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Originally Posted by v1et r1ce j-cart, if my build looked like this, which would you recommend? CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE ($130 @ microcenter) Mobo: MSi 870A-G54 or Gigabyte GA-880GM... ($40 @ microcenter, bundled with CPU) Hard drive: WD 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache (~$60 @ newegg) Ram: A-DATA XPG Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) (~$46 @ newegg) CD Drive: ASUS Black DVD/CD Burner ($22 @ newegg) Case: Rosewill Challenger Midtower w/ 3 fans (~$50 @ newegg) PSU: ??? need something good/reliable ??? GPU: ??? 2x 4850 or 5850 ??? I also plan on OC'ing, and using dual monitors if that matters.

Looks great. Just make sure your PSU is capable of running a crossfire system (I've personally never built one before). Was planning on it, then I got me a 470 fermi on the cheap.

Things to make note is that the ram you plan on purchasing will only work on that mobo ONLY if you OC your system from the get go. The ram is fine (fast too!) and your mobo supports it only if it is OCed. Mobo supports 1333, but OCs up to 2000, which is nice. I have a biostar mobo that can OC to 1600 and purposely bought 8gb of ram.

I actually have the 975 BE and plan to OC it soon. When you do OC, make sure you buy an additional heatsink+fan for your CPU. You will need to make sure that it won't run too hot. I'm still in the research phase for a new heatsink+fan, so I can't comment yet on what to get.

Rosewill is a great brand for cases. However I got this Coolermaster on the cheap:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-233-_-Product

But my friend got this one and now I wish I bought his:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119196

Can someone explain what a TV Tuner is, what it does and how it works?

Originally Posted by MSI Magus Can someone explain what a TV Tuner is, what it does and how it works?

It's actually old tech that use to allow you to connect your cable and TV to your PC. So that you can watch cable on your PC or show what's on your PC to your TV with some cards.

Originally Posted by Megazell It's actually old tech that use to allow you to connect your cable and TV to your PC. So that you can watch cable on your PC or show what's on your PC to your TV with some cards.

Thats what I thought. Was hoping it was something that let you watch it even if you didnt have cable, but I was highly doubting that was the case for obvious reasons Guess we stick to netflix instant streaming and downloading episodes of our fav shows from torrents!

Quick question about SLI, as I'm not at all familiar with it.

Could this motherboard run 2 cards in SLI. Say, GTX 560's perhaps? It's tomorrow's shell shocker from 4-12 west coast time.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-590-_-Product

I'm upgrading my motherboard soon (Curse me for thinking DDR3 was too expensive at the time) and want to make sure it's gonna be ready for the future. I'm also looking at picking up a 560, and would like to go double in a few years when it starts showing its age. If it's not compatible, could you point me in the direction of a (cheap) motherboard that can?

Originally Posted by j-cart Looks great. Just make sure your PSU is capable of running a crossfire system (I've personally never built one before). Was planning on it, then I got me a 470 fermi on the cheap. Things to make note is that the ram you plan on purchasing will only work on that mobo ONLY if you OC your system from the get go. The ram is fine (fast too!) and your mobo supports it only if it is OCed. Mobo supports 1333, but OCs up to 2000, which is nice. I have a biostar mobo that can OC to 1600 and purposely bought 8gb of ram. I actually have the 975 BE and plan to OC it soon. When you do OC, make sure you buy an additional heatsink+fan for your CPU. You will need to make sure that it won't run too hot. I'm still in the research phase for a new heatsink+fan, so I can't comment yet on what to get. Rosewill is a great brand for cases. However I got this Coolermaster on the cheap: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-233-_-Product But my friend got this one and now I wish I bought his: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119196

Thanks for the help! I'm still debating whether to crossfire or just get the 5850 haha.

I also ended up buying this case for $35. First purchase for my build

Originally Posted by MSI Magus Thats what I thought. Was hoping it was something that let you watch it even if you didnt have cable, but I was highly doubting that was the case for obvious reasons Guess we stick to netflix instant streaming and downloading episodes of our fav shows from torrents!

It also lets you connect an over the air antenna to watch and record local network shows. If you have a media center extender (like the 360) you can stream to the tv, you dont need the pc connected to the tv.

I could use some of your guys help with a non gaming pc. What would you suggest build wise for only internet (youtube, fb, mostly streaming live video feed) office (word and excel) and basically other small tasks

Originally Posted by pbnate88 I could use some of your guys help with a non gaming pc. What would you suggest build wise for only internet (youtube, fb, mostly streaming live video feed) office (word and excel) and basically other small tasks

Anything from this list. (Note: You will still need to purchase ram and HDD for these systems. Also need to install your own OS).

http://www.newegg.com/Store/BrandSub...rebone-Systems

Or you could build a PC around an ATX mini motherboard. The cost will be around the same price, but with the ability to upgrade.

Originally Posted by pbnate88 I could use some of your guys help with a non gaming pc. What would you suggest build wise for only internet (youtube, fb, mostly streaming live video feed) office (word and excel) and basically other small tasks

If you have a Microcenter near you, they have some pretty good deals on AMD motherboard/cpu combos starting at $99, which would be plenty powerful for what you want to do.

http://www.microcenter.com/specials/...ndlePROMO.html

This probably goes against the theme of the thread, but unless you want a specific case size or just enjoy building PCs, I'd probably just look around for a good sale on something prebuilt for what you want it to do.

Originally Posted by v1et r1ce Thanks for the help! I'm still debating whether to crossfire or just get the 5850 haha. I also ended up buying this case for $35. First purchase for my build

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...90,2912-7.html

Check the list, Tom's Hardware has 2x 4850s over the single 5850. Price will be your determining factor here.

Need to get a new laptop eventually. Anything that can play games like Crysis maxed / medium to high settings, at under $800? Anyone who can point me in the right direction, that would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by MillerTime2523 Need to get a new laptop eventually. Anything that can play games like Crysis maxed / medium to high settings, at under $800? Anyone who can point me in the right direction, that would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry to ruin your plan, but that is not going to happen on a laptop for under $800. You will need to spend $1100 minimum to play Crysis @ 30+ FPS on medium settings.

However for $800 you can build a desktop PC that will run easily run 55+ FPS Crysis on high to max no problem.

Honestly a laptop is not meant for gaming. It will eventually crumble due to extensive heat wear and tear in a short period of time than a desktop PC.

/edit: Newegg is having a sale on a combo set for a Zotac Zbox. For those looking for a light desktop PC or an HTPC, this thing works very well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...mbo652523-LM2A

Alright forget it then. I just figured if I was going to upgrade and get one for school, it would be a plus to be able to play a bunch of games.

If that's not an option, are there any recommendations on a laptop in the $600 - $800 range? What I'm looking to do is just word processing, web browsing, should have a good battery life and decent size screen.. I'm also into making music and what not, don't think thats really intensive computing but thought I'd throw it out there. Is there something that would really be the best bang for my buck, or could I really not go wrong with much of anything?

:edit: I'm looking at this right now, 4GB Ram, i5 processor, 15 inch screen, and cheaper than my price range at around $550.. Never dealt with Acer though but it looks like it's got pretty favorable reviews. Thoughts?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834115984

It will do everything you want to do on it. Just know it has a very limited battery on it 3 hours tops after a few months of use.

I have a netbook that I use for everything that you mentioned. Works great and the battery life is awesome. 3 years later and my netbook can still run for 8 hours with video playback.

Ok here is what I am putting together so far. If you have any options to change to get this cheaper with the same performance I would appreciate it. The case is still up in the air because I keep changing it. Also anyone with real world experience with the 570 GTX I have read reviews but it doesn't seems like it will max most games. I have the 580 GTX on my build because I want one card and then I can SLI later once the price drops.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Pu...umber=17649126

That PC will kill any game.

Review for the GTX 580:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-ge...ning-review/16

Originally Posted by headpiece747 Ok here is what I am putting together so far. If you have any options to change to get this cheaper with the same performance I would appreciate it. The case is still up in the air because I keep changing it. Also anyone with real world experience with the 570 GTX I have read reviews but it doesn't seems like it will max most games. I have the 580 GTX on my build because I want one card and then I can SLI later once the price drops. http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Pu...umber=17649126

Let me just click on that link and see wh-JESUS CHRIST 2000$ WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU.

Suggestions:
Really my suggestion is to make 2 1000$ builds for half that amount of time you were thinking a 2k build was going to last you.

Specific shit since you'll say hurrdurr futureproofing derp to my sound advice:
Get an i5-2500K instead. Its still got an unlocked multiplier for you Mr. hotshot overclocker.

Don't get a liquid cooler. You're buying a wrist strap which says to me you either have never done this before or are absent minded. You're going to jump straight into overclocking so much that you need liquid cooling?

Your SATA harddrive doesn't even have anything useful listed in the info page which is very sketch. Might be a 5400, might have god awful read/write times. At least it has a 32mb cache but thats not saying much. This is what all the cool kids use- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152185
WD has an equivalent too for around the same price if you care.

Your case has something wrong with it. The 932 has some sort of issue. I remember because I was considering getting one but it stopped me from getting it. Aside from the 160$ price tag I mean.

Your video card. Here I made this for you:


You're willing to pay almost double for 9% improvement (on average across gaming tasks)?

I didn't want to mention anything about the price he wanted to spend, but yes a PC worth $2000 in parts is only going for single digit upgrades compared to a $1000 gaming PC.

Originally Posted by crystalklear64 Let me just click on that link and see wh-JESUS CHRIST 2000$ WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU. Specific shit since you'll say hurrdurr futureproofing derp to my sound advice: Get an i5-2500K instead. Its still got an unlocked multiplier for you Mr. hotshot overclocker.

Thanks for the advise for the i5-2500k after reading tomshardware and other reviews it would give me the same performance.

I went with a prebuilt after all this because they were having a Memorial Day sale I could not past up and it was cheaper than my build and buying all the same components with some cool freebies thrown in.

CASE: Coolermaster HAF-X

DRIVE:24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW

CPU:Intel® Core™ i5-2500K

EXTRA FANS: Maximum Enermax 120MM Case Cooling Fans

FREE: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System

FREE: Shogun 2 Limited Edition

FREE: PCI Wireless Card

FREE: 30 GB Kingston Gaming MLC SSD

FREE: CoolerMaster Storm Inferno 4000dpi Gaming Mouse

HDD: 120GB Corsair Force Series 3 550MB/s Read & 510MB/s Write

Free:Xtreme Gear Keyboard

MEMORY:8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3/1600MHz

MOTHERBOARD: Asus P8P67

Free:XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse

NETWORK:Onboard Gigabit LAN Network

OS:Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium

POWERSUPPLY:850 Watts - Corsair TX850V2

FREE: Microsoft® Office® 2010 STARTER EDITION

SOUND:Creative Labs SB X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty Champion

VIDEO: EVGA Superclocked GTX 580

TOTAL: $1689.60

Thanks everyone for the help, positive and harsh because it did make me research and shop around for the best prices. I think it is a great build and I will probably have it for a looong time. This going to replace my Pentium P4 with 7800GTX so it is a super upgrade.