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2. Can any extra fans be added to the case?

Originally Posted by Duo_Maxwell 2) The parents' computer PSU is dying a terribly loud death i think. Literally runs the fan like it's pulling a full load all the time and doesn't ever stop. They have a fairly old HP (like 2008 maybe), but I am probably going to swap out the PSU for a decent Antec I have that is extra. However given that their HP case has god awful airflow, dvd door sometimes sticks, etc. I was thinking about just throwing it all in a new case as I could probably get a decent one for $30-50. Anyone done this before? worth it? It looks like some of the headers for front USB and so forth maybe proprietary which is no fun...

I don't know if it's worth it. OEM computers from HP etc. usually have stuff you don't expect to find, which makes moving it to a normal case a pain in the ass. You'll probably have to do a lot of little stuff, like replacing the cables to the hard drive, cause they might have mounted the HDD so close to the motherboard that the cable in use is like an inch long, and stuff of that sort.

Your best bet is to probably clean 5 years of dust out of it, and replace the PSU with something cheap. Any more money than that, and you might as well buy a new one.

Originally Posted by Mako1215 2. Can any extra fans be added to the case?

To the HP case? No I don't think so. There is a side vent that I could maybe mod and put a fan on, but nothing made for it. I cleaned it out then muddled around doing some testing and it seems like all the components and everything in the case stays relatively cool. But for some reason, even right after a cold boot up the PSU sounds like a helicopter is getting ready to take off from their office.

Originally Posted by elessar123 I don't know if it's worth it. OEM computers from HP etc. usually have stuff you don't expect to find, which makes moving it to a normal case a pain in the ass. You'll probably have to do a lot of little stuff, like replacing the cables to the hard drive, cause they might have mounted the HDD so close to the motherboard that the cable in use is like an inch long, and stuff of that sort. Your best bet is to probably clean 5 years of dust out of it, and replace the PSU with something cheap. Any more money than that, and you might as well buy a new one.

Yeah that seems to be the case as the front usb/firewire/audio etc appear to have a connector that's exclusive to the HP case & mobo. Memory card reader is also not a typcial 5.25 bay. I've thought about telling them to just get a new one, but I don't think they are yet savvy enough for Windows 8... I'll just throw the extra Antec PSU I have in there and wait for something else to go bad in it, replace the whole PC and reclaim my Antec PSU then. I'm fairly certain the Antec will outlast the HP computer at this point.


Edit: Anyone have any opinions on question 1? A 1gb GTX 570 vs. a 1gb Radeon HD 7850 (neither is overclocked I don't think)?

I game about 20 hours a week but I also do a lot of work with Excel and Access. I'll play on and off a few different games; Skyrim, Civ V, Torchlight II and Starcraft II among a few others.

I'm about 90% done putting my new rig together. i7 3770k + 2 EVGA 670 FTW 2G SLI

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/F9Fy

This machine replaces a three year old i5 2.66 Ghz with an HSI 5770 card that has served me pretty well.

The Corsair 650D case is larger (taller) than I expected but pretty sweet.

Almost ready to install Windows 7..maybe tomorrow after work. I don't think is is as much fun to do as when I was younger. I'm still in possession of a Packard Bell 486 33 that still works .

Thats a very nice rig ! I cant decide if I want the i5 2500K or the i5 3570k :/

after promo code the 3570k is $5 cheaper on newegg, but I just dont know enough about processors to know the difference. I know the 2500k is sandy bridge and the other is Ivy Bridge but thats about it.

Originally Posted by iKilledChewbacca Thats a very nice rig ! I cant decide if I want the i5 2500K or the i5 3570k :/ after promo code the 3570k is $5 cheaper on newegg, but I just dont know enough about processors to know the difference. I know the 2500k is sandy bridge and the other is Ivy Bridge but thats about it.

4th gen is coming out.

I bought a Radeon HD 6850 for my current desktop back in August 2011 when I built it. My friend is building a computer and I asked if he'd be interested in buying it from me. He doesn't game much and mostly needs a computer for Photoshop (and why he needs 16GB of RAM).

What's the best way to figure out the price I should ask? I checked eBay and most are $80 tops. I have the full box with everything that came with it (cut out the UPC for the rebate).

I would probably get a Radeon HD 7850, is the upgrade from the 6850 worth about $100?

Can someone help me with my PC?
I just got parts that I ordered a few days ago and they don't seem to go together. After putting it together, the computer turns on but nothing appears on the screen. I have this mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130662
and this psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153174
After a bit of googling and looking at the manuals, it seems like it's because the GPU in my CPU isn't working. I have the AMD A10 with a Radeon HD 7660D in it and the plug I'm missing is for the APU, so I need to find an adapter. It should be something like this http://i.stack.imgur.com/S4WBe.jpg but I can't seem to find one anywhere.

I'm also thinking of getting a graphics card instead of using the one that's in the CPU. My laptop has a Intel 4000 HD and a GTX 660M and it switches around to save power. Is it possible to do this on a desktop with the HD 7660D and another card?

Originally Posted by chickenbutt Can someone help me with my PC? I just got parts that I ordered a few days ago and they don't seem to go together. After putting it together, the computer turns on but nothing appears on the screen. I have this mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130662 and this psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153174 After a bit of googling and looking at the manuals, it seems like it's because the GPU in my CPU isn't working. I have the AMD A10 with a Radeon HD 7660D in it and the plug I'm missing is for the APU, so I need to find an adapter. It should be something like this http://i.stack.imgur.com/S4WBe.jpg but I can't seem to find one anywhere. I'm also thinking of getting a graphics card instead of using the one that's in the CPU. My laptop has a Intel 4000 HD and a GTX 660M and it switches around to save power. Is it possible to do this on a desktop with the HD 7660D and another card?

You don't need that adapter. Your PSU comes with a 4x4 cpu power adapter. It will be stuck together to look like 8 pins, but it should separate out into 4x4 according the specs on Newegg. Then just plug the correct 4 pin setup into your MOBO. The other 4 pins will just be extra.

Your MOBO only requires a 4 pin CPU adapter.

Originally Posted by abwly45 You don't need that adapter. Your PSU comes with a 4x4 cpu power adapter. It will be stuck together to look like 8 pins, but it should separate out into 4x4 according the specs on Newegg. Then just plug the correct 4 pin setup into your MOBO. The other 4 pins will just be extra. Your MOBO only requires a 4 pin CPU adapter.

Holy crap LOL I just took my time looking for it and found it. Everything was all black and I couldn't see any plugs. It works now. Thanks
Would it be a good idea to buy some computer case fans? I don't have any atm. Thinking of getting 2. Nevermind, I just ended up buying 2.

Ello guys, my friend needs some help. I tried doing all the math in my head and also used a PSU calculator but it just doesnt seem right to me (I didnt think his PSU would be powerful enough)....

He has :

Core2Duo e7600 @ 3.06Ghz
4x 2GB DDR2 (totaling 8GB)
Radeon HD 5770
2x 200mm fans
Corsair CX500 power supply (38a on the +12V rail)

He just bought another radeon 5770 off of craigslist for $35 and he wants to try and put it in the system....He is just afraid that it could do damage if his PSU isnt powerful enough.

What are your opinions on this ?

He doesnt overclock anything as far as I know if that helps.

Can he run crossfire with a 500w PSU or is he going to need to buy a bigger one ?

not knocking the op but here are some great sites to help you build a new rig

logicalincrements.com
pcpartpicker.com

Originally Posted by iKilledChewbacca Ello guys, my friend needs some help. I tried doing all the math in my head and also used a PSU calculator but it just doesnt seem right to me (I didnt think his PSU would be powerful enough).... He has : Core2Duo e7600 @ 3.06Ghz 4x 2GB DDR2 (totaling 8GB) Radeon HD 5770 2x 200mm fans Corsair CX500 power supply (38a on the +12V rail) He just bought another radeon 5770 off of craigslist for $35 and he wants to try and put it in the system....He is just afraid that it could do damage if his PSU isnt powerful enough. What are your opinions on this ? He doesnt overclock anything as far as I know if that helps. Can he run crossfire with a 500w PSU or is he going to need to buy a bigger one ?

anyone know ?

I personally would go 600_700

Originally Posted by iKilledChewbacca anyone know ?

I have an i7-3770k Overclocked to 4.5Ghz and 16GB Ram with a GTX 670 4GB on a 600 Watt PSU (PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III). I think your friends rig would be fine with his current 500w PSU.

This isn't building a PC necessarily, but I'm hoping to buy a cheap already built desktop from HP with a Core i5, and add a nice graphics card, such as an AMD Radeon 7850, will I run into problems with motherboard connectivity or cooling issues? I asked, and they said it has a 300W power supply, so I'll need to upgrade that.

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Desktops/HP-Pavilion/C9D25AV;pgid=QT5wGfjcGRlSRpIqjWpHvRV30000QKT4fpVE; sid=X36ZQazaGBgbRf2QXRsxyXTVVaUU6qYB0tXIrzDGVaUU6m qr0kualx9h?HP-Pavilion-p7-1520t-Desktop-PC

Cooling will be an issue and also case size vs gpu length will be an issue.

Originally Posted by StickyWaffles This isn't building a PC necessarily, but I'm hoping to buy a cheap already built desktop from HP with a Core i5, and add a nice graphics card, such as an AMD Radeon 7850, will I run into problems with motherboard connectivity or cooling issues? I asked, and they said it has a 300W power supply, so I'll need to upgrade that. http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Desktops/HP-Pavilion/C9D25AV;pgid=QT5wGfjcGRlSRpIqjWpHvRV30000QKT4fpVE; sid=X36ZQazaGBgbRf2QXRsxyXTVVaUU6qYB0tXIrzDGVaUU6m qr0kualx9h?HP-Pavilion-p7-1520t-Desktop-PC

No, but your better off buying from avadirect or some company that offers similar services. At least you can upgrade or customize from the get go if you're not comfortable building your own PC.

Originally Posted by StickyWaffles This isn't building a PC necessarily, but I'm hoping to buy a cheap already built desktop from HP with a Core i5, and add a nice graphics card, such as an AMD Radeon 7850, will I run into problems with motherboard connectivity or cooling issues? I asked, and they said it has a 300W power supply, so I'll need to upgrade that. http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Desktops/HP-Pavilion/C9D25AV;pgid=QT5wGfjcGRlSRpIqjWpHvRV30000QKT4fpVE; sid=X36ZQazaGBgbRf2QXRsxyXTVVaUU6qYB0tXIrzDGVaUU6m qr0kualx9h?HP-Pavilion-p7-1520t-Desktop-PC

For the cost of upgrading that thing, you should just build your own or pay a friend to do it. Microcenter has great deals on CPU/ Motherboard combo's and I am sure your university has a deal on getting a copy on an OS. It would be cheaper and upgrading something like that is going to be as much if not more of a PITA.

Just watch some videos on youtube of people putting stuff together and it should lessen your fear.

Does anyone know how to do crossfire? I'm trying to do it with a HD6670 and the HD7660D that came on the A10 Trinity CPU. On the box it says it works, but I can't seem to find the crossfire option on Catalyst Control.