Originally Posted by Derfel That's interesting; isn't that more than can actually fit on a single Xbox disc? I'm pre-downloading from Steam right now and even though the specs say 13-20GB, all that is being downloaded is 4635MB. There is likely compression involved, of course.

No all 360 discs are Dual Layer so they fit ~9.2GB but the new disc that they are using can hold I believe close to ~10 or 11GB.

Originally Posted by clonesniper666 No all 360 discs are Dual Layer so they fit ~9.2GB but the new disc that they are using can hold I believe close to ~10 or 11GB.

They're still single-side DVD-9 discs, so the maximum theoretical size is 7.95GB; the 360 discs also have some sort of copy protection/update sector so a bit of that space is automatically compromised. The maximum size of actual game data on the previous discs was 6.8GB; even with the newer type I've never seen one larger than 7.7GB.

EDIT: The largest single disc-size currently appears to be Dragon's Dogma, which is 7.9GB.

Originally Posted by Derfel They're still single-side DVD-9 discs, so the maximum theoretical size is 7.95GB; the 360 discs also have some sort of copy protection/update sector so a bit of that space is automatically compromised. The maximum size of actual game data on the previous discs was 6.8GB; even with the newer type I've never seen one larger than 7.7GB.

There is no Single Layer DVD-9, all are Dual Layer. Only DVD-5 are Single Layer, hence why you see a lot of RPGs on Wii on DVD-9 because a complete disc rip is close to 8.5GB do most Wii RPGs.

The 360 uses the same DVD-9 that companies use for the Wii just woth added security. If you don't believe me find a complete disc rip NFO online or do a rip yourself and you will see most 360 games are close to 8GB minimum on disc.

Originally Posted by clonesniper666 There is no Single Layer DVD-9, all are Dual Layer. Only DVD-5 are Single Layer, hence why you see a lot of RPGs on Wii on DVD-9 because a complete disc rip is close to 8.5GB do most Wii RPGs. The 360 uses the same DVD-9 that companies use for the Wii just woth added security. If you don't believe me find a complete disc rip NFO online or do a rip yourself and you will see most 360 games are close to 8GB minimum on disc.

I said single-side, not single-layer, and I'm talking about real GBs, not billions of bytes. The maximum theoretical size of a DVD-9 is 8,547,991,552 bytes, which is 7.961 GB. I've installed many 360 discs and like I said, I've never seen one larger than 7.7GB (as mentioned though, Dragon's Dogma is 7.9GB). See the reference list here:

http://www.stripesonfire.com/xbox-36...-install-list/

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Take note that the only real plus for pre-orering is the mechromancer class and it will be released mid October for $10. For those thinking of ordering from the UK PSN remember only two members will have access to the class as it won't release with the game. Also, even though the game downloads to your system before release it does not release until Friday. Remember that all future content will have to be from the UK PSN as well and I'm sure the season pass will be more expensive than in the US as with most PSN items (mechromancer is releasing on UK PSN for 8 pounds or around $12.50)

Originally Posted by Raiborg Take note that the only real plus for pre-orering is the mechromancer class and it will be released mid October for $10. For those thinking of ordering from the UK PSN remember only two members will have access to the class as it won't release with the game. Also, even though the game downloads to your system before release it does not release until Friday. Remember that all future content will have to be from the UK PSN as well and I'm sure the season pass will be more expensive than in the US as with most PSN items (mechromancer is releasing on UK PSN for 8 pounds or around $12.50)

Ah, thanks for the info, not getting it from the UK store then if the release date is the 21st there..

Also: Looking for a phantom or resell share in any borderlands 2 us group.

Brockothoko clear out some PM space.

Borderlands 2. Need one more resale/host.

Resale:
1.Farmor-cn
2.

Phantom
1. fmills15
2. Sharp Katana

F1 2012 (Comes out 18.09.2012)

$20
1.
2.
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$10
1. Polaris1001
2.

Originally Posted by Polaris1001 F1 2012 (Comes out 18.09.2012) $20 1. 2. ----------------- $10 1. Polaris1001 2.Cule54

Added myself for a phantom spot.

Originally Posted by cule54 Added myself for a phantom spot.

Didn't you already make a group that filled up a few pages back? I was a resell spot on that one......

Originally Posted by MiaFLSurf Didn't you already make a group that filled up a few pages back? I was a resell spot on that one......

Nah, that was for a fifa group, this is for F1, btw sending pmnt info right now.

Hahaha. That's what I get for reading this forum on my iPhone. Shit is too small and I misread. Sorry

Anybody ever have a problem with an rdr share¿

I asked momouchi for a refund because i was able to download the main game ,.but whenever i tried to download the dlc, it had told me the max slots was full (2)
Even though this is a pre apocalypse share.

Originally Posted by galindo62 Anybody ever have a problem with an rdr share¿ I asked momouchi for a refund because i was able to download the main game ,.but whenever i tried to download the dlc, it had told me the max slots was full (2) Even though this is a pre apocalypse share.

Separate DLC is not pre it is post. If you download the RDR main game and Undead Nightmare Full game the it is all pre.

The separate DLC was not added till after the decrease.

Originally Posted by fmills15 Borderlands 2. Need one more resale/host. Resale: 1.Farmor-cn 2. Phantom 1. fmills15 2. Sharp Katana

I would want to join for a resale slot, but I can't host.

Borderlands 2 (7)

$20
1. cobolatrix
2. cwinters
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$10
1. MrRosales
2. MrRosales

Could someone help us to get the account funded? We might need only $40 because MrRosales said he would use a PSN card.

Originally Posted by galindo62 Anybody ever have a problem with an rdr share¿ I asked momouchi for a refund because i was able to download the main game ,.but whenever i tried to download the dlc, it had told me the max slots was full (2) Even though this is a pre apocalypse share.

I had the same issue with a share from momouchi. I thought about asking for a refund but really the share works it just doesnt update to zen 2. Does anyone have any info on how we can get access to 1 of the 2 slots to get the new stuff from the store?

Originally Posted by OlDirtyBastard I had the same issue with a share from momouchi. I thought about asking for a refund but really the share works it just doesnt update to zen 2. Does anyone have any info on how we can get access to 1 of the 2 slots to get the new stuff from the store?

One of the 2 ps3s that have activated the new content would have to be deactivated.

I thought FIFA come out tomorrow? I didn't see it on the Drop is why ask.