Rayman Lengends has release date of Dec. 4th on amazon and gamestop.com, which is a tuesday. Wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

I hope my connection at a local game store pays off.... Otherwise I'Ll be waiting in line on launch night...

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Platinum Games wants to make a Star Fox game. Make it happen!

We've known that for a couple of years now. It will probably happen. At least we'll have a Star Fox themed stage in Bayonetta 2. Probably.

Originally Posted by Josh5890 http://mynintendonews.com/2012/09/17...medium=twitter Platinum Games wants to make a Star Fox game. Make it happen!

I am all for this. At least it's not Tecmo .

I know we're way too far out for both consoles, but does anyone think that I might be able to share an external HDD with my Ouya and Wii U? It would be much nicer if I could get away with having one external hard drive instead of two for the consoles, but I'm not really sure how that would work.

Originally Posted by KillerRamen I know we're way too far out for both consoles, but does anyone think that I might be able to share an external HDD with my Ouya and Wii U? It would be much nicer if I could get away with having one external hard drive instead of two for the consoles, but I'm not really sure how that would work.

It might if both use the same format. Like if both are formatted Fat 32 or NTFS then maybe. Depends if both need you to format the drive too. It's a possibility that they well, then again there is a possibility that they wont. Although with the Ouya, you can probably just work like a 16gb flash drive and be fine. Android games are not too big.

Completely anecdotal and just a sample of one, but I was talking to some relatively tech-savvy parents of one of my kids friends and they were pretty clueless about the Wii U. The father thought it was a portable add-on for the Wii and the mother had never heard of it at all. And this conversation was going on in their living room while their daughter was surfing Netflix on their Wii (and they own a 360 too) so they are familiar with current consoles. And these are also people that wait in line to get new iPhones...

So, yeah, not a good sign there for Nintendo - people who bought a Wii early on (after playing it at our house), are around 40 years old, and fairly tach savvy (they own a software company) yet having little idea about the Wii U even after the official release announcement last week.

It may not mean much in the grand scheme of things but I'd say Nintendo definitely has some work to do on ads/branding for this thing.

Did Target have in store preorders as well? I went in and saw no displays or signage about it. I asked someone working there but they were pretty clueless about it.

I missed out on all the online preorders because I was going to wait awhile but my girlfriend suddenly decided that she wanted to get a deluxe model for me.

Originally Posted by io So, yeah, not a good sign there for Nintendo - people who bought a Wii early on (after playing it at our house), are around 40 years old, and fairly tach savvy (they own a software company) yet having little idea about the Wii U even after the official release announcement last week. It may not mean much in the grand scheme of things but I'd say Nintendo definitely has some work to do on ads/branding for this thing.

I'm not exactly sure how much marketing Nintendo really has to do in the next 2 months. There hasn't been a new console for 6 years now, pre-orders at various retailers were stopped after 48 hours in most cases, and the impressions of the Nintendo-published titles have gradually improved each time they've been shown. Won't the stories about sell-outs at launch sort of do the job for Nintendo, at least through the end of the year?

Originally Posted by coolz481 I'm not exactly sure how much marketing Nintendo really has to do in the next 2 months. There hasn't been a new console for 6 years now, pre-orders at various retailers were stopped after 48 hours in most cases, and the impressions of the Nintendo-published titles have gradually improved each time they've been shown. Won't the stories about sell-outs at launch sort of do the job for Nintendo, at least through the end of the year?

Right, but outside of game sites, does anyone know of the preorder sellout? And like I said, this guy wasn't even aware it was a new system - just thought it was a new controller or portable version of the Wii. So while it may be the newest console in 6 years, do people (ie, the masses) even know it is a new console?

If it sells out in November and becomes a hot Christmas item, for sure people will hear about it. But is that all Nintendo is counting on? It may very well work, but it seems like it wouldn't hurt to do a little work to differentiate this from the Wii. I used to think that was silly until I saw it for myself yesterday (that people can be confused about exactly what this thing is).

I have no doubt there will be confusion. The best comparison I have is the yearly iPhone iterations.

I think Nintendo has done a bit to differentiate the Wii U between the Wii already, but it's mainly very subtle thus far.

#1 - The boxes being White and Blue instead of Black
#2 - The tablet being on the forefront instead of the Wii Remote
#3 - The HDMI cable is actually a neat pack-in, considering Sony and Microsoft don't include them
#4 - The game boxes aren't near carbon copies of the 3DS boxes

These aren't really prominent changes, but it's a good start to make it look like a new product.

Nintendo has not as of yet started any PR blitz outside of its Nintendo Direct events, so it isnt surprising there isnt much in the way of mindshare outside of the self selecting sort.

We'll probably see something in terms of advertising and national media coverage in late October to early November.

I think the box for the WiiU is just about the most boring console box ever. It's like they were trying to make it look dull.

Originally Posted by crunchewy I think the box for the WiiU is just about the most boring console box ever. It's like they were trying to make it look dull.

?? It is just like the Wii box, a simple shot of the unit being offered, albeit a shot that masks the slightly weird looking proportions of the Wii U console itself.

It is very Apple like (and now Amazon) in it's nature and that's a good thing.

Originally Posted by foltzie Nintendo has not as of yet started any PR blitz outside of its Nintendo Direct events, so it isnt surprising there isnt much in the way of mindshare outside of the self selecting sort. We'll probably see something in terms of advertising and national media coverage in late October to early November.

All they have to do is get on Good Morning America, The View and Ellen saying this is the new hot product of the season for kids. Wii-U is now selling like hotcakes outside of gamers.

I'll guess it'll be on Good Morning America, Ellen and Jimmy Fallon. 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

Originally Posted by foltzie ?? It is just like the Wii box, a simple shot of the unit being offered, albeit a shot that masks the slightly weird looking proportions of the Wii U console itself. It is very Apple like (and now Amazon) in it's nature and that's a good thing.

Perhaps they are trying to be like Apple, but I don't think they succeeded. But that's just a matter of IMHO, of course.

I've been harping on how WIIU is effectively unknown to current Wii owners for a while now not to troll, but to point out exactly that: it's the follow-up to one of Nintendo's most successful consoles, and people don't realize that. We're 60 days from launch and people still don't know. I know exactly 1 Wii family who knows what the WIIU is (and they know they're not buying, at least not at launch). Everybody else either doesn't know or has ridiculous questions that suggest they think the WIIU is an accessory, along the lines of "Does the iPad-thingie let me use the iPad apps?" (yes, that was real).

I don't know how you can ignore these signs or pretend that Nintendo's playing a calculated game here. So much of the WIIU, whether it's the console, the library, or the marketing, is just all over the place or up in the air. Nintendo's still using these 60 days to figure out how they want to sell this. The recent release on Nintendoland needing the Network for effectively Miis only is a good example they're working out tactics through public announcements rather than having planned it out in advance (as they should -- they certainly had time for it).

And to answer the point on there not being no network co-op play in Nintendoland: yes, I know it isn't a revelation to Nintendo fans, but I think it may be to many others. Especially given that the charge for the Nintendo Network places an emphasis on that feature and perhaps creates the expectation of online co-op play in notable titles. I don't offer it as a criticism of Nintendoland, I'm just pointing out that in drumming up "features" for the WIIU announcement, it's clear they didn't think it through. They should have anticipated that question rather than stammering their way through a response to it.

Anyhow, if they're looking for grassroots/viral type stuff, they're stuck. If they have a plan, it's very delayed. No matter, I don't care how many GS pre-orders are out there, that's not nearly as much an indicator of future success as the current PR/marketing void.

I guess the plan is for lightening to strike twice. Good luck with it, N.

Originally Posted by crunchewy I think the box for the WiiU is just about the most boring console box ever. It's like they were trying to make it look dull.

I dunno... I think it looks like pretty standard.

Originally Posted by foltzie Nintendo has not as of yet started any PR blitz outside of its Nintendo Direct events, so it isnt surprising there isnt much in the way of mindshare outside of the self selecting sort. We'll probably see something in terms of advertising and national media coverage in late October to early November.

Yeah, most normal people usually don't pay attention to these kind of events. I remember being able to pre-order my Wii pretty easily and everything went nuts shortly after launch (if I remember correctly).

Nintendo still has to do lots more of these Wii U experience things like they did with the Wii experiences at malls and stuff. I don't think they've done any TV yet and I will be very surprised if they don't do a big ad in the previews of Disney's Wreck it Ralph.

It's still September. People aren't thinking about Christmas yet.