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Originally Posted by KingBroly Well...if the Slim doesn't offer anything over the existing 80gb model and is the same price, there probably isn't a reason to not get the current model anyway.

Smaller, lighter, less heat, less power...

Originally Posted by Master Ninja sure Gamescon is Tuesday the 18th But Sony could announce on Tuesday that the price drop goes effective on 10-20-09

They aren't going to announce that there will be a price drop, and then not have it take effect for 2 months. They'd absolutely kill sales for the PS3 during that time frame.

Originally Posted by Microshock Would people really have not bought an Xbox 360 if it didn't have BC in it? I doubt ANY of you have put an xbox game in your console and if you did, it was probably just a one time thing PS2 BC to the majority of PS3 owners does not matter, it just seems like it does because the people that want it do not own a PS3 and are very vocal about this. Seriously, you can find PS2's on the street And why are you blabbing nonsense about not needing Wi-fi or online play? The 360 wouldnt be half of what it is without xbox live. Plus most people do not appreciate having a cord run from their router to another room when they could just go wireless Now that the PS3 is dropping to this magic price point everyone was waiting for, its NOT GOOD ENOUGH, nothings good enough for them

I played Black on my 360 like 4 days ago. It was the last xbox games I didn't own and I just found a copy at GameCrazy for 5 bucks (I refused to pay more then $10 for such an old ass game).

Really BC is the only deal breaker for me. My back log is like 30 games, why would I rush out and buy a PS3 if it doesn't have all the features I want? It's not like I'm asking for a 360 with blu-ray. The PS3 can and has been able to play PS2 games. I know it's possible, and waiting doesn't hurt me, I have plenty of games to play. And while I wait the Blu-ray games/movies I want to will just get cheaper.

This is CAG, I'm used to waiting for something I want.

My girlfriend still has a few RPGs on the PS2 that she wants to play so BC on the PS3 would be nice for the upscaling and all. But we have a PS3 slim so it isn't a deal breaker. I wouldn't mind having the option to play PS2 games on my PS3, but realistically, I want to play PS3 games on my PS3...ya know?

well this is awesome my 60gig is being weird and i figured id get a new one..... i wonder if i can get a pick of that poster wen da deal goes live and go price match at BB

Originally Posted by SynGamer My girlfriend still has a few RPGs on the PS2 that she wants to play so BC on the PS3 would be nice for the upscaling and all. But we have a PS3 slim so it isn't a deal breaker. I wouldn't mind having the option to play PS2 games on my PS3, but realistically, I want to play PS3 games on my PS3...ya know?

I still play the Arcade Party Pak from PS1 on my PS3 at times to play some Klax. It's still fun and frustrating after all these years.

Originally Posted by SynGamer I want to play PS3 games on my PS3...ya know?

What nonsense do you speak of!?!

Now I've got this idea in my head that this event (I never heard of Gamescon until this thread) on Tuesday could be some standard event with Sony announcing the price drop, showcasing some upcoming games, and patting themselves on the back. The PS3 Slim, in the meantime, is announced later for the holiday season or next year.

Originally Posted by Master Ninja Heres my thinking. #1. You can forget about BC, its not gonna happen again, at all. At least anytime soon, and If it does cost wise it would be too expensive to put in a chip into the Slim, because the Slim is about cost cutting. If BC ever happens again, It will be on a per game basis per download or a Firmware update for everyone.

Sony has 2 patents that were recently released for public viewing that has the CELL and RSX being used to emulate PS2 games on the PS3. It's real, and it's going to happen sooner than you think.

Originally Posted by KingDox I played Black on my 360 like 4 days ago. It was the last xbox games I didn't own and I just found a copy at GameCrazy for 5 bucks (I refused to pay more then $10 for such an old ass game). Really BC is the only deal breaker for me. My back log is like 30 games, why would I rush out and buy a PS3 if it doesn't have all the features I want? It's not like I'm asking for a 360 with blu-ray. The PS3 can and has been able to play PS2 games. I know it's possible, and waiting doesn't hurt me, I have plenty of games to play. And while I wait the Blu-ray games/movies I want to will just get cheaper. This is CAG, I'm used to waiting for something I want.

I'm completely with you. I'm *still* playing Fire Pro Wrestling Returns and slowly slogging my way through the first Disgaea, and until I can continue to do that with a new system at a reasonable price point, I'm just not that interested. What, are PS3 games going to rot on the shelf if I don't play them right now? I don't think so. That's not some weird "system war" thing -- I was just as steamed when Peter Moore was talking his bull about how MS "overdelivered" on its BC, and obviously I'm getting use out of my elderly PS2 -- even though some of you people seem to take "I want BC" as a personal affront for whatever reason. As far as I can see, Sony needs my money more than I need to play anything on their system right now*, so I'm content to wait and see what happens with the Slim. If it's BC, at whatever price point, then eventually it'll be worth it for me. If not ... well, maybe their *next* system will have it, and I'll get around to playing the exclusives that interest me then.

Myke is right: this is like a thread right out of 2006, but maybe not in the way he was thinking -- people are copping such ridiculously defensive attitudes -- "Oh, boo hoo, BC is for whiners" -- that I thought ManaKnight learned how to multi-box.

*Disclaimer: Opinion is subject to change once The Last Guardian is out.

Originally Posted by Cage017 Now I've got this idea in my head that this event (I never heard of Gamescon until this thread) on Tuesday could be some standard event with Sony announcing the price drop, showcasing some upcoming games, and patting themselves on the back. The PS3 Slim, in the meantime, is announced later for the holiday season or next year.

The supply channel seems to be drying up extremely quickly...I don't think the announcement will be in a few months, but rather a couple days. You need your product on the shelf in order to sell it. If stores are liquidating PS3s right now, and Sony has stopped shipments, there's no way Sony will go until the holiday season with no PS3s available.

Originally Posted by Master Ninja Heres my thinking. #1. You can forget about BC, its not gonna happen again, at all. At least anytime soon, and If it does cost wise it would be too expensive to put in a chip into the Slim, because the Slim is about cost cutting. If BC ever happens again, It will be on a per game basis per download or a Firmware update for everyone. We already know it would have to be software driven, they removed the hardware with the 40GB. #2. Slim PS3 expect an External Power supply. Thats a given. #3. From the looks of it no more SD card and Memory stick slots. They were removed with the 40GB a long time ago, you figure this nugget out on your own? #4. Its a Bigger 120GB Hard Drive and a Slimmer console. I will personally 100% Gurantee the Slim will Cost $349.99 or $399.99, people will say YES, for the heck of it Slimmer, 120GB HDD, and 45nm CPU and 45nm GPU are worth the extra $50, and possibly a 4x Bluray Drive. Thanks for the guarantee, who are you again? #5. The 80GB SKU is dead when it drops to $299.99 get it while you can find it there will not be any more Sony has stopped making them. Why would the keep making expensive 80GB SKU, when they can make more profit by making the Slim. No shit, thanks for the update. #6. Expect to See Some high demand Slim Bundles, Uncharted 2 Slim Bundle. God of War 3 Slim Bundle GOW bundle should be in there also. #7. Historically and Sony's know way of doing things backs up my thinking. LOL #8. It is very likely that the Slim's 120GB HDD will not be user replaceable, that it is permanently fixed in there (like Xbox 1). This would allow for more slimming since they can get rid of the cage screws etc. While I dont't doubt this completely, it wouldnt make any sense at all to do a. new PSP-Go more built in storage 45nm CPU Premium SKU $249.99 It is Slimmer might as well call it PSP Slim, all previous Sony "Slim" models have cost more than the Fat model it replaces. New better Hardware $299 Old outdated Hardware $299 This just aint gonna happen.

I dont see where we are getting offered better hardware, outside of the smaller package everything will just be advancements like the GPU and CPU, natural progression. There is no reason that they couldnt sell this slim for the same price as current systems are selling for. Except, at the current price they are not selling so a price cut would seem to be in order. Weather its $50 or $100 is up to Sony.

It's funny how I'm always classified as one of the "biggest" fanboys, yet I don't nearly talk as much shit as 80% of the people in this thread. Yeesh.

Originally Posted by Master Ninja We are fighting over $50 bucks I say IMO. That people Would pay the $50 for lets say. #1. Because it is Slimmer and smaller. #2. There is more storage space 120GB that alone, to me is worth $50 more also of value to me and others. Is that it is 45nm CPU and 45nm GPU uses less power and is more reliable thats worth something. And it would not be out of place to possibly move from a 2x Bluray Drive, to a 4x Bluray drive if they can get the 4x Bluray Drive for the same if not cheaper than the 2x by now. Also Pricing the Slim at $299 and releasing it soon. Virtually assures that the 80GB fat model will NOT sell. Why Buy a $299 Fat when in 30 days I can get a Better Slimmer 120GB model for the same price, it makes no sense. The only way Sony prices the Slim at $299 is if they Do Not Want to Sell any PS3's.

If I remember correctly, this happened back when the PS2 slim came out. We had tons of the brick in stock as well as the slim. I sold out of both versions, the brick we just stopped getting, the slim continued to sell fantastically. So I really don't get why Sony would be making a mistake putting out a slim and expecting to still sell current models. Also where is the facts that the slim is going to be 120 gigs. I have heard this from more than one person. WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT A SLIM MODEL. It's all just ghost stories and rumors.
$399 - $299 = $100 the last time i checked.
Who is fighting?

Im still trying to find a pic of Ken Kutaragi fighting a crab.

but your opinion is appreciated

Originally Posted by Master Ninja Why Buy a $299 Fat when in 30 days I can get a Better Slimmer 120GB model for the same price, it makes no sense. .

It's all about being alone, desperate and not getting any... wait? What are we talking about?

Originally Posted by jh6269 So is God of War 3 Going to be 1080p native resolution? Pixeljunk Eden, Wipeout HD, Super Stardust HD are in 1080p, but those games are much smaller compared to Uncharted, Killzone 2, etc. Anyway, I honestly have no idea, so I'm just wondering.

Yep, in fact Sony Santa Monica announced it was going to be native 1080p back in 2007 and its been echoed out there for awhile. The E3 demo was probably the best thing I ever seen play on the PS3 right next to Uncharted 2.

Which brings me to another point...

It'll be interesting to see what they could cram on a 50-gig dual layer BD with such high-quality textures. Killzone 2 was already big with each level being at least a few gigs. Now with Naughty Dog having to pull extra content from Uncharted 2 because they were hitting the limit.

Just the talk of filling BDs already has me thinking how much can they really put on it for a large-scale 1080p game.

Here's my guess:

1) Sony announces price drop on current models (as pictured) this week or next.
2) Sony reveals PS3 Slim at TGS. Price is $399.99 (possibly $349.99).

Originally Posted by CheapyD Here's my guess: 1) Sony announces price drop on current models (as pictured) this week or next. 2) Sony reveals PS3 Slim at TGS. Price is $399.99 (possibly $349.99).

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...&postcount=207

no joke, i have owned my ps3 since launch and i can say i had it first. therefore, im just better +1 me A++++

I hope that Sony really pushes the PS3 hard (commercially) when the price drop happens. There's a great library of games, and also there's a lot of 10 - 15 dollar blu rays floating around; its taken a long time, but the PS3 is becoming an affordable, for the masses mainstream system. Even with the price point, I hope that Sony releases a new ad campaign to help it out.