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Originally Posted by dothog I'm a fan who is largely uninterested in re-releases across formats (VCR, DVD, Blu Ray, whatever the shit's on deck). But I'm willing to consider it as more than a novelty, and perhaps even consider a purchase, if you pack in extras like interviews, behind-the-scenes footage, never-before-seen/deleted scenes, "Director's Cuts," so on. So I'm probably completely on the other side of this issue from you.

Well directors/writers commentary would be nice... we are probably going to get a shit load of Okawa's(sp?) text commentaries, which is nice but can be distracting. Honestly I think the stuff written in the companion books are good enough.

Honestly which episodes need a DC? We don't need more of BOBW, SOTF or Inner Light. and Sub Rosa.

Originally Posted by ITDEFX Honestly which episodes need a DC? We don't need more of BOBW, SOTF or Inner Light. and Sub Rosa.

You're not providing much support for that. IMO anytime we can see more of a B (or C story) that was previously cut to fit for broadcast, I'm all for that. I can't begin to enumerate episodes, good and bad, across all seasons that had B-stories that would have otherwise been more worthwhile if they were given a few more scenes. (I don't see how timing/pacing has anything to do with it, I think we're talking about deleted content here and not alternate takes, right?)

I don't see how a TNG fan could possibly be against this. It's such an odd position to take. Maybe if you explained the position in more detail beyond just listing episodes.

Originally Posted by dothog You're not providing much support for that. IMO anytime we can see more of a B (or C story) that was previously cut to fit for broadcast, I'm all for that. I can't begin to enumerate episodes, good and bad, across all seasons that had B-stories that would have otherwise been more worthwhile if they were given a few more scenes. (I don't see how timing/pacing has anything to do with it, I think we're talking about deleted content here and not alternate takes, right?) I don't see how a TNG fan could possibly be against this. It's such an odd position to take. Maybe if you explained the position in more detail beyond just listing episodes.

Agreed. Otherwise, I'll stick with the Amazon streaming. Needs added value, and I consider DC better than slightly improved visuals.

http://www.fathomevents.com/classics...px?d=7/23/2012

Anyone going to that?

Originally Posted by Clak http://www.fathomevents.com/classics...px?d=7/23/2012 Anyone going to that?

I dunno, it's seems pricey to me... I'll just wait it out for the BR release.

Originally Posted by dothog I don't see how a TNG fan could possibly be against this. It's such an odd position to take.

I agree completely.

And yeah, Sub Rosa. But if there were deleted scenes, I actually would watch it again.

I agree that HD is the big draw. But HD isn't enough for me to want to watch a lot of these episodes again. I enjoyed seeing the stills for Code of Honor, but watching the episode? I have better things to do with my time.

That plays into a bit of reluctance with the new set. Yes, HD is wonderful, but I'm paying big bucks for episodes I have no intention of watching. Making them pretty won't help.

But, to see new scenes? That would be fascinating. Were there some good ideas in there that got cut? Was the episode a waste even with the deleted scenes? Would there be interesting tidbits that we missed out on because of time?

One of the magic things about DVD and Blu-Ray is that it's easy to present the viewer with both the original televised version and a version with the new scenes. It's trivial to do and doesn't take much effort or space. That way purists get the episodes as broadcast and archaeologists get to see additional footage.

For me, it would be a massive selling point to see something new in TNG and (hopefully) DS9. It would certainly get me off the fence. Heck, I'd probably preorder.

I really enjoy extra material, though I get it mainly through youtube. But it opens up so much, and it enriches a lot of internal debates over episodes or films.

Like the dune buggy discussion from earlier: when I saw the behind-the-scenes interview with Patrick Stewart on Nemesis and he's making it clear the buggies were his idea, that's something I absolutely had to see for myself to believe. I wouldn't have believed that had I read it somewhere or had anyone else told me, "Yeah, the buggies were PS's idea, not Berman's or the studio's." It's not that it made a difference in a big way in terms of my overall opinion of the movie. It's that there was value in seeing and hearing those words come out of his Shakespearean, buggy lovin' gob just settled that internal struggle about WTF is this buggy doing in my ST film?

The behind-the-scenes stuff on Trials and Tribbleations is another one that really enriches the episodes. It's such a fan favorite, and it's pandering in all the best ways, but when you watch those vids on the writing and production behind it, it makes you realize that it wasn't just "coasting" on technology, it was probably a career highlight for all of the production people involved. It doesn't make the episode more or less fun, it just adds that little bit that finalizes your opinion on the episode.

I'm talking a lot of BTS material, but deleted scenes, alternate takes, I love all that stuff. I think my favorite extras are usually interviews with writers, who seem more capable in discussing characters in a Big Picture way. Actors/producers tend to reduce things to scenes, whereas the writers are always eager to provide context.

Anyhow, if they include that on the TNG Blu Ray discs, I'm all over it. And not just on youtube, I might even consider picking up a couple of the stronger seasons if I found them on sale somewhere.

I am super stoked for the extra 20 (TWENTY) minutes of The Measure of a Man. That episode is just so great, and seeing more of it, even if it was deemed necessary to cut to fit airing restrictions, will be fantastic. And blandstalker already posted the excellent point that most TV series boxsets that do this show original and extended cuts. Seamless and effortless and pleases both parties. Opinions usually aren't wrong, but yours is ITDEFX, sorry.

Besides, there are no time slots on home video, so da rules. I want to see every single thing of TNG that was committed to the story and film. That would be amazing. Then throw in the damn bloopers why the hell not!

Here's a question that someone more experienced can answer. Didn't the Tosk from DS9 appear on TNG?

I remember an alien life form that was messing around with the crew and at the end of the episode, they locked them under a forcefield to teach them a lesson. Anyone remember this episode?

Originally Posted by davo1224 Here's a question that someone more experienced can answer. Didn't the Tosk from DS9 appear on TNG? I remember an alien life form that was messing around with the crew and at the end of the episode, they locked them under a forcefield to teach them a lesson. Anyone remember this episode?

ahhh no... similar design I think.... Michael Westmore did the aliens for the trek series.

Originally Posted by davo1224 Here's a question that someone more experienced can answer. Didn't the Tosk from DS9 appear on TNG? I remember an alien life form that was messing around with the crew and at the end of the episode, they locked them under a forcefield to teach them a lesson. Anyone remember this episode?

I believe you're thinking of this: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Allegiance

I'd only buy the Blu-Ray if they included all the TNG recuts on Youtube in 1080p.

Yup that's exactly what I was thinking of

The Galileo shuttlecraft from TOS sold at auction for $70,000-- Story



Thing looks like a hunk of junk now. Hard to believe someone would pony up that kind of cash for it in that condition!

Link to Auction , with more pictures and videos.

The thing has been restored twice already, is there anything original even on it?

That's a shame that it was preserved after all of these years. But I heard there was a group that was trying to win it so they could restore it and preserve it. Did they win the auction?

Originally Posted by Clak http://www.fathomevents.com/classics...px?d=7/23/2012 Anyone going to that?

I have to say though, if there's ever a Season 3 Yesterday's Enterprise/BOBW Theater experience... I'll be there.

Originally Posted by lordwow I have to say though, if there's ever a Season 3 Yesterday's Enterprise/BOBW Theater experience... I'll be there.

Yeah, those two episodes they picked aren't enough to get me into a theater. honeslty I've never cared for the first few seasons of any of the Trek shows really. It seems to always take until around season 3 before they really find their groove.

Also, I wonder if they'll update the Borg personal shield effects in the coming seasons? Cause the original effect was just to blur the actor out, then later on in First contact and Voyager the green force field type effect was used.

That is a good question. I won't be upset either way, though I prefer they keep the old effect. That can be explained as the Borg later improved their shield tech.

So do any Trekkies like the TNG movies? Only seems like casual fans appreciated them. I liked Generations, thought Insurrection was boring but not bad, absolutely hated First Contact, and turned my brain off for Nemesis.