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Originally Posted by Paco Capcom won't fix shit since they know people will buy it regardless. Time to play some classical music.

Originally Posted by Chacrana

Originally Posted by Chacrana

Ok, I think UMvC3 netcode is much better than MvC3. Thing is I believe player matches for some reason lags more than ranked matches. If someone else can confirm this, please.

As for impressions of the overall game and characters.

They seemed to have nerfed several characters that really didn't need nerfs and buffed certain ones that really didn't need nerfs.

Tron - nerfed to hell, even as point character. Can't really combo off air H that crosses up, which is pretty much her only real way to get in. You're going to need some sort of beam assist to help with this.

Zero - He feels different, can't do certain combos, like the j.m, j.m, j.h loops. Also, juggling after a f+H is difficult and spotty at best outside of the corner. Even though he now has the ability to cancel into buster from his special moves, overall, I think he got nerfed.

Spiderman - Great character, the ability to go web zip after specials is great for pressure (safe btw, can block after web zip). Although the web throw was nerfed, spiderman can rely on just ultimate web throw resets or his other hyper which do plenty of damage.

Doom - j.S, nuff said. He's pretty much the same guy, except with better tools.

Morrigan - She still sucks. I don't know what the point of this character is besides trying to abuse her meter gain assist. As for the air dash nerf, I don't think it's that bad. All Morrigan players need to do is go into flight mode and air dash from there so they can unfly when needed. Her damage is still ass.

Deadpool - he's pretty much the same, but the teleport from guns is a safe way to get in and out. He does average damage still, but his keepaway remains solid.

Ryu - Haven't been able to play him that much, but he's definitely better. Being able to cancel overhead into launcher or special will save the x factor or need for assist. Still does awesome damage off basic stuff.

Iron Man - Ass, nuff said. Air dash is pure ass.

C.Viper - The same, she's good, but it depends on execution and the player to deal some damage. The new optic laser is a great addition as it gives a sort of answer to long range keepaway.

Sentinaaall - Pretty much the same guy, except drones are faster which I think is a buff. As for rocket punch no longer comboing into hyper sodium force, all one needs to do is tk rocket punch into hard drive. Still a good character, but still squishy.

Wesker - Ok, I take back what I said about him being nerfed, this guy got buffed and is definitely one of the top tier, at least top 5, maybe top 3. 1mil is plenty of health still. His teleport mixups are intact. And now he is able to teleport off qcf+l making it safe and giving him position. Also his Hyper 1 got buffed. Now it doesn't just hit people, it powers him up (he takes off his glasses becoming faster and stronger). It's basically a powerup and attack hyper in one.

Those were the characters I really only played in Vanilla. But the one I'm really scared of is Dormammu, that guy is on steroids.

As for the new characters, I'm really only looking at Nemesis. He's pretty much a better Ghostrider/Hulk rolled into one. For the rest, the only ones that seem to stand out are Hawkeye (She Hulk/Taskmaster/Spencer in one) and lvl 4-5 Frank West (pretty much untouchable by then). Vergil, not so scared of, once people realize how to punish his everything (all his moves are unsafe), he won't be so scary. Strider does ass damage. Firebrand looks interesting.

I'm glad I don't take fighters seriously or I would never play Option.iv and that's a fact.

Another Impression from SRK

"its actually better than he described i played with a guy in soCal and im now in Hawaii and he said it was pretty good, only minor input lag he said....mind u it was only 2 bars, now i played UMVC3 with 4 bars and that #### lagged throught out the match....KOF13 netcode is fine....waaay better than KOF12"

Originally Posted by RelentlessRolento Buy it now? Last time I put up DLC it got removed from ebay.

Yep, BIN. Listed it at $9.99 and someone used BIN. Free insertion fee which was a surprise. After eBay and Paypal fees, I got about $12ish. Not bad.

In March when the complete set comes out, I guess I'll be able to gameshare it with someone else for $10 each, $20 total.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=nB0ps6I1Lh8

Paco am cry.

Blitz am buy for 9.99 on gamefly with free shipping.

Originally Posted by blitz6speed http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=nB0ps6I1Lh8 Paco am cry. Blitz am buy for 9.99 on gamefly with free shipping.

Game looks smooth and sounds like its mostly button delay. I'm keeping my pre-order.

Its still a huge improvement over the last KOF. Before the patch it wasn't playable and the screen wasn't that smooth. Then after the patch it was mostly button delay. I hate when its extreme button delay, but if its just some I can stand it.

Paco would buy it and play it no matter how bad the online was. He played the crap out of KOF 12 like it was the shit.

Ok guys, I pretty much wiped the list clean, so just fill in your info once more. Frank, I kept your stuff since you just recently signed in.

If I can't get into this game in 2 weeks its getting traded in, the whole game just doesn't feel right. Re-added to list.

@maigo: Are you talking about the online? Character changes? There were several, it definitely isn't exactly the same as mvc3.

Online feels worse to me than the original and some of the characters just don't feel right (I do realize that capcom revamped a large part of the cast). I'm trying to enjoy the game, but its pretty hard right now. Just feels like i'm mashing everything.

Originally Posted by maigoyume Online feels worse to me than the original and some of the characters just don't feel right (I do realize that capcom revamped a large part of the cast). I'm trying to enjoy the game, but its pretty hard right now. Just feels like i'm mashing everything.

Have you been playing against people who you normally have a good connection to in other games? It just seems odd since I've heard the netcode is supposedly a lot better.

Originally Posted by maigoyume Just feels like i'm mashing everything.

That's how you know you're playing MAHVUL correctly baby.

It seems netcode is ass in player matches, but ranked for some reason is ok. And the couple of times I play friends on friends list it's ok, for the most part. Though there are moments of lag. The lag in the game is different than the last game for sure.

And maigo, you've been playing Chun li in mvc3, of course you mash dem legs...

Though I can get by with just double tapping. I guess I'm resistant to the lag.

Originally Posted by distgfx Have you been playing against people who you normally have a good connection to in other games? It just seems odd since I've heard the netcode is supposedly a lot better.

None of my other friends have UMVC3 (not legally anyway) and I've been playing ranked matches.

Originally Posted by option.iv And maigo, you've been playing Chun li in mvc3, of course you mash dem legs...

I haven't used Chun at all yet. Swapped my team to strider, vergil, dormammu. Anyhow I'll give it a few more weeks, can't really play right now since I torched my left hand at work.

Originally Posted by maigoyume None of my other friends have UMVC3 (not legally anyway) and I've been playing ranked matches.

I never trust ranked, you don't know what shit the people you're fighting have going on or what they're using. Shame your friends are pirates and can't play you!

Originally Posted by maigoyume Online feels worse to me than the original and some of the characters just don't feel right (I do realize that capcom revamped a large part of the cast). I'm trying to enjoy the game, but its pretty hard right now. Just feels like i'm mashing everything.

the weird thing is, in vanilla, I felt like I was mashing all the time. In Ultimate I feel like I'm actually playing a game now.

Originally Posted by distgfx I never trust ranked, you don't know what shit the people you're fighting have going on or what they're using. Shame your friends are pirates and can't play you!

Yea, its pretty lame. They only pirate their games.

Originally Posted by RelentlessRolento the weird thing is, in vanilla, I felt like I was mashing all the time. In Ultimate I feel like I'm actually playing a game now.

The only time I feel like I'm not mashing is when I'm using dormammu. Or when I'm playing 3rd strike.