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Originally Posted by 007 Now, this has likely already been discussed, but what about games that are improved by installation, but not in the case of load times? Civ. Revolution was the game that caught my eye... sure, the load times are the same, but the game RUNS much better. It has a lot less stutter and slowdown during gameplay. Just throwing that out there.

In the case/event where load times are the same but performance improves, i will still go off of the load times simply because stuttering/framerate issues, etc. could be the result of many things such as needing to clear your cache, scratches/smudges on the disc, or even the DVD drive itself. I'm currently working on an improved list with load times as well as actual noted performance improvements. you can see the WIP HERE. The list will also be sectioned off alphabetically by using comments and letting users select which letter they want to start looking at first (ex. A - B - C -....X - Y - Z) along with other small improvements.

Splinter Cell Double Agent

DVD:
From dashboard until press start - 0:21
Loading solo mode - 0:23
Loading last save on level China/Shanghai - 0:44

HDD:
From dashboard until press start - 0:14
Loading solo mode - 0:16
Loading last save on level China/Shanghai - 0:36

Originally Posted by metalgearray Splinter Cell Double Agent DVD: From dashboard until press start - 0:21 Loading solo mode - 0:23 Loading last save on level China/Shanghai - 0:44 HDD: From dashboard until press start - 0:14 Loading solo mode - 0:16 Loading last save on level China/Shanghai - 0:36

Thanks.

Skate 2 = 6.8 GB

Originally Posted by Mojimbo Skate 2 = 6.8 GB

damn i only have 4.0 gb left. Unless i can delete some demos. Damn. Does it help any? Seems like when using the high camera i got a lot of framerate issues. I hope installing helps this.

Originally Posted by Mojimbo Skate 2 = 6.8 GB

Thanks, keep the new games coming If you get a chance, test the performance

I installed Skate 2, and from when you "start career" after it logs into ea and all that jazz, it takes 15 seconds to load the game. Not sure how long it takes when not installed.

Afro Samurai - 3.4GB - BLUE
DVD
Title to Mission 1: 10 seconds
Mission 1 to Mission 2: 13 seconds

HDD
Title to Mission 1: 8 seconds
Mission 1 to Mission 2: 10 seconds

Noticed you didn't have performance updated for three games I know of. The two Scene It? games did not improve much if at all. The same goes for Lost: Via Domus so you can color those games White.

Originally Posted by MJF V1 Noticed you didn't have performance updated for three games I know of. The two Scene It? games did not improve much if at all. The same goes for Lost: Via Domus so you can color those games White.

Could you by chance get some numbers? I'm assuming you did, hence why you said White, but numbers are always nice

Originally Posted by dumlaox Afro Samurai - 3.4GB - BLUE DVD Title to Mission 1: 10 seconds Mission 1 to Mission 2: 13 seconds HDD Title to Mission 1: 8 seconds Mission 1 to Mission 2: 10 seconds

Strongly disagree. After the first mission, when it cuts to a cutscene, on the DVD it's instantaneous. With the HDD, there was a 10-15 second load time. Same between the "You've been wounded" cutscene to "Afro!".. I'll test again, but load times are quicker on the DVD for me.

Hey everyone, I just joined so I could help you guys out with some of the games. I went through some and here's what I have.

Mirrors Edge: You can color this BLUE. It takes about 15 to 16 seconds to load up a level, but installed it's about 10, 11, or 12. I also tried out the long elevator rides, and that dropped from 20 seconds when uninstalled, to about 16 seconds when installed.

Perfect Dark Zero: You can color this GREEN. When uninstalled, it takes about 20 seconds to load up a mission. But when it's installed, it drops to about 12 to 14 seconds.

Devil May Cry 4: You can color this WHITE. The standard loading screens are only about 2 to 3 seconds each. When I installed it, it went down by just one second, so no big difference there.

Kameo Elements of Power: You can color this BLUE. When uninstalled, it took about 10 to 11 seconds to load up a file. And when going into a different area, it took about 8 to 11 seconds to load, depending on the area. While installed, it took about 7 seconds to load a file, and 5 to 7 seconds when going into a different area.

Blue Dragon: You can color this GREEN. When uninstalled, it took about 18 to 19 seconds to load a file, and about 6 to 7 seconds when either entering locations, or exiting to the world map. When I had it installed, I was suprised. It took 10 seconds to load up a file, around 4 seconds when entering locations and exiting to the world map, AND the frame rate was nicely improved, which made battles much smoother without the usual frame rate drops when using a charged attack.

Anyway, I hope this information is helpful, thanks everyone for the list so far.

Originally Posted by Judge Jamster Hey everyone, I just joined so I could help you guys out with some of the games. I went through some and here's what I have. Mirrors Edge: You can color this BLUE. It takes about 15 to 16 seconds to load up a level, but installed it's about 10, 11, or 12. I also tried out the long elevator rides, and that dropped from 20 seconds when uninstalled, to about 16 seconds when installed. Perfect Dark Zero: You can color this GREEN. When uninstalled, it takes about 20 seconds to load up a mission. But when it's installed, it drops to about 12 to 14 seconds. Devil May Cry 4: You can color this WHITE. The standard loading screens are only about 2 to 3 seconds each. When I installed it, it went down by just one second, so no big difference there. Kameo Elements of Power: You can color this BLUE. When uninstalled, it took about 10 to 11 seconds to load up a file. And when going into a different area, it took about 8 to 11 seconds to load, depending on the area. While installed, it took about 7 seconds to load a file, and 5 to 7 seconds when going into a different area. Blue Dragon: You can color this GREEN. When uninstalled, it took about 18 to 19 seconds to load a file, and about 6 to 7 seconds when either entering locations, or exiting to the world map. When I had it installed, I was suprised. It took 10 seconds to load up a file, around 4 seconds when entering locations and exiting to the world map, AND the frame rate was nicely improved, which made battles much smoother without the usual frame rate drops when using a charged attack. Anyway, I hope this information is helpful, thanks everyone for the list so far.

Very helpful, thanks

Originally Posted by SynGamer Could you by chance get some numbers? I'm assuming you did, hence why you said White, but numbers are always nice

Sorry I didn't have numbers, I kinda played by eye. I will get you official numbers sometime this coming week as well as numbers on a few other games you need info on, my weekend is pretty packed.

Im gonna test out Bully SE for you, im not going to do the same screens over and over though, but ill give you ideas of what go down on loading times. if thats okay.

Like right now, im playing it off the CD, sometimes it takes up to 20 seconds to load on main things, but on smaller stuff *in game loading wise* it takes around 10 seconds, sometimes maybe 12 seconds.

Bully is a Solid BLUE, the game only loads scenes about 2 to 3 seconds faster then before on everything.

Originally Posted by Dr. Pizza Bully is a Solid BLUE, the game only loads scenes about 2 to 3 seconds faster then before on everything.

Thanks.

I also added NBA 2K8 to the list (Not Supported).

Originally Posted by jaybird I was curious if it'd work so I tried the Compilation disk that came with my 360 Arcade - it's surprisingly huge at 5.9 GB, but does install.

I was surprised and angry at the size as well. They have the 1+GB "Welcome" video on here, plus a bunch of other stupid demos.

Will the Arcade Comp. actually play from the HDD? If so, which way did you do it? By selecting "Play from Hard Drive" for the Arcade disc, or by directly selecting the arcade game you wanted to play from the game list?

My disc was spinning when I was playing the arcade games(after install to HDD and choosing to play the comp disc from HDD).

Originally Posted by manthing Did the installation insert all of the demos in your games list like the disc does?

If I reinstall the image to HDD (deleted it cause I didn't think "Play from HDD" was working, I will see if the demos still show up, even when the disc isn't in the tray.

I'd put Tales of Vesperia in the blue category. You mainly notice the difference when the logo pops up in the corner in some places and says Now Loading. Without an install, it's usually there for 5-7 seconds. With an install, that screen is there for 2-3.

Quick question. I need to make room to install Fallout 3, so that means deleting some stuff. If I delete some game addon content, lets say CoD4 map pack or GoW2 Flashback maps, would I be able to re-download them later if I need them? IIRC, everything you download is tied to your account?