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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA First world problems.

Truly. And super job keeping it real in this Star Trek thread. You keep us grounded and remind us where we came from.

Also, big ups to the man upstairs. Ya heard, Q-dog?

Right.

Originally Posted by RedvsBlue Agreed, Shinzon and Hardy were the best parts of that movie. Dude, literally, and figuratively, went toe to toe with Patrick Stewart and won.

I think that's what I meant with my earlier comments about Nemesis. It definitely had problems but I enjoyed his character and interactions with Picard.

Didn't even realize that the movies were being talked about. I just spent the last week watching all of them, after having watched every episode.

I hope that anyone who had a problem with the dune buggy scene also hated the hell out of all the early America time travel/holodeck episodes. Those are far more out of place and nonsensical (especially in their frequency) than an innocuous scene. Worse still were the Sherlock Holmes episodes.

Why would a starship have a dune buggy? Because it would suck balls to cross an unknown planet's desert looking for parts of android bait. Data also alludes to them using that method because of humans' preference for fast vehicles. Had Stewart's demand actually changed the plot or outcome of the film, then I could see a reason to not like it.

My thoughts on the movies are:

* Generations was fun and I really liked that it explained Guinan's backstory. I imagine they had to do it to justify Whoopi Goldberg being in the movie though. My favorite part was seeing the contrast between the original Star Trek being a groovy trip (Shatner) and TNG being more about understanding the world (Picard).

* First Contact was some hot garbage. If there's one Trek movie to hate for being too mainstream and escaping its roots, it's that one. I can't decide what I hate more. The painfully long opening credits, Vulcans listening to rock music, or anything involving the Borg not making a lick of sense.

* Insurrection was fun for me if only because it reminded me of the conspiracy from earlier episodes. Not much good to say but not much bad either.

* Nemesis was a good cap. I really liked that they brought out some new villains that had some purpose and vague mentions throughout the series. Kinda bothersome that they never explained how the viceroy and Shinzon were able to mind rape Troi but hey, it's not like they even acknowledged that Riker almost died either. The part with Shinzon impaling himself more was a bit much since I don't see how a guy with failing health would have survived the initial stab wound. Data kicking him over when he finally died was humorous because again, once the villains died it was as if they hadn't existed. It was easy to see that they had run out of steam by that point so I'm glad it ended the way it did.

Originally Posted by davo1224 I hope that anyone who had a problem with the dune buggy scene also hated the hell out of all the early America time travel/holodeck episodes. Those are far more out of place and nonsensical (especially in their frequency) than an innocuous scene. Worse still were the Sherlock Holmes episodes.

Whatever Data's fate, he's been immortalized on my foot. I wasn't going for a super-realistic portrait, I wanted a more traditional-style tattoo. And before anyone asks, I have a lot of work done already, so I'm not concerned with how silly this is:



For the record, that's smeared ink on my toes, I didn't get this done with filthy feet! The curve of my foot makes it a little hard to read the first word, it says "Keep It Positronic" which is a play on words of 'Keep it posi', something you hear a lot among positive hardcore/punk music which I grew up on.

Originally Posted by johnnypark

Dude...that doesn't even look like data :(

Originally Posted by ITDEFX Dude...that doesn't even look like data :(

It looks more like Data and Wesley Crusher got combined during a horrible transporter accident if you ask me.

Oh and am I the only one to completely forget that there's been FOUR TNG movies already? Then again, I think I kinda intentionally forgot about the last twothree cuz I thought they sucked.

Originally Posted by davo1224 Didn't even realize that the movies were being talked about. I just spent the last week watching all of them, after having watched every episode. I hope that anyone who had a problem with the dune buggy scene also hated the hell out of all the early America time travel/holodeck episodes. Those are far more out of place and nonsensical (especially in their frequency) than an innocuous scene. Worse still were the Sherlock Holmes episodes.

Get out.

Originally Posted by ITDEFX Dude...that doesn't even look like data :(

I agree that he looks a bit younger or narrower in the face (which is extra ironic since Data doesn't age!). Thing is, the stencil looked perfect so I think some of the shading made a difference in a detrimental way.

That's why it's on my foot, though. Like I said, I wasn't going for photo-realism.

Originally Posted by IAmTheCheapestGamer It looks more like Data and Wesley Crusher got combined during a horrible transporter accident if you ask me.

Originally Posted by johnnypark I agree that he looks a bit younger or narrower in the face (which is extra ironic since Data doesn't age!). Thing is, the stencil looked perfect so I think some of the shading made a difference in a detrimental way. That's why it's on my foot, though. Like I said, I wasn't going for photo-realism.

What do you mean Data DOESN'T Age??!?! There was an episode that said he was programmed to age.

Originally Posted by IAmTheCheapestGamer It looks more like Data and Wesley Crusher got combined during a horrible transporter accident if you ask me.

Yeah.... my thoughts exactly....looks like someone's gonna be paying lots of $$$ to get that sucker removed. Come on, you could have done a Klingon symbol or even Worf.

Worf is always getting his advice denied.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edflm7Hh3hs

Yeah Picard did seem to enjoy verbally bitch slapping Worf.

Blu-ray looking nice: http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/01/05/st...clusive-video/

Originally Posted by Javery Blu-ray looking nice: http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/01/05/st...clusive-video/

whoa....

the reviews should be popping in sometime in the next two weeks I hope.

Also, I just started watching Season 3 the other night (I'm slowly making my way through everything) and other than Wesley Crusher's AWESOME haircut everything about Season 3 has been miles better than Season 1 and 2. Did something happen in between season like switching showrunners or head writers or something? It is so noticeable.

Originally Posted by Javery Also, I just started watching Season 3 the other night (I'm slowly making my way through everything) and other than Wesley Crusher's AWESOME haircut everything about Season 3 has been miles better than Season 1 and 2. Did something happen in between season like switching showrunners or head writers or something? It is so noticeable.

Seasons 3, 4 and 5 are the best ones, IMO. I think there was a writing change at that point, though who it was, I can't say.

Nice link to the BD article. I'm looking forward to seeing how good they can make it look, and I think they're taking the long way to do it but it shows that they want it to look good.

TOS on BD is very nice looking, though it was shot on film so it was easy to have BD make it look good. TNG, DS9 and Voyager weren't, so they have to go back and do the process they're doing on TNG to make it look better than some cheap upscale.

Yeah - I've seen every episode countless times but I don't recall ever watching them in order. It's interesting to see the progression.

The BD will be nice if everything comes out like that but I can't see myself spending a ton of money on it. I'd probably bite at $30 per season or $200 for the series...