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CheapyD and Wombat discuss Wii disappointments, Xbox 360 Partnernet controversies, and the only PS3 game worth $600. In addition, we cover the latest industry and game shopping news, your questions from the CAGbag, and much more!

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Show Linkage/Notes:

Intro music: Goonies II (NES)

Contest winners: drumman201 (Phoenix Wright 2) & Panasonic (VF5)

CAG Foreplay: New Releases (2/20/07)

Partnernet
Black 360 is in Game Crazy POS
XBLA's Ross Erickson leaves Microsoft, heads over to Sierra Online

Sound Of GameStop Stalking

Nintendo's web stats soar above rivals
Scary Manhunt 2 Letter

AOL: Don't Buy a PS3

Analyst: EA "Most Likely Buyer" Of 2K Sports

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Outro: Buck Rogers Planet of Zoom

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CheapyD Rides the Segway

http://www.miniarcade.com/epoch/eman.htm

Great show. It's nice to see the feedback section again after it went missing for a few eps.

Put me in for Crackdown, though I regret always posting in the top five, since it seems like the lower numbers never get picked.

To enter the latest contest, please post in the new contest thread.

p.s. I always use random.org to pick the winners

You don't need to upgrade the Wii's firmware before downloading channels. I downloaded Everybody Votes first and updated after that and it worked fine.

At the Manhunt 2 "letter" you got, Cheapy.

That EA rumor is just so stupid. We need someone to become CAG's spoof financial analyst since it takes no skill for guys like Michael Pachter to fo it.

Good show, as always.

Ahhhhh...the Segway.It revolutionized the way people get hit by cars.Wonder if you can drive that thing drunk.

AND WOMBAT IF YOURE LOOKING TO DITCH YOURE XBOX 360,ILL GIVE YOU A DECENT AMOUNT FOR IT.

Originally Posted by mrx1 Ahhhhh,the Segway.It revolutionized the way people get hit by cars.Wonder if you can drive that thing drunk.

Cheapy probably just uploaded it, so it's probably still processing.

The Short Answer:

Game certification and game testing ARE NOT the same thing.

The Long Answer:

Game certification usually happens early on, when much of the game is on paper and/or during the alpha phase. At least, that's how it works (yes, present tense) at Sony.

great podcast guys keep up the work
off topic........... does anyone kno if a bluetooth headseat thats Blutooth 1.2 will work with the PS3

PS maybe cheapy u can send me a gratis copy of rail simulator for my Ps3

yeah i havent played jade empire might pick up i have seen it for like 14

I don't see how hard the Everybody Votes channel was to figure out. The message that came from Nintendo annoucing Everybody Votes specifically said that you needed to update the firmware before the channel would be active. The fact that the Upgrade button is in the message itself is apparently not obvious enough.

I agree that WiiConnect24 should be downloading firmware updates automatically (but NOT applying them), and that it could be used more effectively, but please don't blame your lack of reading skills on problems with downloading and using the channel.

Hey good show. couple of observations.

The nintendo nielson ratings maybe a little high if they include DS gaming in thier statistics. Also the hits for the Wii connect maybe just one time hits from people setting up thier systems and checking it out.

Much as I would like to see Jade Empire 360 they would have to recode the entire game from scrath to work with new hardware. Cost bioware a lot of money and they couldn't release it at a lower price point.

However why couldn't microsoft re-release the best xbox titles with the emulation code for each specific game on each disc that way you wouldn't need xbox live and you could sell these games at a lower price.

I think we all know what "medium-large consumer electronics company" Wombat works for now.

wat company does ye olde wombat work for?

Great show as always guys. Put me down for crackdown

Segway scooters are SUPPOSED to come up to your waist (when you stand on them).


And OMGWTFBBQ!!! Put me down for Crackdown

This is the first prize I've REALLY wanted to win!!!!!!! (besides the $100 and stuff like that)




CRACKDOWN!!!

I like the 'you're wrong trip1ex' Wombat voice. I lol-ed on that.

But come on. Playing R6:Vegas is the same as playing R6, R6:Rogue Spear, R63, R63:xpac, R63:Lockdown, GR, GR xpacs, GR2, GR:AW, Gr:AW2, ....etc. I even think it's getting to be the same as playing Splinter Cell.

Hell if you played the first level of a R6 game you've seen the rest of the game.


And as far as WiiSports goes......... you don't throwaway a board game because you played it once. You don't tear down your basketball hoop after you shoot baskets for one hour. You don't put your pool table on craigslist after your first day of playing because you've seen all there is to play!!!!!!!!

WiiSports is like your board game or basketball hoop or Pool Table or Chess board,e tc. IT's like a card game.


You're right that R6 is pretty good about breaking the experience into shorter play sessions although I think you're exagerating the 15 minute thing. Good luck booting up the game and getting to a checkpoint in 15 minutes. WiiSports is still much better in this regard because its games are a few minutes long. IT also is much quicker to get into a game of WiiSports.

Where R6 really fails, as stated above ,is that it doesn't offer a new experience. Yeah Vegas is probably the best version ever, but this year's crop of hdtvs are probably better than last years too. That doesn't mean I rush out and by a new hdtv. Why? Ok they cost alot of money, but I could 'trade in' my old one and not be out alot relatively speaking. REally though I don't bother because the improvements aren't great enough to make a change.

That's the same with games and so without new experiences (& shorter experiences) you're going to lose gamers as they age.

Don't get me wrong. WiiPlay and WiiSports aren't the only types of new experiences I think will work to retain customers, but Nintendo seems to the only big publisher putting out some really new experiences and giving us some shorter games.

I would love it if American publishers gave us some casual short bloody violent games that are something new and different.

Anyway good show as usual. I may not always agree with ya all, but you guys do a pretty darn good job.

Note to self: insert more song lyrics into new releases.

Goonies!

Where do I find the Amazon video game deal of the day? I have been looking all over for it.

Originally Posted by Ciego Where do I find the Amazon video game deal of the day? I have been looking all over for it.

Today's deal is Splinter Cell: Double Agent for the 360.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...eapassgam08-20