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Originally Posted by JasonTerminator ... There's auction houses in every major city in Azeroth. None in Outland or Northrend, but every city in Azeroth has them. Both before and after the shattering.

There is an auction house in Dalaran now which is in Northrend.

So they changed the engineering only auctioneers...

Stop nerfing engineering, Blizz!

As for the guild, there were talks of it a few months ago, possibly starting one when Cata comes out, but the major problem is figuring out which server and which faction.

I still feel that a pacific server would be best for most people to deal with the time difference. And horde, of course.

Originally Posted by Dogpatch If anyone is on the fence about coming back to WoW, now is probably a good time. The revamp of all the old zones definitely help out the leveling from 1-60. Some areas are still blah, but the majority of it is alot better. Leveling a dwarf shaman and enjoying it. Though I did not need another alt :P As for Hiccupleftovers question, from what I hear for lvl 85 on beta, mages are going fire spec. Though some enjoying frost. Seems the divide for raid specs is narrowing down abit. Arcane was pretty much the raid spec for the last expansion. You can pretty much go with the spec you enjoy now. There will always be people theorycrafting on what is best spec, but its alot closer now it seems. I enjoyed frost on my mage, but raid in arcane. Never really tried fire. Might play with it a bit since the toon is dual specced. The talent revisions of the last patch really screwed up the scaling for everyone. Blizz set it up to scale for 85 correctly. Kinda messed with the levels beneath that. Though they just corrected the 1-79 scaling I think.

To the first part of your post, I know you can just sit and wait for a dungeon group and then spam that extremely quickly to get multiple levels practically instantly. I did that on one of my alts starting at lvl 60 and managed to get him to level 62 after doing just two dungeon raids. It was so ing sick because I remember how long it took me to grind on my other characters once I hit 60.

Yeah, I ended up reading around, and like you said, a lot of people were mentioning Fire spec as the one to go for, especially for quick and easy leveling, so that's what I ended up going with for the time being. I can always dual spec/add another spec, but I've always been a fan of the Fire mage.

Also, I thought I would just throw this in at the bottom of my post. I love how whoever did this managed to get this to be the number video result on google for "cataclysm flying mount"

Originally Posted by hiccupleftovers To the first part of your post, I know you can just sit and wait for a dungeon group and then spam that extremely quickly to get multiple levels practically instantly. I did that on one of my alts starting at lvl 60 and managed to get him to level 62 after doing just two dungeon raids. It was so ing sick because I remember how long it took me to grind on my other characters once I hit 60

They nerfed quest xp from dungeon quests in a recent patch, so this isn't quite as true as it was.

A shame, as I easily got levels very quickly spamming the dungeon finder as well. I suppose it's for the best, as the new zone quests really are quite good.

Over 500,000 people in line to use battle.net account services...

Well, I got in after 30 minutes despite it claiming it would take over 7 hours.

Cause I am stupid I am getting this game again, I got a hunter to 80 and then stopped cause I got a full time job. I still have said job, but I still have lots of free time at night, and I can't really sleep anyway. So if anyone wants a crappy player let me know what server to join.

yeah i stopped when icc was released but recently started up again in preperation for cata.

Originally Posted by hiccupleftovers Also, I thought I would just throw this in at the bottom of my post. I love how whoever did this managed to get this to be the number video result on google for "cataclysm flying mount"

It's a glitch and it happened when TBC launched as well. I remember being able to fly all the way to the end boss in Sethekk Halls because it would sometimes not dismount you when you entered. We exploited the hell out of this and got our leveling group full gear from him before they fixed it. Just too bad it was fixed by the time our druids had their quest in there where the mount would drop.

Everyone ready for Cataclysm? Here's what I like to call my Cataclysm Launch Kit for my all nighter:



I only took off work tomorrow, I'm starting to think I should have taken off at least Wednesday too.

Originally Posted by tcrash247 Everyone ready for Cataclysm? Here's what I like to call my Cataclysm Launch Kit for my all nighter: I only took off work tomorrow, I'm starting to think I should have taken off at least Wednesday too.

I didn't go as far as calling off work (was afraid my day would be wasted with unstable service), but I think I'm a little more than ready, I got a copy of the Regular and Collector's Edition arriving tomorrow. No idea what I'm going to do with one or the other yet.

Originally Posted by helmet I didn't go as far as calling off work (was afraid my day would be wasted with unstable service), but I think I'm a little more than ready, I got a copy of the Regular and Collector's Edition arriving tomorrow. No idea what I'm going to do with one or the other yet.

Sucks Blizz didnt offer a digital download version of the CE and they just mail you the CE contents when the game is released. It's the only reason I havent pre-ordered it thru Blizzard.

My CE from Amazon will probably show up Tomorrow or Wednesday, and I've gotta say that getting some beef jerky and soda sounds nice. I wish beef jerky would be cheaper though.

I'm honestly not in a huge rush to play day one anyway, judging from past launches, the zones are terrible to play in until a week or so from launch. I'll probably install it, watch the DVD and play the 51 pally I'm working on, if I play WoW at all.

Originally Posted by JasonTerminator I'm honestly not in a huge rush to play day one anyway, judging from past launches, the zones are terrible to play in until a week or so from launch. I'll probably install it, watch the DVD and play the 51 pally I'm working on, if I play WoW at all.

I'm in the same boat. I'm really debating after tonight, not playing until after the weekend. And if I do play, its probably going to level up my level 50ish Troll druid. Maybe I'll just buy the new flying speed and explore zones, and not do one freaking quest all weekend.

I was excited for the expansion but got really burned out a few months ago and haven't played much at all besides some dailies and the AH. Now I'll probably wait to play Cataclysm until after holiday break. That and I really don't have any money to buy it either :(

Originally Posted by JasonTerminator They nerfed quest xp from dungeon quests in a recent patch, so this isn't quite as true as it was. A shame, as I easily got levels very quickly spamming the dungeon finder as well. I suppose it's for the best, as the new zone quests really are quite good.

How badly was it nerfed? I was just on say 3-4 days ago and was gunning through xp spamming one of my alt (lvl 60) mage characters. Literally got 3 levels done on 2 dungeon raids. Took like 20-30 minutes. Never had it go so fast before.

also, if you're looking to come back into the game, or play on a fun server, Bronzebeard is awesome.

What's the best zone to go to now for lvl 60 or so characters?

I wish I could have downloaded the CE and had them send me the contents as well, that way, since I'm east coast, I don't have to sit around for 3 hours waiting for servers to go live. And yes, beef jerky is way too expensive, I only buy it on special occasions. I tried to take a nap to get at least some sleep but I just laid in bed awake for 3 hours, bleh.

I decided to try and play at launch because I haven't before and I had a vacation day to burn. so what the hell, I'll try it out.

To hiccup, your only choice at 60 through 70 is to level in Outland. You only get 10% of normal experience when you kill Azeroth mobs when you're above 60, mmo champion has a post about it.

Originally Posted by tcrash247 Everyone ready for Cataclysm? Here's what I like to call my Cataclysm Launch Kit for my all nighter: I only took off work tomorrow, I'm starting to think I should have taken off at least Wednesday too.

I sure do wish I could do the same, but I'm stuck with a college final exam tomorrow mid-morning. It's slightly ironic that my last exam I have to go in for, the only one during launch week, is Computer Ethics taught by a former WoW player (now he's on SC2 and New Vegas). 'Course if I wasn't such a procrastinator I could've had my studying and final paper done already and just play through the morning and take 2 hours out of my game time to attend the exam, but as I said, such a procrastinator (unless I can somehow burn through the paper in the next 4 hours!).

I'd say you're all welcome to come to my realm of Skullcrusher, where we Horde outnumber the Alliance something like 3 to 1, but honestly I'm part of a small guild that is pvp centric, and the realm is full of absolute knobs other than those in my circle that I deal with. But if you want to murder alliance with extreme prejudice out in world PvP, this is your place.

Originally Posted by Shinpachi I'd say you're all welcome to come to my realm of Skullcrusher, where we Horde outnumber the Alliance something like 3 to 1, but honestly I'm part of a small guild that is pvp centric, and the realm is full of absolute knobs other than those in my circle that I deal with. But if you want to murder alliance with extreme prejudice out in world PvP, this is your place.

I remember back in the day, a group of mine ran to BFD and we ran into an night elf 10 levels higher than us, and that was a challenge, and fun. But a bunch of dudes just ganking somebody with no shot of winning seems like you're just being a bunch of dicks.

Originally Posted by JasonTerminator I remember back in the day, a group of mine ran to BFD and we ran into an night elf 10 levels higher than us, and that was a challenge, and fun. But a bunch of dudes just ganking somebody with no shot of winning seems like you're just being a bunch of dicks.

Oh don't misunderstand, we're not like my professor (he reveled in ganking lowbies). Rather, we assert dominance over those who by all means should be equal opponents. Sure, I may take a pot shot at a lowbie here and there, but for the most part if they give me a /scared, /beg, /salute, whatever, then I'll let them go on their merry way. It's when someone ganks US that we let our rage-filled sadistic tendencies to the surface. We make them regret their hubris, and indeed I think most of us have had an alliance log over at some point or another to either bitch us out, compliment our thorough ravaging of their city (true story, he thought there was at least twice as many of us as there really were), or apologize and beg us to leave them be.

I cannot wait to go leveling, it never fails that most people silly enough to jump me don't bother to level with a PvP trinket on, and never expect me to be wearing one.

I go now into the maw of death, to sell people their Cataclysms. I'm hoping it goes better than Lich King, where we had about 15 calls for battletoads, people threatening to throw a brick through our window if we didn't stay open till 2 and our CC machines dying.

Hopefully it'll be a fun time. I will be messing with people and demanding gearscore checks at the door.