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Originally Posted by M1C13 I got a strange price update today... GM-XBOX 360 (black/ 120GB) $479.99 NEW $439.99 USED. Also the release date is listed as 5/1/2007. I don't know if GameCrazy is just jumping on the rumor bandwagon or if they have inside information. This also means that you can preorder one since it has a release date and a price. To preorder a system is $50.00. Call your local Game Crazy for more info. 513 825 1884 is my store ask for mike.

Holy ! I'm in. I just bought a 360 at Costco tonight but I was disappointed that it turned out to be a Sept 14th model (and thus no chance of the newer quiet drive). If this is the case I can definitely wait until May 1st. And I had better preorder since I'm sure they will be as hard to find for a while as the Wii is now .

I have no problem with that price if it has the much bigger HD, the quiet DVD drive, and the 65 nm processor. I don't even care about HDMI, but it would be nice to be future-proofed (my HDTV does have a DVI input so I suppose I could use that).

I assume there will be new black controllers to go with it? Are those in the system? I guess the old ones will still work with it though (I can burn some of my remaining GR credit on an extra controller).

I think I will pre-order the used 360 for $439.99. I can't wait to get it!

The pricing seems kinda odd, maybe this will come with HDMI cables, an extra wireless controller and a game? That would make sense.

Just called my Gamecrazy - they have nothing in the system but the regular premium and core systems. They haven't ever heard of a black one and probably think I'm crazy now .

OP, if you can get a SKU or some way in which they could look it up in the computer that would be helpful. I have no idea how their system works but maybe they just aren't looking in the right place. Or maybe it hasn't propagated to all stores yet?

Originally Posted by io Just called my Gamecrazy - they have nothing in the system but the regular premium and core systems. They haven't ever heard of a black one and probably think I'm crazy now . OP, if you can get a SKU or some way in which they could look it up in the computer that would be helpful. I have no idea how their system works but maybe they just aren't looking in the right place. Or maybe it hasn't propagated to all stores yet?

they just think you are gamecrazy

Originally Posted by panasonic they just think you are gamecrazy

Originally Posted by shipwreck Releasing in May for only $20 less than a PS3? Seems like a strange strategy if that date and price are anywhere near correct. They'd basically be trying to sell a larger hard drive which most people wouldn't use for $80 more than the standard console. Most consumers wouldn't know the difference in hard drive size, but many may notice that the PS3 plays blu-ray for only $20 more. The price seems rather steep to me.

If most consumers don't care about a larger harddrive, why is the 60gb PS3 far more popular than the 20gb one? I know the 60gb PS3 has other features (built-in wi-fi and card reader), but the bigger harddrive is easily the biggest feature.

Originally Posted by PenguinMaster If most consumers don't care about a larger harddrive, why is the 60gb PS3 far more popular than the 20gb one? I know the 60gb PS3 has other features (built-in wi-fi and card reader), but the bigger harddrive is easily the biggest feature.

Sony loses less money on the 60 gig so they are much easier to find than the 20 gigs. If the 20 gig was less scarce than it currently is, I don't the 60 gig would be moving as many units as it currently is.

I checked the computers and found nothing on a Black Xbox 360. We don't look systems/games up by SKU, just the name. Something I found a little odd is there is a "GM- Xbox System (Defective)..........New/ 0.00....Used/ 0.00" in the system now. I have noticed that before and the other systems don't have "Defective" options. Normally, in the past when something goes $0.00 then that's a way of corporate telling us, "don't touch this yet." For example: The Halo 3 legendary is 0.00 so that we can't take preorders on it anymore. You need a minimum of 5 bucks to preorder, but the total dollar can't be higher than the price listed in the computer. So, if they list the price in the computer anywhere between $0.00 - $4.99 we can't take a preorder for it. Also (back on track to the black 360), the fact the list it for $0.00 means they don't want us to take any reservations on it & since they have the word "defective" tagged to it means they might be holding some type of secret that they don't want anybody to know.
Now, I'm just guessing... does this make any sense to any other Game Crazy employees. Maybe you noticed the defective Xboxes listed a long time ago & I'm just crazy......but that is my 2 cents.....

Originally Posted by shipwreck Releasing in May for only $20 less than a PS3? Seems like a strange strategy if that date and price are anywhere near correct. They'd basically be trying to sell a larger hard drive which most people wouldn't use for $80 more than the standard console. Most consumers wouldn't know the difference in hard drive size, but many may notice that the PS3 plays blu-ray for only $20 more. The price seems rather steep to me.

Although I agree with you on the HDD, I'm totally sold on this if its got HDMI.

if it has an hdmi output i am sold

i wonder if this has anything to do with tivo having an online download service for movies...they just announced it recently.since most tivos are 80gb and they have some other perks msft currently doesn't offer, granted tivo isn't readily available with hd content. Nelson, one of the planetxbox360 podcast host, said he was a beta for the tivo service and he said that it ended a little while ago and will be available to the public very shortly

I got the best buy service plan, but i didn't realize they will let you use it as credit towards another system unless there was a deffect? I hope I am wrong, but it just doesn't make sense for best buy to offer that service unless so few take care of it.

If this really is the truth, I hate to say it buy I will probably be selling my 360 and moving on.

I don't care about the harddrive space, color, or processor, but if they release an HDMI out I'm going to be irritated.

interesting, but useless. who the hell needs 100gb on a game console? especially one that streams movies, music, and recognizes MP3 players

and if they announce a surprise-- like if it has an HD-DVD drive and HDMI...that would be pretty lame.

Originally Posted by PenguinMaster If most consumers don't care about a larger harddrive, why is the 60gb PS3 far more popular than the 20gb one? I know the 60gb PS3 has other features (built-in wi-fi and card reader), but the bigger harddrive is easily the biggest feature.

I'll pay you $1200 if you see a 20gb PS3 on a shelf for more than 5 minutes.

okay, no, but it seems like the 60gb systems are everywhere and 20gb are gone.

I'll bite if there is a way to transfer data from my current console to the new one

I like my 360 in white as it doesn't show dust that well. Only way I'm buying another and selling my old one is if a new comes with everything thats been rumored; 65nm, HDMI, and quite drive.

At first glance at the thread title, I thought you were referring to the Criterion FPS, haha...

As someone already mentioned, if this new version contains suprises (ie HD-DVD drive) I would be sorely dissapointed in MS. But 120GB, new color and HDMI (supported by my TV) would be passable at $429.99, with the not-as premium at $349.99. I purchased a launch 360 without any problems until recently (cannot play Viva Pinata for more than 15min without a freeze) and would be tempted to replace.

Also, how far off are the dual format DVD players? (that would be a REAL suprise)

Originally Posted by Apossum interesting, but useless. who the hell needs 100gb on a game console?

If this new black 360 really does exist, it isn't being marketed as just a game console, it would be marketed as a gateway device into iptv/dvr/video download service center of your living room. The current 360, with only 20 gigs, mostly fails at that.

Most of you, for some reason, seem to think this black one would be replacing the current model. They are aimed at two different markets.

White model = Cheaper, mostly for games, can do other stuff but not as well as the black one.

Black model = Great for Video Marketplace and IPTV. Is also a game console.

I have no idea what you people are even talking about. 120gb is FAR too small in my opinion. With HD 1 hour episodes being around 2 gigs, 120 is nothing. I could use that up in a week, tops. I was hoping for at least 250. Oh well.

Originally Posted by PagingDrUgly At first glance at the thread title, I thought you were referring to the Criterion FPS, haha... As someone already mentioned, if this new version contains suprises (ie HD-DVD drive) I would be sorely dissapointed in MS. But 120GB, new color and HDMI (supported by my TV) would be passable at $429.99, with the not-as premium at $349.99. I purchased a launch 360 without any problems until recently (cannot play Viva Pinata for more than 15min without a freeze) and would be tempted to replace. Also, how far off are the dual format DVD players? (that would be a REAL suprise)

$429.99 for a bigger hard drive? Okay, especially with a $349.99 price for the premium. $479.99? That's backpeddaling and pretty much giving away a major advantage. I don't buy it.

Why would he put his name and number in the OP, I bet one of his friends did this when he went to the bathroom.

I mean, he posts his name and number but no SKU? Whatsupwiththat?