sets are pretty spendy for a complete/new copy nowadays.

Really wish I had picked up one from that Newegg sale . I still managed to swap my regular case for LE steelbook one @ Gamestop, so at least I have that, hehe.

Let us know how the Statue etc is, btw.

The unboxing looks neat. Might think twice and just buy it already. i like a good, quality CE, even if the quality is subjective.

Originally Posted by GBAstar In no particular order Bioshock CE Dead Space CE Demon's Souls CE Uncharted 2 Fortunate Hunter Fallout 3 (Survival Edition) Crysis Nano Edition

Oh yeah forgot about most of those. I guess Uncharted 2 is king of the hill, right?

Actually didn't realize Crysis 1 & Dead Space 1 had CE's. Didn't Mirror's Edge have one that came with the bag or something?

Originally Posted by MSUHitman Oh yeah forgot about most of those. I guess Uncharted 2 is king of the hill, right? Actually didn't realize Crysis 1 & Dead Space 1 had CE's. Didn't Mirror's Edge have one that came with the bag or something?

^ I think that is actually Crysis 2 nano edition. I think there were retailer specific bonuses for Mirror Edge that are now worth some money; I think one was a steelbook and the other was the bag you are referring to.

Unfortunately most of those are were before I started collecting and the reason they are valuable now is that the print number was so low and that they weren't available at most retailers... and the Fortunate Hunter edition was part of a contest with very few made.

Originally Posted by GBAstar ^ I think that is actually Crysis 2 nano edition. I think there were retailer specific bonuses for Mirror Edge that are now worth some money; I think one was a steelbook and the other was the bag you are referring to. Unfortunately most of those are were before I started collecting and the reason they are valuable now is that the print number was so low and that they weren't available at most retailers... and the Fortunate Hunter edition was part of a contest with very few made.

Yeah there was only about 100 made of Uncharted 2 CE and the last few times I saw it sell for $1-$2K.

Almost release day. Most of you guys still bailing on it? I was considering it but decided to stick with it. I'd kill myself if I didn't own that sweet box with ryu busting a shoryuken outta there. Really looking forward to finally playing sf tekken and getting those music cds as well. I was going to cancel and just get it later on but there's always a small risk of going OOS. Probably not but I still need it immediately! I can get some of the money back selling the games I own like alphas and hd remix.

I really wanted the OSTs, but I should save the money, so I ended up canceling mine (for now). I may try to grab it later.

Picking mine up tonight at the borderlands 2 midnight launch lol.