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Cheapy, you and Wombat seem in an especially good mood this episode, good job!

To help clear it up Adam Sessler explains the Konami MGS4 stuff. The NDA seems fair considering Metal Gears history of having cool/surprising stuff but it's lame they were embarassed about load times and cut scenes.

http://kotaku.com/index.php?refId=5013306

I totally agree with Cheapy's assessment of LEGO Indiana Jones, yeah it's pretty much the same game as the star wars one. So thankfully that was a rental.

Thanks again for putting out a stellar cagcast! Two days of Wombat in a row, this is the sweet life :P

Originally Posted by udabenshen Jefferson would be considered a godless commie in todays standards (he owned a Koran!!!!)

I'd say that Jefferson was (in Dante's terms) a virtuous pagan.

Qore is the equivalent of Xbox Live Gold? Uh, no. Xbox Live Gold is a $50 requirement in order to play games online. You don't have to subscribe to Qore to play games online--or get the demos, themes, and videos that were already free. The free demos are still going up on the service--check the listings for this week.

It's really the same thing Sony did with Playstation Underground on the PS2. It was a subscription to a disc-based magazine that had exclusive content, demos, betas, etc. It was pretty sweet--I got into the SOCOM beta and scored a free network adapter as a result of the program.

Also--Veronica Belmont.



(oh, and I think Wombat meant that Major Nelson was on the "iFanboy" podcast, not "The Fanboys"--we wouldn't have him )

Originally Posted by mik Qore is the equivalent of Xbox Live Gold? Uh, no. Xbox Live Gold is a $50 requirement in order to play games online. You don't have to subscribe to Qore to play games online--or get the demos, themes, and videos that were already free. The free demos are still going up on the service--check the listings for this week. It's really the same thing Sony did with Playstation Underground on the PS2. It was a subscription to a disc-based magazine that had exclusive content, demos, betas, etc. It was pretty sweet--I got into the SOCOM beta and scored a free network adapter as a result of the program. Also--Veronica Belmont. (oh, and I think Wombat meant that Major Nelson was on the "iFanboy" podcast, not "The Fanboys"--we wouldn't have him )

Actually it was niether it was Fanboy Radio, sorry for the confusion

If UGO wants to be a major player in the internets it needs to learn to support firefox.

Originally Posted by mik Qore is the equivalent of Xbox Live Gold? Uh, no. Xbox Live Gold is a $50 requirement in order to play games online. You don't have to subscribe to Qore to play games online--or get the demos, themes, and videos that were already free. The free demos are still going up on the service--check the listings for this week. It's really the same thing Sony did with Playstation Underground on the PS2. It was a subscription to a disc-based magazine that had exclusive content, demos, betas, etc. It was pretty sweet--I got into the SOCOM beta and scored a free network adapter as a result of the program. Also--Veronica Belmont. (oh, and I think Wombat meant that Major Nelson was on the "iFanboy" podcast, not "The Fanboys"--we wouldn't have him )

Definantely not the equivalent of Xbox Live Gold. The 360 equivalent of this would be those Inside Xbox videos. Which are free for even Silver accounts. Qore is like paying for Sony advertisements.

On the next cagcast can Wombat spend the whole show talking about the chocolate buffet? My mouth was drooling from what I hear.

Damn you Wombat, you were in Boston?? we could've had a mini-CAG meetup or something. i could've shown you around downtown or something. oh well, maybe next time.

Cheapy, Path of the Acolyte???? ya WUSS! :P

FYI, The Konami event you guys mentioned was the one where some journalists played the entire MGS4 game in a retreat in Japan. Shane from EGM said it was like a big hotel except noone else was there except them. They also got to speak with Kojima face to face about their thoughts about the game.

Originally Posted by dsingh2007 To udabenshen, what is your problem with people who posses Korans and why the hell (ha ha) do you think "Jefferson would be considered a godless commie"? Stay in school and try to open your mind. .

I think it is called sarcasm


Wombat & Ms.- since you guys are so close remember this tip: the proteins in semen can trigger pregnancy when it has contacted with the cervix. So if Ms. Wombat is complaining about being pregnant you could always offer a sexy remedy.

the meat on that sandwich looks under cooked. oh and cheapy are u gonna get the iphone now that it has been announced for the iphone

Quick clarifier CheapyD and Wombat:

You guys are really offbase with your obviously uneducated take on Qore

This is not put on by SCEA or Sony!!! Its by Future Publishings, not Sony

you mentioned all the bad and NONE of the good, no mention of exclusive SOCOM Beta, no mention of Calling All Cars for free with supscription. No mention that you can obviously still play online for free.

How you can compare this XBOX Gold is ridiculous!

Its basically an online magazine, with exclusive content, for $25/year.

Yeah! cheapy and wombat make my Friday work days not so suckie! it's like sunday church.

On Gone Baby Gone though i thought the moral delima was BS. Cassie made the WRONG decision. I won't give anything away, but for those who've seen the movie, they will know what I mean. I couldn't believe that that was the big thing for the movie. i was glad i didn't spend any money to see the movie.

Originally Posted by smurfbob thanks man, i herd wombat in the podcast and had to come strait here to correct him... and i would like to add that the founding fathers were not actually christian in the way we think of christian, i dont remember what they were called ( it has been 2 years since i took history) but my professor described them as believing we were like a pin ball and god just pulled the little knob thingy but what ever happened after that was man's doing.... and also the pilgrims did come to america for religious freedom but not "more religion"..... there was plenty of religion in england..... but pilgrims were a part of a bigger group called Calvinist including pilgrims, puritans, and presbetarians. puritans wanted to purify the church of england... failed and left for the netherlands (this is why they are called the pennsylvania dutch) then settled in mass. and mygrated down to penn. and rhode island, pilgrams landed in the south and really did not do much beside b**** slap the american indians, and never learned about Presbyterians( except my whole family is presbetarian) ^my governor sucks^

The term you're looking for is Deist. Deism is the philosophy where one believes that the Creator manifested the physical universe, set it in motion, and no longer interferes.

On another history note, Pennsylvania Dutch is actually a corruption of Deutsch, referring to the settlers there who spoke German. These settlers were primarily Lutheran in origin while the Puritans and their ilk were Calvinist in origin.

The previous discussions of religious freedom have been pretty much correct. One of the primary reasons for putting religious freedom in the Constitution was not specific for the freedom to practice Christianity, or Judaism, or atheism, but so that Christian sects could have freedom from other Christian sects, who were, and in some ways still are, battling with each other. For example, IIRC, the Baptists were being discouraged by other Christian groups against spreading their religion to the slaves and they wanted to make sure that the government could not restrict how they spread their religion.

Sorry about all that, it's rare that I get to put my History BA to use on the Cheap Ass Gamer forum.

I wanted to thank CheapyD for using the intro music from Hero's Quest (Quest for Glory for those who know it from after the 1st edition). From that first synthesized slam of the dragon's claw, I was back in memory lane, recalling the days of playing that game as a kid on my Tandy 1000.

I noticed that you guys didn't mention Through The Fire And Flames getting 100% by iamchris4life on expert.

CheapyD, if you want to easily catch up to the Metal Gear story line here a site for you http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Wiki it has all the information you need and if you cut through the cut scenes i'm going to hit u over the head with a BAT! lol

Originally Posted by ShinAkumA21 CheapyD, if you want to easily catch up to the Metal Gear story line here a site for you http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Wiki it has all the information you need and if you cut through the cut scenes i'm going to hit u over the head with a BAT! lol

Cheapy can also check out Gametrailer's Metal Gear Retrospectives. They've done the series from the original MG game all the way up to MG: PO right now. they're fantastic even tho they skipped some details.

I have to chime in on the Marketplace content issue.

There's a notion in marketing called the 'Gruen transfer', named after the architect of the original mall. The theory is that malls are purposefully designed to disorient and confuse people. That's when you buy something else beyond what your original intent was. Why do you think all malls have anchor stores that don't have a direct line of sight? Why do people get lost in malls, or are unable to go directly to the store they want with negotiating escalators and passing by pretzel stands, sale signs and other goodies?

Now take this concept in the virtual shopping world. By getting lost in content; you might come across something in that big unorganized collection of media that is of interest to you. Buy it and you're succumbed to the ol' Gruen transfer.

I'm sure Microsoft knows this; I doubt they'll completely 'organize' their content so you can concisely pick what you want. It's bad business.