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Anyone else pissed about Smash Bros Melee?

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Old 03-12-2004, 01:43 AM   #1
Anyone else pissed about Smash Bros Melee?

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I know this topic would probably have been better 2 years ago, but I have only been here a couple of months.

I waited, and WAITED, and WAITED for Smash Brothers Melee. My roommates and friends in College sacrificed who knows how much time and grades playing Smash on the 64. My favorite character, by far, was Fox. To this day I would challenge anybody in that game on the N64. I had the character down to a work of art.

Out comes Melee for the Gamecube. Who is the ONLY character to drastically change, and for the worse? FOX.

Changes to Fox:
1) His "forcefield" that bounces back items or weapon fire at opponents. First, they gave it to everyone with that weird little blocking maneuver that essentially does the same thing (so it is no longer unique to his character) and second, it no longer *charges* the item or weapon that bounces back at his opponent. This made Fox a weaker character.

2) They weighted him down. I barely jump before I'm back on the ground again. This makes air attacks incredibly more difficult. Both because there is less time in the air to establish your attack, and because you have to do the attack so quickly before he hits the ground that it is very difficult to time when he will be at the top of his jump. On the 64, you could jump-kick someone and recover in time to do a "double-jump" before falling to your death. Now if you jump-kick someone, you'd better have something to land on. This made Fox a weaker character

3) The laser. It no longer stuns anyone and therefore loses the little bit of defensive benefit it had before. This made Fox a weaker character.

4) The forward-strong attack. On the 64 Fox "hopped" forward, giving him some range. They changed it to some sort of roundhouse kick with much less range. This made Fox a weaker character.

5) The Quick-Attack. Though sometimes surprising to your opponent, it is incredibly risky if you're near a ledge (which is almost always) and it's easy to do on accident. I'll give a neutral on benefit/hinderance but it certainly didn't make up for the handicap they gave Fox.

What do you think? Am I wrong here? Fox was my favorite character and this is honestly the only Nintendo sequel I have ever felt let down with. Anybody think another character was adversly affected? Am I the only one here that thinks Fox and his fans got the shaft???
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Old 03-12-2004, 01:46 AM   #2
Falco is my fav, so i'm happy.
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Old 03-12-2004, 01:51 AM   #3
Exactly. Everyone who doens't use Fox does seem pretty happy with the game.
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Old 03-12-2004, 01:52 AM   #4
they made fox less cheap. my friend used to beat my ass with fox in 64. no more. no more.
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Old 03-12-2004, 02:02 AM   #5
Yeah, fox was pretty cheap, I kick ass with the creampuff HIYA
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Old 03-12-2004, 02:02 AM   #6
You do realize that Fox is one of the top characters in the game, yes?
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Old 03-12-2004, 02:07 AM   #7
top character for cheapies...
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Old 03-12-2004, 02:12 AM   #8
If he's that "special" then, you should be able to use him just as well.
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Old 03-12-2004, 02:27 AM   #9
ooooh, they changed your character. The better music, graphics, interface, framerate, environments and number of characters more than makes up for the changes. It was a good game on the N64, but all the loose ends and presentation were polished for the Cube. I think they made all the characters more equal to one another which is better IMO.
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Old 03-12-2004, 02:34 AM   #10
Uh.. do any of you play.. seriously? As in tournament-competitive levels? Doesn't really sound like it.
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Old 03-12-2004, 02:38 AM   #11
no ive never played in a tournament. but im a loud mouth jackass when it comes to competitve games wether im good at them or not. everyone loves a villian.
the only thing that pissed me off about ssbm is that the secret characters were more or less duplicates of oher characters. ie: mario/dr mario. falco/ fox. marth/roy.
oh and the egm aprils fool day trick mad me mad. sonic and tails wouldve been awesome secret characters.
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Old 03-12-2004, 02:43 AM   #12
Real men pick characters randomly.
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Old 03-12-2004, 08:25 AM   #13
Real men pick joke characters and still dominate the game.
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Old 03-12-2004, 08:36 AM   #14
Real men don't play GameCube.



They play XBox.
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Old 03-12-2004, 09:32 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by SolinariDotCom
Uh.. do any of you play.. seriously? As in tournament-competitive levels? Doesn't really sound like it.
I would have given just about anything to play in a tournament on the 64 version. Do they have those?
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Old 03-12-2004, 09:37 AM   #16
Holy I thought I fell out of my chair and woke up back in 2001, like some sort of "Peggy Sue Got Married" plot twist.
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Old 03-12-2004, 09:54 AM   #17
"I thought I fell out of my chair and woke up back in 2001"

What do you mean....BACK...in 2001???? What year IS this?????
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Old 03-12-2004, 10:11 AM   #18
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"I thought I fell out of my chair and woke up back in 2001"

What do you mean....BACK...in 2001???? What year IS this?????

2004
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Old 03-12-2004, 10:17 AM   #19
...The year of 200X, a super robot named Megaman was created. Dr Light created Megaman to stop the evil desires of Dr Wily.
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Old 03-12-2004, 10:22 AM   #20
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