Originally Posted by DVO21 well now N8 needs to agree pick 4 people to go along side with him on this and then 2 others as subs

Not sure why but this is what I thought of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZZLwl6zZSI

so now for mine and the browns trade we have to wait???

Originally Posted by CAGLeagueSports I'd be fine with a committee, but if we do it that way, I think we should go all the way and not discuss trades at all in the thread (other than posting a trade block...which can be done in the game...but there's no harm listing it here too for accessibility). Keep it to PM's, and only make announcements in here when trades are approved. Damn...choosing a committee really makes me feel like a politician. Like I know that the best "cabinet" should include people who's views aren't always the same as my own...but man, this is tough, lol. I feel like there are two major factors: veteran status and activity level in the thread (well...in addition to the obvious, knowledge of the game and impartiality).

Yeah I think trades should be secret until they are revealed. Unless we can get a real life Adam Schefter to break open a rumor.

Steggy

lol that hurts as i feel i was being slammed maybe not though but i got a chuckle out of it either way

TRADE AlERTS

Originally Posted by DVO21 Buffalo receives: 2013 2nd round pick, 2013 3rd round pick Cincinatti receives: RB C.J. Spiller spiller overall 80 age 25 contract 3 years remaining signing bonus 15 million 2012- 3.93 million 2013- 4.21 million 2014- 4.59 million

Arizona sends WR Michael Floyd
Bengals sends LT Whitworth

Whitworth age 30 overall 90
remaining contract 4 years signing bonus 10 Million
2012- 3.44 Million
2013- 3.84 million
2014- 4.43 million
2015- 5.15 million

Michael Floyd age 22 overall 76
remaining contract 4 years signing bonus 4.80 million
2012- 2.04 million
2013- 2.29 million
2014- 2.62 million
2015- 3.05 million


bengals send WR Sanu and 5th round pick
jets send WR Stephen Hill

Sanu age 23 overall 73
remaining contract 4 years bonus 600K
2012- 510K
2013- 610K
2014- 750K
2015- 930K

Stephen Hill age 21 overall 73
remaining contract 4 years bonus 2 million
2012- 980K
2013- 1.13 million
2014- 1.32 million
2015- 1.57 million

Can I assume the Whitworth trade is about dumping salary?

Jets agree to the Bengals-Jets trade

Originally Posted by jza1218 Can I assume the Whitworth trade is about dumping salary?

not really i told him who i wanted he told me who he wanted and i have another left tackle that will fill the spot just fine but im thin at decent WRs so i need a good target so im fine with the trade plus he takes a little hit with age and i take a little hit with overall difference i think its even

Trade between the Patriots(Hemingway) and the Browns(fseacrest)

Browns Receive:

Tom Brady- QB-age 35- 93 ovr under current scheme, 3 years remaining- Total 53.74- 2012-14.21, 2013-17.58, 2014-21.95
Rob Ninkovich- DE-age28- 72 regular ovr, in 3-4 schemes his rating is low 80's. 2 years remaining- Total- 2 Million, 2012-1.87, 2013-2.13

Patriots Receive:
Joe Haden- CB-age 23- 91 ovr in my scheme, has great man to man which is what i look for. 3 years remaining- Total-27.65, 2012-7.67, 2013-9.07, 2014-10.91
Brandon Weeden- QB-age 28- 75 ovr in my scheme- 4 years remaining, Total-8 millions, 2012-1.65, 2013-1.84, 2014-2.09, 2015-2.42



The Patriots cap before the trade is 17.74 million and the Browns are 20.92 so we both have a lot of cap to make this trade work. He gets the franchise qb he wants, i get the man to man corner i like.

Trade between Green Bay and Miami. This will have to be done in two separate trades because it involves four players/draft picks from each side.

Green Bay(Steggy) receives-

Mike Pouncey- 23 years old- C- 79 ovr- 2012- 2.17, Total remaining- 9.40 over 4 years
Reggie Bush- 27 years old- Rb- 87 ovr- 2012- 5.52, total remaing- 5.52 over 1 year
1st and 2nd round pick

Miami(chetty12) receives-

Greg Jennings- 29 years old- Wr- 92 ovr- 2012-8.26, total remaining- 8.26 over 1 year
Davon House- 23 years old- Cb- 73 ovr- 2012- 480k, total remaining- 2.2 over 3 years
Jeff Saturday- 37 years old- C- 86 ovr- 2012- 3.9, total remaining 7.8 over 2 years
James Starks- 26 years old- Rb- 74 ovr- 2012- 520k, total remaining 2.00 over 2 years.

All ovr are from my scheme. I get a number one receiver, an experienced C, a decent Man to Man nickel corner, and a replacement Rb. I get the higher overall players, which is why the draft picks are involved. I believe Steggy also did this trade to free up a little cap room, i believe he gains around 5 million.

Originally Posted by Hemingway012 Trade between the Patriots(Hemingway) and the Browns(fseacrest) Browns Receive: Tom Brady- QB- 93 ovr under current scheme, 3 years remaining- Total 53.74- 2012-14.21, 2013-17.58, 2014-21.95 Rob Ninkovich- DE- 72 regular ovr, in 3-4 schemes his rating is low 80's. 2 years remaining- Total- 2 Million, 2012-1.87, 2013-2.13 Patriots Receive: Joe Haden- CB- 91 ovr in my scheme, has great man to man which is what i look for. 3 years remaining- Total-27.65, 2012-7.67, 2013-9.07, 2014-10.91 Brandon Weeden- QB- 75 ovr in my scheme- 4 years remaining, Total-8 millions, 2012-1.65, 2013-1.84, 2014-2.09, 2015-2.42 The Patriots cap before the trade is 17.74 million and the Browns are 20.92 so we both have a lot of cap to make this trade work. He gets the franchise qb he wants, i get the man to man corner i like.

trade look fair i had my eye on haden so a little sad to see him go but the trade is fair in my eyes i cant beleive ur getting rid of brady but the trade looks fair and square

Originally Posted by Hemingway012 Trade between the Patriots(Hemingway) and the Browns(fseacrest) Browns Receive: Tom Brady- QB- 93 ovr under current scheme, 3 years remaining- Total 53.74- 2012-14.21, 2013-17.58, 2014-21.95 Rob Ninkovich- DE- 72 regular ovr, in 3-4 schemes his rating is low 80's. 2 years remaining- Total- 2 Million, 2012-1.87, 2013-2.13 Patriots Receive: Joe Haden- CB- 91 ovr in my scheme, has great man to man which is what i look for. 3 years remaining- Total-27.65, 2012-7.67, 2013-9.07, 2014-10.91 Brandon Weeden- QB- 75 ovr in my scheme- 4 years remaining, Total-8 millions, 2012-1.65, 2013-1.84, 2014-2.09, 2015-2.42 The Patriots cap before the trade is 17.74 million and the Browns are 20.92 so we both have a lot of cap to make this trade work. He gets the franchise qb he wants, i get the man to man corner i like.

How old are the players?

100% why I did it.... Clay matthews will eat up a lot of cash after his contract is up this year. Inevitably I would not be allowed to sign jennings and I am simply cleaning shop now with this trade, as I am pretty sound at wr.

Originally Posted by Chetty12 Trade between Green Bay and Miami. This will have to be done in two separate trades because it involves four players/draft picks from each side. Green Bay(Steggy) receives- Mike Pouncey- C- 79 ovr- 2012- 2.17, Total remaining- 9.40 over 4 years Reggie Bush- Rb- 87 ovr- 2012- 5.52, total remaing- 5.52 over 1 year 1st and 2nd round pick Miami(chetty12) receives- Greg Jennings- Wr- 92 ovr- 2012-8.26, total remaining- 8.26 over 1 year Davon House- Cb- 73 ovr- 2012- 480k, total remaining- 2.2 over 3 years Jeff Saturday- C- 86 ovr- 2012- 3.9, total remaining 7.8 over 2 years James Starks- Rb- 74 ovr- 2012- 520k, total remaining 2.00 over 2 years. All ovr are from my scheme. I get a number one receiver, an experienced C, a decent Man to Man nickel corner, and a replacement Rb. I get the higher overall players, which is why the draft picks are involved. I believe Steggy also did this trade to free up a little cap room, i believe he gains around 5 million.

Ages are supposed to be posted in the trades.

Originally Posted by Chetty12 Trade between Green Bay and Miami. This will have to be done in two separate trades because it involves four players/draft picks from each side. Green Bay(Steggy) receives- Mike Pouncey- C- 79 ovr- 2012- 2.17, Total remaining- 9.40 over 4 years Reggie Bush- Rb- 87 ovr- 2012- 5.52, total remaing- 5.52 over 1 year 1st and 2nd round pick Miami(chetty12) receives- Greg Jennings- Wr- 92 ovr- 2012-8.26, total remaining- 8.26 over 1 year Davon House- Cb- 73 ovr- 2012- 480k, total remaining- 2.2 over 3 years Jeff Saturday- C- 86 ovr- 2012- 3.9, total remaining 7.8 over 2 years James Starks- Rb- 74 ovr- 2012- 520k, total remaining 2.00 over 2 years. All ovr are from my scheme. I get a number one receiver, an experienced C, a decent Man to Man nickel corner, and a replacement Rb. I get the higher overall players, which is why the draft picks are involved. I believe Steggy also did this trade to free up a little cap room, i believe he gains around 5 million.

seems fair for the most part u get cap space he gets players u get picks and the ability to re sign mathews i dont see how its no0t fair ur both happy its pretty even u both win

Originally Posted by jza1218 Ages are supposed to be posted in the trades.

Edited in the ages.

Originally Posted by Chetty12 Edited in the ages.

Thanks Chetty for being on top of this and getting this trade moving.

Originally Posted by DVO21 Steggy lol that hurts as i feel i was being slammed maybe not though but i got a chuckle out of it either way

No it was not a slam at all! I simply was reminiscent of my youth and a time where higher powers controlled what I loved dearly....

Originally Posted by Twick87 TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT: NYG receive : 2013 4th round pick, 2014 7th round pick BUF receive: QB Eli Manning, WR Victor Cruz, LB Lawrence Taylor

lol no.

Originally Posted by Chetty12 Trade between Green Bay and Miami. This will have to be done in two separate trades because it involves four players/draft picks from each side. Green Bay(Steggy) receives- Mike Pouncey- 23 years old- C- 79 ovr- 2012- 2.17, Total remaining- 9.40 over 4 years Reggie Bush- 27 years old- Rb- 87 ovr- 2012- 5.52, total remaing- 5.52 over 1 year 1st and 2nd round pick Miami(chetty12) receives- Greg Jennings- 29 years old- Wr- 92 ovr- 2012-8.26, total remaining- 8.26 over 1 year Davon House- 23 years old- Cb- 73 ovr- 2012- 480k, total remaining- 2.2 over 3 years Jeff Saturday- 37 years old- C- 86 ovr- 2012- 3.9, total remaining 7.8 over 2 years James Starks- 26 years old- Rb- 74 ovr- 2012- 520k, total remaining 2.00 over 2 years. All ovr are from my scheme. I get a number one receiver, an experienced C, a decent Man to Man nickel corner, and a replacement Rb. I get the higher overall players, which is why the draft picks are involved. I believe Steggy also did this trade to free up a little cap room, i believe he gains around 5 million.

Here's how I see it:

Saturday is a bit better than Pouncey now, but much older and more expensive. Jennings is better than Bush and since both are free agents after the season the cap room this year is kind of irrelevant. That leaves Stars and House for the picks, which on the surface seems ridiculous but the picks also help make up for the difference in the present in overalls that GB is giving up. Personally I think a first and a second is a bit much, but it's fair.