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Old 12-27-2009, 03:44 PM   #2241
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I got started a little while ago. The game is great but wow is it hard. I lost well over 3k XP due to a little slip up when the phone rang and I tried to pick it up while walking some planks in 5-1. Then yesterday I played while I was a little sleepy and walked off the edge of another place. It reminds me of an MMO in that you cant pause it and you have to hide your body while you go take a piss or what not. Also these bastages who leave misleading signs can go to hell. I puzzled over one for a long time thinking it was trying to tell me how to get down to a set of souls for some nice XP. I kept trying to drop down but dieing thinking I was landing long.
Only 3K? Wait till you lose 100K my friend . As for the hiding thing, well, I've never played an MMO but I think it is different in one respect - you can simply clear the enemies out of a small area and then sit there with no problem so it isn't quite as bad as it seems. That is assuming you aren't playing in body form and getting invaded of course. But I never play in body form so I don't worry about it.

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I will also kill the man who thought to put the Crystal Gecko in 4-2 on the ledge by the Black Samurai Skeleton. I can't get a Pure Darkmoonstone to save my life (last thing I need for a +5 Crescent).
Don't the geckos at the end of world 4 (the ones out past the 4-4 archstone) drop those like candy? It seems like I got 3 or 4 from them. I kept getting them while I was trying to get something else (the ones for the shield). The clearstone is the impossible one and thankfully a CAG let me borrow their clearstone weapon.

I finally got back into this again last night. I finsihed off my second playthrough (the arrow trick on the false king worked like a charm by the way), blew through 1-1, and then did all of world 2 (thank god for the shortcut past all the lava worms in 2-2 - though I suppose I still have to back there to get Patches). Hopefully I can get through world 3 again tonight, then free Yuria so I can finish off my spells. Then I just have to figure out which weapons I need and hopefully meet up with Saint Noir to get the two that would require a fourth playthrough. I love the game but with 130 hours into it already I'm growing weary of it. The 3-4 week break I took helped a bit as it was fun to get back into it (though I had already forgotten how to do some stuff!).

Hopefully there's some DLC on the way or news of a sequel!

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Old 12-27-2009, 04:02 PM   #2242
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I can't get a Pure Darkmoonstone to save my life (last thing I need for a +5 Crescent).
I have no idea what level you are at, but if you can't get one and need one, I have a few spares I think.

io, just tell me when you are ready and we can meet up.
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:18 PM   #2243
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Don't the geckos at the end of world 4 (the ones out past the 4-4 archstone) drop those like candy? It seems like I got 3 or 4 from them. I kept getting them while I was trying to get something else (the ones for the shield). The clearstone is the impossible one and thankfully a CAG let me borrow their clearstone weapon.
Yeah, they have a chance to as well. I was reading the DS wiki, and it had a qualifier by the ones in 4-3 (7+ luck, which I have, and a LSS, which I don't have) but 4-2 was by itself. I think I've already maxed out the gecko spawns on the 4-2 ledge, so I'll have to give 4-3 another shot. I also spend a lot of time in 4-2, since Thirst + Ring of Avarice give me something like 32k souls in about a minute and a half from the first Reaper and Black Samurai Skeleton, so I have much more experience with that damn gecko.

@Saint: Thanks for the offer, though I'm betting you're a bit over my head currently. I'm only SL 138 right now (hooray I'm almost 20% ), but I'm gonna try to see if I can get it myself. While I'm not opposed to a handout, in every game (or DEFINITELY in MMOs) I try to earn pretty much everything myself. Some stupid combination of pride, stubborness, and OCD must fuel that desire.
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:28 PM   #2244
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@Saint: Thanks for the offer, though I'm betting you're a bit over my head currently. I'm only SL 138 right now (hooray I'm almost 20% ), but I'm gonna try to see if I can get it myself. While I'm not opposed to a handout, in every game (or DEFINITELY in MMOs) I try to earn pretty much everything myself. Some stupid combination of pride, stubborness, and OCD must fuel that desire.
No worries. I think I stopped at about 150, so you aren't really out of range. If you change your mind, just let me know. That one isn't too bad as the end of 4-3 has 2 chances per go. Just don't go out to them until after you've killed everything around (including boss) and make sure to use Large Sword of Searching if you have it.
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:39 PM   #2245
Can't believe this thread is still alive. Not that I'm complaining!

My backlog is so huge there is no way I could be able to go through this game again. If I did though I'd go mage. Still gotta finish up Dragon Age, START Assassins Creed 2, and finish up Uncharted 1 & 2, and UT3. Jesus.
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:24 PM   #2246
Took down the fat man and the tower knight. Also killed two sparkling lizards. Today was good day for the forces of good. Unfortunately I was also invaded for the first time and was bashed to ground. I caught something I didn't know how to get rid of. Would have died anyway since I wasn't doing all that much damage.
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Old 12-28-2009, 01:13 AM   #2247
I have barely touched into this game... Been addicted to the PSP. MONSTER HUNTER IS EATING MY SOUL!

I'll have to delve deeper into this game. It seems like a cool game though.
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:25 AM   #2248
I am having the hardest time farming to stones to get those trophies. Forgot to get the last miracle before talking to the old one.
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:31 AM   #2249
Just got this for Xmas and so far I love it, though I haven't gotten too far. I tried several times last night to kill Miralda but I just wasn't able to. Maybe I'm not strong enough (Soul Level 18 I think?) but now the pure white WT is over so I guess I missed my chance. How often does the WT go to pure white or pure black when there's not a specific server event?

I also read the wiki a bit and realized I must have let Ostrava die, though I never saw him. Maybe he suicided or some fire killed him before I could do anything. I see why people seem to NG+ on this more than other RPGs - there's so much to do (and miss!)
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Old 12-28-2009, 01:14 PM   #2250
You pretty much determine your own World Tendency. Check out the wiki's section on World Tendency, specifically the 'How do I change it?' portion. Really seems like you'll need quite a few Stones of Ephemeral Eyes if you want Pure Black. I'm hoping they keep doing events like these throughout the next year, as they're pretty useful, and give me a lot of incentive to keep coming back.

And Ostrava really isn't that important. If you got the Mausoleum Key from wherever he died, then you're fine. He does give you a few items if you keep him alive throughout the world, but nothing urgent enough in your first playthrough.
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Old 12-28-2009, 01:45 PM   #2251
Oh, I thought you determined your own character tendency but that World Tendency was somehow affected by other players to some degree. Good to know.

Also, I didn't get the Mausoleum Key since I never saw Ostrava. From what I read, if he dies you can only get the key on your next visit to 1-1, and if you go back to the Nexus without it, it's gone forever. Oh, well. I can't even seem to find where he used to be, actually (somewhere in the lefthand staircase, it seems?).

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Old 12-28-2009, 02:18 PM   #2252
I'm using the magic Makoto sword paired with the regeneration ring at the moment. I just annihilated the False Idol and the Leechmonger.
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:41 PM   #2253
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Oh, I thought you determined your own character tendency but that World Tendency was somehow affected by other players to some degree. Good to know.

Also, I didn't get the Mausoleum Key since I never saw Ostrava. From what I read, if he dies you can only get the key on your next visit to 1-1, and if you go back to the Nexus without it, it's gone forever. Oh, well. I can't even seem to find where he used to be, actually (somewhere in the lefthand staircase, it seems?).
If you never saw him, he's still alive. In 1-1, he's standing on like a gallows surrounded by enemies.
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Old 12-28-2009, 05:19 PM   #2254
Hmm, does he still show up after I beat Phalanx? Maybe he didn't die but I missed my chance to save him. Anyway, I'd still like to get the Thief's Ring if that's there - where is this gallows thing?
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Old 12-28-2009, 05:47 PM   #2255
He shows up in the entire World 1 areas so long as you save him in World 1-1 through 1-3. If you don't save him in 1-1, then he will not show up for the others. As for the gallows, at the top of the keep where you face the blue-eyed knight, go through the fog, and head down stairs. You should see him on the north eastern area that is a bit below you, just jump over the low castle wall to get to him. If you want to make sure he doesn't die, just follow him until the paths he walks are entirely clear of enemies. Only then, he will be truly safe for that area.

~Hilarious invasion moment on 3-2. I got bored playing offline so I summoned a blue phantom to coop with me through the tower areas. This guy had almost the same build as me so we talked for a bit through PM. I then received a message that my game was being invaded (seriously, who invades on 3-2? lol) so the blue phantom and I rushed to the BP spawn point. We knew he was coming for us so we both equipped thief and grave robber rings and waited for him underneath the walkway where he had to jump off. As soon as he did came down from the fall, we both blasted him with dual Firestorms and we laughed as his charred body fell to the abyss.

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Old 12-28-2009, 06:16 PM   #2256
Ah, I was looking in entirely the wrong place. Thanks for the help guys!

Edit: Found him and rescued him in 1-1. Although after he thanked me he wandered out of the courtyard and down the hall while I was busy looting the bodies. By the time I caught up to him it looked like he was fighting some knights and I was afraid they were going to kill him, so I jumped into the fight and instead I died. Then I really thought he died, but I found him again in 1-2 and rescued him there, so I guess he was ok.

Interestingly, in 1-2 I followed him down the hall (inside the wall where you find him). He went up the stairs and I followed him. He went up to the top of that first tower (where there's some sort of knight and the two crossbowmen). I fought next to him against the knight, and then we each killed a crossbowman. However, when I turned around, he had disappeared. I suppose I'll find him again in 1-3.

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Old 12-28-2009, 11:18 PM   #2257
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He shows up in the entire World 1 areas so long as you save him in World 1-1 through 1-3. If you don't save him in 1-1, then he will not show up for the others. As for the gallows, at the top of the keep where you face the blue-eyed knight, go through the fog, and head down stairs. You should see him on the north eastern area that is a bit below you, just jump over the low castle wall to get to him. If you want to make sure he doesn't die, just follow him until the paths he walks are entirely clear of enemies. Only then, he will be truly safe for that area.

~Hilarious invasion moment on 3-2. I got bored playing offline so I summoned a blue phantom to coop with me through the tower areas. This guy had almost the same build as me so we talked for a bit through PM. I then received a message that my game was being invaded (seriously, who invades on 3-2? lol) so the blue phantom and I rushed to the BP spawn point. We knew he was coming for us so we both equipped thief and grave robber rings and waited for him underneath the walkway where he had to jump off. As soon as he did came down from the fall, we both blasted him with dual Firestorms and we laughed as his charred body fell to the abyss.
That is pretty good....the last guy who invaded me was while I was doing (dying) 4-1 on NG+. The thing is, I completely forgot about to equip (weapons/armor) for being invaded...but was smart enough to have banishment as my miracle. Grave robber ring and banishment and poof. Actually I missed it twice, but ran back to the jail cell and waited. You would have thought he knew what I was doing after that since NOTHING went off at him and his meat cleaver. I can probably still hear him cursing now.
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Old 12-30-2009, 04:18 AM   #2258
Just beat the game today. I made it to about soul level 95 when I finished. I summoned Phantoms quite often for bosses, but the levels were plenty challenging. I honestly don't think I'll do a NG+, but who knows.
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Old 12-30-2009, 10:11 AM   #2259
I got invaded for the first time last night. I had just beat the Tower Knight and was happy to get my body back. So I went to 2-1 and bam, got a message I was being invaded. Honestly I was a litle surprised since I'm not far into the game at all (only SL 20 I think) and my impression was that this is something generally for higher level characters. Some people just like PvP I guess.

Anyway, I can say that it made me more nervous/on edge than anything so far in the game. My heart bpm probably doubled He ended up killing me cause I wasn't sure exactly what to do (as far as where to wait, how to attack, etc). I actually did get him down to almost dead but he managed to heal himself and just had better melee equipment and stats I think (my character is more of a mage, though my only spells so far are Soul Arrow and the basic Fire spell). So I ended up dying. Ah, well.
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:02 PM   #2260
Is there any way to check your online rating? I had my first experiences as a blue phantom last night. The first time, I accidentally fell off the elevator to my death very quickly after being summoned; did the summoner still get to rate me? (I hope not, as he probably would have given me an F). The second time I managed to help the summoner beat the boss, and I was wondering what rating he gave me.

Edit: Sorry about all the questions. As you can probably tell, I am excited about this game in a way that I haven't been by other games in a very long time. I'm trying to only ask questions here that I couldn't find the answer to on the wiki.
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