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Originally Posted by buckythekat I love Atlus and Persona but $70 seems a bit much

Man, that price is... ridiculous. I'm not sure if those sticks are made of real gold or if Atlus has lost it.

Originally Posted by barrit The Hori accessories were sold in Japan separately. http://www.play-asia.com/Persona_4_G...n-70-4lbd.html I forgot how much that kit was, but it was over $30. If I remember correctly, it sold out pretty fast too. I think it's cool they are including it for anyone that wanted that stuff.

I'm hearing that they sold for $100 on eBay once they sold out. I think it was still rather high when it was new, too. So $30 extra doesn't seem all that bad.

EDIT: Note that the Japanese set didn't even come with the game, either.

Eh, I'll pass on the P4G Solid Gold Premium Edition. The best bonus item in it--the Hori Hard Pouch--is unnecessary for me since I already own the Vita Vault Case (and it's the best carrying case for it IMO).

Well I just came back from preordering this at Gamestop. I like this bundle, even though it's $40 extra. (Had the Newegg $30 preorder.)

Here's video of the accessories.

Originally Posted by Vigilante Eh, I'll pass on the P4G Solid Gold Premium Edition. The best bonus item in it--the Hori Hard Pouch--is unnecessary for me since I already own the Vita Vault Case (and it's the best carrying case for it IMO).

I really don't like this. It's basically the same Hori accessory set that Hori has sold for several games on the PSP and 3DS (including Peace Walker) bundled with the game in an outer box. While they may regularly sell out in Japan, they sure haven't sold out in the US. They could have at least done an art book or a soundtrack or something to make it not just a way to move Hori accessory packs.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Hori products at all to begin with. I regard them the same as I regard MadCatz... total garbage.

I might not think that $70 price was so absurd if it were a new game. But this is a spruced up Persona 4, which I already own. It is absolutely ridiculous how often Atlas rereleases games. And they damn sure shouldn't be pricing rereleases the same as actual new games. I will say that if people would actually stand up for themselves, not buy a $70 rerelease game with crappy accessories, then Atlas would perhaps stop being such d-bags about rereleases. But it's not like anyone of this day and age would be willing to do that. People aren't even willing to boycott companies that exist for the purpose of undermining our rights (if I had to apply that to gaming, the example I'd give would be Steam, but gaming wasn't what I thought when I wrote that, for the record) so why would they boycott a company (or game release) for being ridiculously overpriced?

They also do their rereleasing too damn close together. What's the point? I really can't imagine someone thinking, "Persona 4 is a damn good game, but I just wish it were mobile." It isn't even a good game to play on a portable system. It's not something you can just pick up and put down. Ill-thought-out rereleases (when everyone still has the original system) for way too much money = Atlas are d-bags. Just because lame portable systems are trendy (but only when they're Nintendo) doesn't mean you should rerelease all of your games. Clearly they are only looking to get people to double dip. I don't fault a company for wanting to make money, but I do expect game companies to do so mostly by new games, not by endless rereleases (e.g. Persona 3).

Originally Posted by dandragonrage Personally, I'm not a fan of Hori products at all to begin with. I regard them the same as I regard MadCatz... total garbage. I might not think that $70 price was so absurd if it were a new game. But this is a spruced up Persona 4, which I already own. It is absolutely ridiculous how often Atlas rereleases games. And they damn sure shouldn't be pricing rereleases the same as actual new games. I will say that if people would actually stand up for themselves, not buy a $70 rerelease game with crappy accessories, then Atlas would perhaps stop being such d-bags about rereleases. But it's not like anyone of this day and age would be willing to do that. People aren't even willing to boycott companies that exist for the purpose of undermining our rights (if I had to apply that to gaming, the example I'd give would be Steam, but gaming wasn't what I thought when I wrote that, for the record) so why would they boycott a company (or game release) for being ridiculously overpriced? They also do their rereleasing too damn close together. What's the point? I really can't imagine someone thinking, "Persona 4 is a damn good game, but I just wish it were mobile." It isn't even a good game to play on a portable system. It's not something you can just pick up and put down. Ill-thought-out rereleases (when everyone still has the original system) for way too much money = Atlas are d-bags. Just because lame portable systems are trendy (but only when they're Nintendo) doesn't mean you should rerelease all of your games. Clearly they are only looking to get people to double dip. I don't fault a company for wanting to make money, but I do expect game companies to do so mostly by new games, not by endless rereleases (e.g. Persona 3).

Is this another case of "If I don't like it, nobody should like it?"

Have you thought that maybe people buy this stuff because they want to? I don't think anyone is buying this premium edition out of some undying loyalty to Atlus. This re-release is the highest selling Vita game in Japan so far. Obviously, there is a market for this re-release. Just because you don't like the product doesn't mean everyone has to.

Originally Posted by gettinmoney662 Is this another case of "If I don't like it, nobody should like it?" Have you thought that maybe people buy this stuff because they want to? I don't think anyone is buying this premium edition out of some undying loyalty to Atlus. This re-release is the highest selling Vita game in Japan so far. Obviously, there is a market for this re-release. Just because you don't like the product doesn't mean everyone has to.

Did I say I don't like the game? No. I said they're charging too much for a rerelease that is coming so soon that it's pointless, and that if you guys didn't buy it, they wouldn't pull this $70 rerelease crap in the future. That's all factual. It may be your opinion that you don't care, but those who let themselves be ripped off are enablers. I'm sure you won't care about that, either, but it doesn't make my opinion invalid. This is not kindergarten. We adults can talk about things negatively without getting personal, so let's stop fooling ourselves there. Negative opinions are not automatically some sort of trolling as about 99.997% of people on the internet seem to wrongly think. Nobody has a positive opinion about everything, and negative opinions aren't wrong.

#1 seller for Vita? Whoop de doo. Its game library is absolute junk. LOL that it takes a rerelease to top the charts. And I'm no Sony hater, either.. I had a Playstation, and currently have a PS2, PS3, PSP, and PSPgo. I don't really like the company, but I also don't dislike them any more than I dislike most large corporations. And while this opinion has nothing to do with the opinion I gave about Atlas, I won't be buying a Vita at least until Sony decides to give it TV out. If you're the one that does your own driving, then I'm not sure I'd believe that you really find a portable system convenient (I don't expect you to care if I believe you or not). What would you be using it for? Playing it on the john? Wow. I've heard the "doctor's waiting room" argument to that one before... go to the doctor's a lot? I play all games on a TV or computer monitor.. or not at all.

Originally Posted by dandragonrage Did I say I don't like the game? No. I said they're charging too much for a rerelease that is coming so soon that it's pointless, and that if you guys didn't buy it, they wouldn't pull this $70 rerelease crap in the future. That's all factual. It may be your opinion that you don't care, but those who let themselves be ripped off are enablers. I'm sure you won't care about that, either, but it doesn't make my opinion invalid. This is not kindergarten. We adults can talk about things negatively without getting personal, so let's stop fooling ourselves there. Negative opinions are not automatically some sort of trolling as about 99.997% of people on the internet seem to wrongly think. Nobody has a positive opinion about everything, and negative opinions aren't wrong.

Who called anyone a troll? You're saying people who buy this are getting ripped off, but if they don't think they're getting ripped off, who are you to tell them differently? If you don't like it, don't buy it. I'm getting the vanilla version of this game and not the rerelease because, like you, I don't see the value. However, unlike you, I understand that others may want the extras that come with this edition and see the value in buying it.

My point behind the #1 in sales comment is that there is a market for these re-releases.

Originally Posted by gettinmoney662 Who called anyone a troll? You're saying people who buy this are getting ripped off, but if they don't think they're getting ripped off, who are you to tell them differently? If you don't like it, don't buy it. I'm getting the vanilla version of this game and not the rerelease because, like you, I don't see the value. However, unlike you, I understand that others may want the extras that come with this edition and see the value in buying it. My point behind the #1 in sales comment is that there is a market for these re-releases.

I'm comparing the release dates (too close - I bet you all still have a PS2 like I do) and prices (rerelease is too much compared to original) of the versions of the game. To pay as much or more for the same game with a little bit of new stuff certainly qualifies as a ripoff in my book. I'd personally recommend people who haven't played Persona 4 before buy the real Persona 4 and deal with having a few less things in return for not paying a bunch of money and not having to play it on a portable.

It's not like I'm putting a gun to your head and telling you not to buy it. But I can't understand why you would buy it, especially if the price doesn't at least annoy you. It seems apparent to me that Atlas is ONLY doing this for the money. It does not bother me that corporations are out to make money, but it seems apparent that it's the ONLY thing that Atlas cares about here, or they wouldn't be releasing every game 2-3 times for full price each time only to get people to buy the same thing multiple times. I do expect companies to care about making money, but not by this disrespectful crap. Give us fair prices, Atlas, and start making original games again.

P.S. no worries, I have nothing more to say on the topic. I've said everything that I have to say. Obviously each person will make his own decision as to whether paying Atlas $(40-70)x(2-3) is worth it.

Oh good, Gamestop has the premium edition available for preorder now? They didn't last night when I got the email from Atlus.

While I do not personally care for the Persona games (I hate the grinding in rogue-likes), I like the story and characters, which made P4U a huge draw for me. I already had P4G preordered just for the Vita skin (and was going to sell the game), but I'm going to swap my preorder to the Premium version on the way home now. Too bad I wasted my PUR points on that $15 off pre-owned coupon already...

Grinding in P4? LOL

Originally Posted by dandragonrage They also do their rereleasing too damn close together. What's the point? I really can't imagine someone thinking, "Persona 4 is a damn good game, but I just wish it were mobile." It isn't even a good game to play on a portable system. It's not something you can just pick up and put down. Ill-thought-out rereleases (when everyone still has the original system) for way too much money = Atlas are d-bags. Just because lame portable systems are trendy (but only when they're Nintendo) doesn't mean you should rerelease all of your games. Clearly they are only looking to get people to double dip. I don't fault a company for wanting to make money, but I do expect game companies to do so mostly by new games, not by endless rereleases (e.g. Persona 3).

I have played games since the NES and I never played this game before. I had a PS2, but I was sucked into MMOs pretty much that entire era. I like Hori accessories, but I already have a Hori face cover and a case that I used with my PSP, so I'm just getting the standard edition. I think the face cover is really nice. From what I can see, it looks like the standard Hori face cover that I have. It protects well and you can switch it around and use it to stand up your Vita. If you were able to jump on the Newegg deal, you could have pre-ordered the standard edition for $29.99. I don't think that's a bad price at all. Not everyone plays portables on the go either. 90% of the time, I'm at home or in my hotel if I do have to travel.

Still waiting on Amazon to have this up for pre order...

Originally Posted by dandragonrage I'm comparing the release dates (too close - I bet you all still have a PS2 like I do) and prices (rerelease is too much compared to original) of the versions of the game. To pay as much or more for the same game with a little bit of new stuff certainly qualifies as a ripoff in my book. I'd personally recommend people who haven't played Persona 4 before buy the real Persona 4 and deal with having a few less things in return for not paying a bunch of money and not having to play it on a portable. It's not like I'm putting a gun to your head and telling you not to buy it. But I can't understand why you would buy it, especially if the price doesn't at least annoy you. It seems apparent to me that Atlas is ONLY doing this for the money. It does not bother me that corporations are out to make money, but it seems apparent that it's the ONLY thing that Atlas cares about here, or they wouldn't be releasing every game 2-3 times for full price each time only to get people to buy the same thing multiple times. I do expect companies to care about making money, but not by this disrespectful crap. Give us fair prices, Atlas, and start making original games again. P.S. no worries, I have nothing more to say on the topic. I've said everything that I have to say. Obviously each person will make his own decision as to whether paying Atlas $(40-70)x(2-3) is worth it.

Once again, you assume that your personal situation applies to everyone. I don't have a PS2 and I've never played Persona 4, so I am buying this game for the first time for a system I have.

I bet you get mad at the HD collections too, even though there are some people (like me) who skipped the PS2 generation and others who are willing to buy the games again to play them in HD or to get trophies/achievements.

Originally Posted by barrit If you were able to jump on the Newegg deal, you could have pre-ordered the standard edition for $29.99. I don't think that's a bad price at all. Not everyone plays portables on the go either. 90% of the time, I'm at home or in my hotel if I do have to travel.

Touche.. $30 isn't so bad. But I still disrespect Atlas' catalog for being so full of rereleases. They try to make rereleases a significant part of their revenue, which is BS.

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I started off using my PSP mostly at home, only because it had games not on other systems (e.g. Valkyria Chronicles 2, which while OK, is WAY less good than the original game, which is in my top 5 of all time and I've been gaming since NES too). I bought a PSPgo because it has DualShock3 support. I've had a component out cable for my PSP for a while, but I still had to hold the uncomfortable thing (with annoying wires poking out) to play it. With PSPgo, I can use it essentially like a low-res home console. Which makes it basically equivalent to a Nintendo console

I hate using any portable console in any situation that involves me looking at it. I cannot find a way to hold it comfortably. Inevitably I have to either tilt my head way too far down to be comfortable, or I have to hold the console up too high to be comfortable. The best I've figured out is using one of those big cushion/pillow things with the little arms on the side in bed up against my wall, and it's still not that comfortable. (I don't mean the boyfriend arm pillow stupid thing that Google wants to show me when I tried to Google what I meant... these look nothing like an arm, and have been around for a long time. Just not sure what the actual name is.)

I guess this is too off topic for this thread though.

Originally Posted by dandragonrage Personally, I'm not a fan of Hori products at all to begin with. I regard them the same as I regard MadCatz... total garbage.

Hori in the same regard as MadCatz? Um, no, that couldn't be further from the truth. Hori makes great quality products, particularly their screen protectors and cases for portable devices. You may have had a bad experience with them in the past, but you'd be the exception not the rule. I see Hori and I know it's a name I can trust and will be a quality product.

To even mention them in in the same sentence as MadCatz is an insult as the two are not in the same class at all.

Admittedly it's been a while since I've been willing to try any third party controller for any system with the exception of some Logitech stuff for PS2. And I don't bother with cases or protectors. Perhaps things have changed at some point, but I've been burned by third party controllers and memory cards several times in the past from many different companies. I guess my bad on that one. I shouldn't have said anything about it without recent experience. I also kind of never took them seriously since they've released a lot of absolutely ridiculous controllers... Like that stupid Dragon Quest one...

Originally Posted by SteveGo Hori in the same regard as MadCatz? Um, no, that couldn't be further from the truth. Hori makes great quality products, particularly their screen protectors and cases for portable devices. You may have had a bad experience with them in the past, but you'd be the exception not the rule. I see Hori and I know it's a name I can trust and will be a quality product. To even mention them in in the same sentence as MadCatz is an insult as the two are not in the same class at all.

this, Hori makes some of the best quality accessories out there

heck I imported one of their hard pouches for my Vita back at launch and have my 3DS, DS Lite and Vita all encased in Hori pouches

Originally Posted by AkariK Oh good, Gamestop has the premium edition available for preorder now? They didn't last night when I got the email from Atlus. While I do not personally care for the Persona games (I hate the grinding in rogue-likes), I like the story and characters, which made P4U a huge draw for me. I already had P4G preordered just for the Vita skin (and was going to sell the game), but I'm going to swap my preorder to the Premium version on the way home now. Too bad I wasted my PUR points on that $15 off pre-owned coupon already...

Since when was Persona a roguelike series?