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There are a couple things that are getting left out and its kinda of annoying to see people fly of the handle without mentioning these things.

Has anyone thought that maybe they did this to HELP people? Seeing has half the country still doesnt own a HD tv and a decent amount of people dont have broadband internet. Those people were paying for a service they couldnt even use. So for them their bill is getting a nice bump down in price. But of course out of site out of mind screw those people.

Also, do we not take into account the price to drive to a red box? You guys just ripped Dmaul for not driving 3 miles to one? For one its 6 miles round trip, then he has to go return it which brings it to 12 miles. Would you really drive 12 ing miles to rent a movie? Depending where you live and what you drive that could be anywhere between 3-5 bucks extra. Plus the headache of having to actually drive to a redbox.

It reminds me of the people who waste 5 dollars worth of gas sitting in a gas station offering 99 cent gas.

Originally Posted by Hibiwa Eh, I've been a Netflix subscriber all these years precisely because they used to offer a lot of foreign movies, tv shows, and other non-mainstream titles in their library. They don't anymore. They've given up on Korean dramas and Hong Kong releases for one. Everything has unknown status, and the one's that exist have missing volumes that will never come back. Anime streams are English dubs only. I don't know what their business focus is anymore, and I'm not going to stick around until they settle down again. Throwing them a monthly fee in hopes they get the title you want eventually is proving more pointless every day. I'd rather just go buy it outright and save $. Bidding them adieu would be the smart thing for me at this point.

You are well within your right to do or think whatever I just dont understand then. It feels like people want everything from A-Z but they damn sure dont want to spend any more money for it. If Netflix buys more content dont they need to get more income?

I didn't ask for streaming, but they tempted customers over the last couple of years to get them used to the idea that we could have both for the same price. Splitting rates and plans up is a gamble that most customers will still go with both and pay the higher fee.

If the quality and availability of obscure titles were maintained like they were say 4 years ago, then I'd stay. The trend is towards more popular releases, and everything else is an afterthought.

They can do whatever they want, but I am not willing to shell out more money for a decreasing selection of dvds so they can stream stuff I don't care about.

Originally Posted by Soodmeg Has anyone thought that maybe they did this to HELP people? Seeing has half the country still doesnt own a HD tv and a decent amount of people dont have broadband internet. Those people were paying for a service they couldnt even use. So for them their bill is getting a nice bump down in price. But of course out of site out of mind screw those people.

Of course that's a good deal for people who don't stream. But they could have offered the disc only plan, while still giving some discount for bundling discs and streaming service.

Instead they just double the $7.99 fee and the cheapest option is now $15.98, which is a big jump at once from the $9.99 it was before.

There'd be a lot less up roar if they'd made it a bundle deal and given people a break and made the combo price say $12.99 or something.

It's a big price drop when they haven't announced any improvements to the service.

Also, do we not take into account the price to drive to a red box? You guys just ripped Dmaul for not driving 3 miles to one?

To clarify, my work commute is 3 miles each way, with no Redboxes along it. The closest read box is about a 1.5 miles per way. Though it's city miles so with traffic lights etc. it takes about 10 minutes each way both times. So it's more the time than distance/gas mileage for me.

Originally Posted by Soodmeg You are well within your right to do or think whatever I just dont understand then. It feels like people want everything from A-Z but they damn sure dont want to spend any more money for it. If Netflix buys more content dont they need to get more income?

The problem is they haven't announced that they're adding content or improving the service with these fees.

If they announced that they were adding a bunch of new titles to streaming, starting to have major new releases to stream etc. that would be a different story and I'd be more ok with the price increase.

But for my package to jump from $11.99 to $17.98 with no announced improvements is just too much for me to keep on that plan. It was barely worth the $11.99 to me, and definitely not worth $17.98 for the amount of titles I watch a month. So I'll drop down to the 1 disc only with blu ray somewhat begrudgingly as I did like having streaming available for occasional use.

Originally Posted by Soodmeg There are a couple things that are getting left out and its kinda of annoying to see people fly of the handle without mentioning these things. Has anyone thought that maybe they did this to HELP people? Seeing has half the country still doesnt own a HD tv and a decent amount of people dont have broadband internet. Those people were paying for a service they couldnt even use. So for them their bill is getting a nice bump down in price. But of course out of site out of mind screw those people. Also, do we not take into account the price to drive to a red box? You guys just ripped Dmaul for not driving 3 miles to one? For one its 6 miles round trip, then he has to go return it which brings it to 12 miles. Would you really drive 12 ing miles to rent a movie? Depending where you live and what you drive that could be anywhere between 3-5 bucks extra. Plus the headache of having to actually drive to a redbox. It reminds me of the people who waste 5 dollars worth of gas sitting in a gas station offering 99 cent gas.

So going by your way of thinking then it's ok to screw the people who do have high speed internet and an HD tv just because some people don't? It's your way of thinking I don't get. IF Netflix came out with the new plans in addition to the existing ones, that would make some sense. They way they are doing it is assinine.

Screwing your existing customer who've had a Combined service is Not a good business model. If most current customers either cancel outright or go with one single $7.99 deal Netflix is going to lose customers and income. To me that makes absolutely no sense.

As far as redbox goes, luckily I have one Everywhere I go. There's one in my local wal-mart, one outside my Turkey Hill, one at Wegman's, and one at Redners Groceries. Everywhere I go I have easy access to one, these are places I'm at multiple times per week, and I usually walk right by without renting because I have Netflix. Now the Redboxes will be my DVD source, if I need to rent something.

The whole thing is overblown. Netflix has been a great deal for a long time and I'm surprised it has taken this long to increase rates. It's a total first world problem (http://whitewhine.com/). The sense of entitlement over this has astounded me

I've already been using redbox quite a bit so going down to steaming only + redbox means it will cost me less.

I barely use DVD so I'll just go with streaming... it's a good service and it's still $50+ cheaper than cable with no commercials.

Originally Posted by praxus07 Screwing your existing customer who've had a Combined service is Not a good business model. If most current customers either cancel outright or go with one single $7.99 deal Netflix is going to lose customers and income. To me that makes absolutely no sense.

That's the real problem with this. There's no benefits being offered to customers who currently have and use both streaming and netflix.

They're just getting a $6 or so price increase, with no talk of service improvements etc.

On top of that, service quality just went down with Sony pulling their titles.

They really needed to do something for current members like keep their plan cheaper than the new options that new customers get etc. Throw your loyal customers a bone here. It's understandable that prices have to go up due to the studios wanting more money for streaming rights etc., but due something to give your current customers incentive to stick by you.

Originally Posted by usickenme The whole thing is overblown. Netflix has been a great deal for a long time and I'm surprised it has taken this long to increase rates. It's a total first world problem (http://whitewhine.com/). The sense of entitlement over this has astounded me I've already been using redbox quite a bit so going down to steaming only + redbox means it will cost me less.

I am telling you..these motherers want literately the god damn world for nothing. They even gave us a option of opting out of one or the other to keep our personally price down. Still not enough. Access to a billion dvds and hundreds of thousands of streaming movies for less than it cost to go to a theater. Thats a horrid deal.

It doesnt matter that about a year ago they drop a BILLION in a 5 year contract (thats not a joke they serious spent a billion) on their streaming content.

Consumer: We want every AAA movie/tv show to be streamed on the day it comes out. No excuses. Netflix: Uhhh sure we can make that happen. But please understand that the licensing for those movies cost a lot of money. Consumer: Look, I dont care just make it happen. Your selection sucks. *A Year Later Netflix: So we followed through on want you wanted. We got inked a deal with lionsgate, MGM and Paramount. We know its not everything but its a start and allows us to stream movies just a mere 90 days after its on Epix. It cost a pretty penny about a billion dollars...so unfortunately we are going to have to raise your rate by 6 dollars...but you do have the option of opting out of the streaming and stick with the dvd only for the same price. Consumer: after reading email.

Again, it's more just a matter that they've upped the price for people to keep both discs and streaming and said nothing about improving the service. Not just that there's a price increase.

And it's made worse by the fact that they're doing nothing to reward loyal customers like giving them a break on the price increase compared to new customers signing up today. Usually when something like this happens, current customers get either grandfathered into deals, or at least get some bones thrown their way rather than getting the same deal someone signing up for the first time today gets.

I understand the need for prices to increase overtime and to improve the service, but $6 overnight is a bit much when it's not accompanied by an instant improvement in selection of streaming content or any other improvements.

For me, as long as they keep offering a cheap disc only plan, I'm relatively happy. I can live without streaming as I really only like to watch at most 2 or 3 movies a week since my hobby time gets split across movies, sports, gaming, reading, tv etc., so I can't get enough movies via disc to keep me happy.

But they need to start getting more Blu-rays of catalog titles as they come out or I'll have to look into the selection of Blockbuster's online rental system as I'm getting a bit tired of paying extra for Blu-rays and having them unavailable for many older movies and having the 28 day wait for new releases (that I believe BB doesn't have).

FYI The Fighter is up. Great movie. I highly recommend it.

I don't mind the increase personally since I was only using streaming anyway, but I don't know a single person that is sticking with Netflix's disc program after this announcement. I know they need to up their intake but I think a more modest increase would have been a little smarter.

Originally Posted by Soodmeg I dont think their major concern was peoples happiness. I think it was holy shit Sony just increasing streaming rights to a bilgillon dollars..we are going to have to find a way to off set the cost. Seriously, how are people this upset over very simple business practices. It was only a 5 dollar increase. I think all this does is finally separate the people who like to watch movies in general (all movies, foreign, non-main stream, indie, etc etc) from the people only want new releases. Netflix WAS NEVER for the person who wanted just new releases all the time. Why do you think they spend most of their money on crazy ass non main stream tv shows and movies....they understood spending 20 million to bring Green Lantern to streaming 2 seconds after it left theaters was not their niche. The amount of shows/films that wouldnt have ever even attempted to watch without netflix is staggering.

No, this isn't just a $5 increase, and if you treat as such, you are either young or just naive. It amounts to a $72 increase if you keep a sub for an entire year. $192 versus $120 or so. Yeah, no thank you. I would rather get an Amazon sub or just use alternative methods like Redbox/BBE/library for movies. My libraries film collection is huge, and the fact that I can reserve/request a title from all the libraries and have them deliver it to that library means it's close in size to Netflix, minus all the shitty titles. Newer titles I can get from Redbox/BBE since they're right next door to one another (same parking lot actually). Also, screw it, I'm a CAG with a huge back log as it is. More time for gaming and finishing my new degree/school.

Originally Posted by HydroX This... Exactly! If you're going to spend an extra $72 on DVDs you might as well go buy the ones you know you'll like with that money.

Yup. I can find movies for $2-$5 and stuff I want to own/watch.

Originally Posted by Soodmeg There are a couple things that are getting left out and its kinda of annoying to see people fly of the handle without mentioning these things. Has anyone thought that maybe they did this to HELP people? Seeing has half the country still doesnt own a HD tv and a decent amount of people dont have broadband internet. Those people were paying for a service they couldnt even use. So for them their bill is getting a nice bump down in price. But of course out of site out of mind screw those people. Also, do we not take into account the price to drive to a red box? You guys just ripped Dmaul for not driving 3 miles to one? For one its 6 miles round trip, then he has to go return it which brings it to 12 miles. Would you really drive 12 ing miles to rent a movie? Depending where you live and what you drive that could be anywhere between 3-5 bucks extra. Plus the headache of having to actually drive to a redbox. It reminds me of the people who waste 5 dollars worth of gas sitting in a gas station offering 99 cent gas.

I'm not flying off the handle; I just hate feeling as though I'm bending over to take in the ass for someone else.

I have Redboxes/BBEs all over by me. They're on my drive to work/school. Also, driving, i can just walk to my Redbox/BBE/library.

Originally Posted by Soodmeg I am telling you..these motherers want literately the god damn world for nothing. They even gave us a option of opting out of one or the other to keep our personally price down. Still not enough. Access to a billion dvds and hundreds of thousands of streaming movies for less than it cost to go to a theater. Thats a horrid deal.

I don't want the ing world. I don't think you've looked out your window lately. 15%-20% are unemployed/underemployed in my city. Obama is going to hold people on Social Security hostage soon. The economy/inflation is still hideous and sucks.

Also, I can go to the movies for $1.50-$5 regularly, if not free. It doesn't matter, as most movies coming to theatres suck. Transformers 3 (free), a Better Life (free), Pirates 4 (free), Green Lantern (free) and they all sucked. Last true, real great film I saw in a theatre that was actually worth it was Inception

It doesnt matter that about a year ago they drop a BILLION in a 5 year contract (thats not a joke they serious spent a billion) on their streaming content.

So they overpaid for content and that's somehow my problem

Originally Posted by Soodmeg Has anyone thought that maybe they did this to HELP people? Seeing has half the country still doesnt own a HD tv and a decent amount of people dont have broadband internet. Those people were paying for a service they couldnt even use. So for them their bill is getting a nice bump down in price. But of course out of site out of mind screw those people.

Or choose not to use it. I kinda thought about that in my previous post , since with the dvd only plan announcement I had only thought about doing that but as mentioned since it seems unlikely for me to go through (at least) 8 movies in a month due either to time or the fact that I have enough movies in my collection to watch that going streaming only instead and using Blockbuster Express to supplement newer releases works better for me. Extra travel distance isn't a problem since the Blockbuster Express is right at where I work , now if I were to use Redbox I would have to go more out of my way.

It reminds me of the people who waste 5 dollars worth of gas sitting in a gas station offering 99 cent gas.

Or people that sit in the parking lot for 5-10 minutes to get the closest spot when they could have parked farther away and already be in the store.

Prices were raised this year because of the contracts they renewed.

It really isnt hard to understand. Their streaming contract is void once they reach certain subscriber. Thats how they lost the sony stuff and could lose more. So losing some members and getting fewer people to pay more would work out better for them

Originally Posted by hiccupleftovers Yup. I can find movies for $2-$5 and stuff I want to own/watch. I'm not flying off the handle; I just hate feeling as though I'm bending over to take in the ass for someone else. I have Redboxes/BBEs all over by me. They're on my drive to work/school. Also, driving, i can just walk to my Redbox/BBE/library. I don't want the ing world. I don't think you've looked out your window lately. 15%-20% are unemployed/underemployed in my city. Obama is going to hold people on Social Security hostage soon. The economy/inflation is still hideous and sucks. Also, I can go to the movies for $1.50-$5 regularly, if not free. It doesn't matter, as most movies coming to theatres suck. Transformers 3 (free), a Better Life (free), Pirates 4 (free), Green Lantern (free) and they all sucked. Last true, real great film I saw in a theatre that was actually worth it was Inception So they overpaid for content and that's somehow my problem

Are you shitting me hiccup? You want to bring in any more out of context left field agenda talk? This is the Netflix streaming thread how you got Social Security, Obama, Unemployment, Economy, Inflation...dude we are not taking on the worlds many problems in the netflix thread. Also, dude you are coming across very entitled me centric here. Your entire post can be summed up with "Well I have no problems clearly its them."

You can find movies for $2 to $4 that you like? Fantastic? What if I dont like the same things you do? Uh oh.

You have so many redboxes they are coming out of your ass? Fantastic...the nearest one to me (like Dmaul) is 5 miles away. Thats a 20 mile trip for a 99 cent movie. I guess that doesnt matter because you have 50 of them. Can you go to some and mail them to me?

You can hit the theater for a buck fiddy? Damn dude can you give Netflix your movie pass? Then we wouldnt be in this mess.

Seriously hiccup if that post isnt flying off the handle I dont know what is. The bottom line comes down to this...if you dont think Netflix suits you than cancel it but thats not really a reason to have a call to arms and think they are the shittiest company known to man. You would honestly think they dumped radioactive dvd cases in a playground. They spent a lot of money on things they thought most people would like, it has to be paid for somehow. Now if you disagree with what they bought/the direction they are going in thats one thing but to sit here and pretend like you just got stab in the heart is bullshit. I just dont understand how anyone could think that its possible for them to get more content (IE spend money) yet you were not going to pay more for it? If it cost them money to bring the content to you then it will cost you money to receive said content. I am sorry but Netflix doesnt offer a dollar menu.

I only graduated from college but I am pretty sure thats how business work.

Originally Posted by fezlopez Prices were raised this year because of the contracts they renewed.

What is that? Logic? There is no room for that here...people are busy being outraged!!!!

Originally Posted by Soodmeg Are you shitting me hiccup? You want to bring in any more out of context left field agenda talk? This is the Netflix streaming thread how you got Social Security, Obama, Unemployment, Economy, Inflation...dude we are not taking on the worlds many problems in the netflix thread. Also, dude you are coming across very entitled me centric here. Your entire post can be summed up with "Well I have no problems clearly its them." You can find movies for $2 to $4 that you like? Fantastic? What if I dont like the same things you do? Uh oh. You have so many redboxes they are coming out of your ass? Fantastic...the nearest one to me (like Dmaul) is 5 miles away. Thats a 20 mile trip for a 99 cent movie. I guess that doesnt matter because you have 50 of them. Can you go to some and mail them to me? You can hit the theater for a buck fiddy? Damn dude can you give Netflix your movie pass? Then we wouldnt be in this mess. Seriously hiccup if that post isnt flying off the handle I dont know what is. The bottom line comes down to this...if you dont think Netflix suits you than cancel it but thats not really a reason to have a call to arms and think they are the shittiest company known to man. You would honestly think they dumped radioactive dvd cases in a playground. They spent a lot of money on things they thought most people would like, it has to be paid for somehow. Now if you disagree with what they bought/the direction they are going in thats one thing but to sit here and pretend like you just got stab in the heart is bullshit. I just dont understand how anyone could think that its possible for them to get more content (IE spend money) yet you were not going to pay more for it? If it cost them money to bring the content to you then it will cost you money to receive said content. I am sorry but Netflix doesnt offer a dollar menu. I only graduated from college but I am pretty sure thats how business work.

LOL....you're ranting at him for being in left field yet you're so pro-corporate it's nuts. And if you can't see that bringing up the economy, or lack thereof, into a thread about how people can't afford a rate hike, then you sir are blind or have your head so far up netflix's butt it's not even funny.

You don't seem to grasp the fact that people are not going to stand for a massive hike like this without some benefit to their service. As of tonight I was streaming Keeping Up Appearances on my PS3, and half the episodes were scrambled. For this kind of service I should be happy about paying 60% more per month?

Netflix says they have over 23 million subscribers, just for examples sake, if all 23 million customers had the $10 plan, they'd be making $2,760,000,000.00 a year, and that's not enough? They can certainly do without my $7.99 dvd plan. But that's just me acting entitled.