Originally Posted by ebucel Just waiting to see all of those anit-n64 kid videos of xmas... "What you got me the White version!!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!! I'll be the laughing stock... at school." also in japan 2nd controler is 1/2 the price of the console Ouch!

Sadly, I can see this happening. The Basic Wii has all of the same functionality and it would probably be smarter to just buy a large USB HDD as opposed to spending the extra money for Nintendo Land, some more plastic and a slightly larger SDD.

The reason why I'll probably keep my Deluxe pre-order is because it comes with some extra plastic accessories that I kind of want anyway and I'm kind of curious what I'm going to get as part of the "deluxe digital promotion" thingie.

Originally Posted by KillerRamen Sadly, I can see this happening. The Basic Wii has all of the same functionality and it would probably be smarter to just buy a large USB HDD as opposed to spending the extra money for Nintendo Land, some more plastic and a slightly larger SDD. The reason why I'll probably keep my Deluxe pre-order is because it comes with some extra plastic accessories that I kind of want anyway and I'm kind of curious what I'm going to get as part of the "deluxe digital promotion" thingie.

The controller charger is what did it for me seriously to go with the black model. Kinda handy since the controller isn't a straight up just USB cable.

The other major exclusive, it seems, is the loyalty program. It's not available separately, correct?

Originally Posted by theflicker The other major exclusive, it seems, is the loyalty program. It's not available separately, correct?

Correct, but not really much is known about it right now and I kind of doubt that's a major selling point to the kids who would complain about getting the basic one.

Originally Posted by Sir_Fragalot The controller charger is what did it for me seriously to go with the black model. Kinda handy since the controller isn't a straight up just USB cable.

The controller cradle does seem like it would be very useful for me too. I have too many damn consoles and not enough room, so the cradle would help make it a little more manageable. I'll also probably use the console stand, so that's $40 worth of plastic accessories that I'm fairly certain I'll use. So yeah, I guess it does kind of make sense for me to just go with the Deluxe bundle.

Also thinking back to when I originally got the Xbox 360, it only had a 20GB HDD at the start out with and that seemed to have worked out fine until I got the 120GB HDD. So I guess 32GBs will probably be fine as well until I see a need to buy a SD Card or external HDD.

I'm going over in my head what launch window games I want/am interested in for Wii U, and I'll be honest, the list is pretty big.

- New Super Mario Bros. U
- Rayman Legends
- The Wonderful 101
- Pikmin 3
- Nintendo Land
- Assassin's Creed 3
- Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
- Tekken Tag Tournament 2
- Zombi U
- Aliens: Colonial Marines
- Ninja Gaiden 3

I'm asking myself 'how'd this happen?' And that's not even including Bayonetta 2, which is what pushed me over the edge to pre-order in the first place.

Originally Posted by mykevermin nonsense? not sure what you mean - all three of last gen consoles were super hella hard to get around launch. unless you mean nonsense in the "nintendo deliberately shorts the market" sense. which is kinda debatable.

Maybe where you are. I remember PS3 being hot for about 2 weeks and selling at a premium during that time but prices leveled off and supplies were available well before Christmas. I don't remember Wii or Xbox 360 ever being hard to find, except maybe the two week period before christmas when everything is hard to get.


Anyways, the whole selling out of pre-orders nonsense is just marketing hype. Stores have no clue what quantities will or won't be available yet, and are erring on the side of less rather than more.

4 minutes ago The Wii U Launch Games List is divided into several sections, including launch day games, launch window titles, retail games and eShop games.
Confirmed Launch Day Games


Nintendo and other publishers haven't been very clear about which announced games will be available at launch. This short list below is of the games confirmed for launch on Day 1, November 18, 2012 in North America, many via Nintendo's official Wii U page on their website.[1]
Game Wiki Publisher Assassin’s Creed III Wiki Ubisoft Darksiders II Wiki THQ Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two Wiki Disney Interactive ESPN Sports Connection
Ubisoft Game Party Champions Wiki Warner Bros. Interactive Just Dance 4
Ubisoft New Super Mario Bros. U Wiki Nintendo Nintendo Land Wiki Nintendo Rabbids Land Wiki Ubisoft Scribblenauts Unlimited Wiki Warner Bros. Interactive Sing Party
Nintendo Tank! Tank! Tank!
Namco Bandai Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013
Ubisoft ZombiU Wiki Ubisoft Likely Launch Day Games

This list of games is confirmed for the Launch Window, but will probably be available on day one. (Citations needed)

• Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition
• Call of Duty: Black Ops II
• FIFA Soccer 13
• Jett Tailfin (Maximum Games)
• Madden NFL 13
• Mass Effect 3: Special Edition
• Marvel Avengers: Battle for Earth
• NBA 2K13
• Ninja Gaiden III: Razor's Edge
• Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
• Transformers Prime

Launch "Window" Titles

This is the full, current list of games planned to launch for the Wii U between Day 1 (November 18) and the end of March 2013 – the "launch window." Some titles are scheduled only for North America at this time, and those have been noted throughout.[2]
The company has yet to commit to specific dates for all of these titles. Check the appropriate wiki for updates as new information arises.
Game Wiki Publisher 007 Legends Wiki Activision Aliens: Colonial Marines Wiki SEGA Assassin’s Creed III Wiki Ubisoft Batman: Arkham City -- Armored Edition Wiki Warner Bros. Interactive Ben 10: Omniverse
D3 Bit.Trip Presents: Runner 2 Future Legend of Rhythm Alien
Aksys Games Cabela’s Dangerous Hunts 2013 (North America only)
Activision Call of Duty: Black Ops II Wiki Activision Darksiders II Wiki THQ Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two Wiki Disney Interactive Family Party: 30 Great Games Obstacle Arcade
D3 FIFA Soccer 13 Wiki EA Funky Barn (North America only)
Ubisoft Game & Wario Wiki Nintendo Game Party Champions Wiki Warner Bros. Interactive Jeopardy! (North America only)
THQ Jett Tailfin (North America only)
Maximum Games Just Dance 4
Ubisoft LEGO City Undercover Wiki Nintendo Madden NFL 13 Wiki EA Marvel's The Avengers: Battle for Earth Wiki Ubisoft Mass Effect 3 Wiki EA Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Wiki Capcom Nano Assault Neo Wiki Majesco NBA 2K13 Wiki 2K New Super Mario Bros. U Wiki Nintendo Ninja Gaiden III: Razor’s Edge Wiki Nintendo
Techmo Nintendo Land Wiki Nintendo Pikmin 3 (North America only) Wiki Nintendo Rabbids Land Wiki Ubisoft Rapala Pro Bass Fishing (North America only)
Activision Rayman Legends Wiki Ubisoft Rise of the Guardians: The Video Game
D3 Scribblenauts Unlimited Wiki Warner Bros. Interactive Sing Party
Nintendo Skylanders Giants
Activision Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed Wiki SEGA Sports Connection
Ubisoft Tank! Tank! Tank!
Namco Bandai Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Wiki Namco Bandai The Wonderful 101 (North America only) Wiki Nintendo Toki Tori 2
Two Tribes Transformers Prime
Activision Trine 2: Director’s Cut Wiki Atlus Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
KOEI Wheel of Fortune (North America only)
THQ Wii Fit U (North America only)
Nintendo Wipeout: The Game 3
Activision Your Shape: Fitness Evolved 2013
Ubisoft ZombiU Wiki Ubisoft Zumba Fitness Core (North America only)
Majesco If you add something to the confirmed/announced columns, you MUST provide a source - and a link. Thanks!


Announced Retail Games

• Aliens: Colonial Marines (Sega)
• Assassin's Creed III (Ubisoft)
• Avengers: Battle for Earth (Ubisoft)
• Batman Arkham City: Armored Edition (Warner Bros.)
• Bayonetta 2 (Platinum Games)
• Devil's Third(THQ)
• Dirt for Wii U
• Dragon Quest X
• F1 for Wii U (Source Developer)
• FIFA '13 (EA)
• Game & Wario (working title)
• Ghost Recon Online
• Homefront 2 (THQ)
• LEGO City Stories
• Madden Football 13
• Mass Effect 3
• Medal of Honor: Warfighter(Electronic Arts)
• NBA 2K13
• NBA Live 13(Electronc Arts)
• New Super Mario Bros. U
• Pikmin 3
• Project Cars (Source Developer)
• Rayman Raving Rabbids
• Rayman Legends (source)
• Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs (Source Developer)
• Scribblenauts Unlimited
• SiNG Party
• Super Smash Bros. "Next"
• TANK! TANK! TANK!
• Tekken Tag Tournament 2
• The Wonderful 101 (Platinum Games)
• Wii Fit U
• Wii U Panorama View (working title)

Announced Digital (eShop) Games

• 1,001 Spikes (Nicalis)
• Bit.Trip Presents Runner 2: Future Legend of Rhythm Alien (Gaijin Games)
• Cloudberry Kingdom (Pwnee)
• Marvel Pinball (Zen)
• Mutant Mudds Deluxe (Renegade Kid)
• Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs (Firehazard)
• Toki Tori 2 (Two Tribes)
• Little Inferno (Tomorrow Corporation)

I was watching some of the developer's interviews on the Nintendo site and they said Rayman Legends is going to be available at launch and the lady from Bioware said Mass Effect 3's target was launch day.

So...who wants Bayonetta in Smash Bros.? And who thinks we'll get it?

Originally Posted by KingBroly So...who wants Bayonetta in Smash Bros.? And who thinks we'll get it?

Didn't think of that. It would be really sweet.

http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/...-discussion-of

Originally Posted by mrx001 http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/...-discussion-of

I'm not saying Nintendo won't screw up online yet again, but he's basically accusing them of having a shitty setup or no setup when they haven't said what the setup is going to be yet.

In fact here's Reggie at least talking about it:

http://nintendoeverything.com/99243/...-friend-codes/

Reggie on online networks for Wii U… “And by that I mean, it’s gonna be best for us to show the specific mechanics, how it works, for me to sit here and try to explain it to you without some nice visuals is gonna take our entire interview time. The key message I would communicate to your readers would be this: We have spent a lot of time and invested a lot of money to get our connected experiences right. And so when we highlight how the eShop will work, how the Nintendo Network is going to work, I think people are going to be very pleased.” Reggie on Friend Codes… “We’ve heard the community feedback on friend codes and we’re making it dramatically easier for you to connect with your friends.” Pressing the home button will make more content available, such as the eShop, Nintendo TVii, and an actual game. Reggie was also able to confirm that there aren’t channels like there are on Wii. Rather, you’ll have “options for where you wanna go from there.” Users will be able to hop into Netflix or start a Miiverse-specific app more further content.

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Seeing that list of launch games with the confirmed titles, all 4 of the games I currently have ordered are Launch titles as well as NintendoLand, so since 3 are coming from online I'll have 2 on launch guaranteed and 5 by the end of the first week, that seems like it is plenty for the launch, plus who knows If I'll add another one or two.

Seems like I waited too long to get a pre-order in. They appear to be sold out every where online.

Originally Posted by ChibiJosh Seems like I waited too long to get a pre-order in. They appear to be sold out every where online.

Still available at Kmart.

http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_1...001P?adCell=W3

I'm hoping Lockerz will come out with preorders soon. That would make the Deluxe one around $280.

Originally Posted by pitfallharry219 Still available at Kmart. http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_1...001P?adCell=W3

Well, that was idiotic. I got all the way to click "place order", and I got a message saying they didn't have any in stock. Should have told me that before I put in my address and payment info.

Originally Posted by ChibiJosh Seems like I waited too long to get a pre-order in. They appear to be sold out every where online.

GameStop still appears to have the Basic set available.

Apparently TRU still had some pre-orders, I got one in.