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AURORA, Colo. — Sen. John Kerry spoke about the plight of the American worker when he traveled to Detroit earlier this week, a safe message for the blue-collar workers who build cars there.

So it was a little strange that the campaign picked as its press-pass logo for its Motor City tour the gleaming showcase car of a foreign auto company — Rolls-Royce — that makes cars priced far outside the financial reach of any middle-class voter.

"That's an insult to the auto worker, it's an insult to the American worker, it's an insult to mainstream America," said Sam Burwell from Corunna, Mich., a third-generation auto worker for General Motors. "It also shows who he's really in touch with: his European, elitist French friends and not Americans like me. A Rolls-Royce, for cryin' out loud."

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Asked about the press-pass logo, Kerry spokesman David Wade... criticized President Bush's economic policies.

"I could say that the Rolls-Royce is the perfect symbol of who got the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, but sometimes objects in the rearview mirror are closer than they appear," he said.

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I guess thats kind of like the boxes that said Made in China when Bush talked about keeping jobs in America.

Boy, you've sure become a one-trick pony lately, PittsburghAfterDark. If you make it to a custom rank be sure you make it "Pro-Republican News Reposter."

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Originally Posted by SS4Brolly Only 634 more posts!

It's an election year, so he will have plenty of ammo

That was a bad move by Kerry. But honestly any politician trying to relate to middle class voters in this election is insane. One of the only people who has room to talk is Edwards, because unlike Bush, Cheney, or Kerry he didnt grow up in a life of luxury.

Still you have to prove this is pretty witty even though I'm not fond of the guy:

""I could say that the Rolls-Royce is the perfect symbol of who got the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, but sometimes objects in the rearview mirror are closer than they appear," he said. "

PittsburghAfterDark, its good that you are hear to level the playing field. I have noticed that videogame posters tend to be bleeding heart liberals. I am not a conservative, but I am voting for Bush because I believe he is the lesser of two evils.

Strayfoxx, how is Bush the lesser of two evils when his presidency will go down as one of the worst we've had?

Originally Posted by ZarathosNY Strayfoxx, how is Bush the lesser of two evils when his presidency will go down as one of the worst we've had?

Please tell me what Kerry is going to do that Bush hasn't. Kerry will get the French and the Germans to be our friends again!! That's the only thing Kerry has a plan for.

The Democrats are always saying catching Osama is the biggest priority. What would Kerry do to get him? Kerry hasn't really said anything to that regard. Anytime he is asked anything about it he says, "I won't go in unilaterally. I'll get help from our allies the Germans and the French". What makes him think he can get them to do anything of worth? Don't tell me that Kerry has a WONDERFUL plan to get Osama and stabilize Iraq because he doesn't. If he had such a master plan and didn't present it to Congress the public would have his ass for holding out.

I tell you what, regardless of who wins maybe we shouldn't help the world with ANYTHING anymore. Let's see how they do on their own (and wait for the s*** to find our doorstep again).

Look at a few of the liberal entertainers in the world. Madonna (former author of the book SEX, now turned childrens author), Sean Penn (hothead actor), Johnny Depp (Kentuckian who thinks he is European), Dixie Chicks, Michael Moore. All of these people are the types that say accept me for who I am, I don't CARE what other people think about me. Now, if they don't care what others think, then why should we care what other countries think of the US? It is no different than what children are taught in school.

"You can't be worried if people don't like you. You can't please everyone all the time."

That being said, I don't agree with everything Rush or Hannity says, especially Rush. I'll be the first to admit that he blends truth with opinion. At least the democrats have a counterpart in Michael Moore in that regard.

I tell you this much, the Presidency is much like a parental role. Leaving politics out of the discussion, I'd much rather have my parent fight for me to protect me than have one who doesn't even know what the hell they would do.

Plus, if 9/11 is anyones fault, its clintons. He knew osama was trouble, and didnt do anything about it.

Originally Posted by BigNick Plus, if 9/11 is anyones fault, its clintons. He knew osama was trouble, and didnt do anything about it.

Nick, Nick, Nick. Please tell me you are kidding. Do a little research and you'll find that this completely backwards.

PAD, what does it matter if Kerry rides in a RR? When Bush came to Appleton, WI the other day he flew in a bunch of limos. I'll repeat that. Instead of maybe stimulating the local ecomomy, he FLEW in with Air Force One, and bunch of limos for him to drive. So my point it, limos, RR, who cares?

Originally Posted by ZForce915 Nick, Nick, Nick. Please tell me you are kidding. Do a little research and you'll find that this completely backwards. PAD, what does it matter if Kerry rides in a RR? When Bush came to Appleton, WI the other day he flew in a bunch of limos. I'll repeat that. Instead of maybe stimulating the local ecomomy, he FLEW in with Air Force One, and bunch of limos for him to drive. So my point it, limos, RR, who cares?

Thats straight out of his book. He knew osama was trouble.

Originally Posted by PittsburghAfterDark AURORA, Colo. — Sen. John Kerry spoke about the plight of the American worker when he traveled to Detroit earlier this week, a safe message for the blue-collar workers who build cars there. So it was a little strange that the campaign picked as its press-pass logo for its Motor City tour the gleaming showcase car of a foreign auto company — Rolls-Royce — that makes cars priced far outside the financial reach of any middle-class voter. "That's an insult to the auto worker, it's an insult to the American worker, it's an insult to mainstream America," said Sam Burwell from Corunna, Mich., a third-generation auto worker for General Motors. "It also shows who he's really in touch with: his European, elitist French friends and not Americans like me. A Rolls-Royce, for cryin' out loud." CONTINUED.... Asked about the press-pass logo, Kerry spokesman David Wade... criticized President Bush's economic policies. "I could say that the Rolls-Royce is the perfect symbol of who got the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, but sometimes objects in the rearview mirror are closer than they appear," he said. LINK

So what are we to make of this, given what you've said in other threads about improving the quality of discourse? Is this a tidbit meant to provide true thoughtful debate, or a pathetic little dig by GOP spinmeisters? If it's the latter, why are you bringing it up, given that you are dedicated to improving the quality of discourse? And if it's the former, what exactly are we debating? What policy matter hinges on this news brief?

Bush's limos are a bit, um, special. They are basically modified to take a grenade. Although when Bush went down M-59 here in MI the other week, either he was laying down in the back of a limo, or he was actually in one of the 3 Tanked out SUV's that drove by.

Originally Posted by BigNick Thats straight out of his book. He knew osama was trouble.

That's right. Plus Clinton ADMITTED that Sudan was going to hand him over and Clinton didn't take it. That's out of Clinton's own mouth.

I'd say 9/11 is the fault of a lot of people. Clinton and Bush for failing to act on information, Reagan for showing the world we'll cave to terrorists and for giving Bin Laden the arms and money to start his network, and maybe Carter too, if he was also responsible for giving Bin Laden arms and money.

Bad move by Kerry...don't these guys get it?

Nah, politicians are all fundamentally stupid. At least the ones that have a chance of winning anyway. I guess we like our elected officials to be as stupid as possible for whatever reason.

The problem is that politics in this country was originally a part time job. Now it is a full-time job and quite frankly there are too many representatives for each state. With that many people in a postition of power there are going to be abuses and stupidity. The governement needs to be scaled back but I don't really see how this can be accomplished.

Originally Posted by GuilewasNK That's right. Plus Clinton ADMITTED that Sudan was going to hand him over and Clinton didn't take it. That's out of Clinton's own mouth.

Sorry, but this is absolutely NOT true. this is a repub spin point. The truth iis that Sudan offered to send Bin Laden to Saudia Arabia and Clinton begged the Saudis to take him and they refused. The 9/11 commission debunked the whole "Sudan offered Bin laden to us" story

This is not the automobile market, but it is still Rolls-Royce.
- More Rolls-Royce engines built in the U.S. than anywhere else in the world

- 6,600 U.S. and 1,500 Canadian employees

- Facilities at 77 locations in 29 states and seven Canadian sites in six provinces

- $1.3 billion annually to U.S. vendors in 46 states and Washington, D.C., generating 15,000 additional U.S. jobs

- $250 million (Canadian) annually to Canadian vendors in five provinces, generating approximately 500 additional Canadian jobs

- Over $1 billion in exports

- $2.8 billion in annual sales

- Total U.S. investment, $1 billion and growing

- US interests hold approximately 35% of Rolls-Royce shares