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DOA ultimate sucks ass -- first impressions from a diehard fan

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Old 11-02-2004, 09:45 PM   #1
DOA ultimate sucks ass -- first impressions from a diehard fan

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I'll start off by commenting on the packaging, since the shoddy packaging released the first disk during shipping allowing it to rattle around the box and scratch itself.

Next I'll comment on the fact that every other command from the exercise list in disk two's sparring mode is wrong. The manual in the box appears to have the correct moves so far, but it's a pain in the ass trying to balance the manual because every move listed have to be checked against it for accuracy before executing.

Making matters worse is the fact that the timing has been sped up for the correct entry of moves. Meaning if you don't enter the button presses extraordinarily quickly and precisely timed, the game will either execute the wrong move or execute no move at all due to a delay during animation sequences for entering individual moves. This was not a problem in the previous releases of the DOA series, so it's extraordinarily frustrating to me as a veteran of the series. Now theoretically, most people subconsciously adjust their timing once they realize what doesn't work anymore, which is what I think happened since none of the reviews are mentioning this; but as a disabled person who absolutely cannot change their timing to be faster, little tweaks like this are extremely noticeable.

The collision detection for the graphical display of the characters has been shot to hell. In an especially comical moment, one of the girls while standing close to her mirror image began to have sex with the other characters leg with her own. One of those things that has to be seen to be believed! You can see this yourself by standing characters wearing distinctively different colors together and letting the idle animation takeover.

The customization menu in disk two is very cranky about actually customizing anything outside of story mode. Whenever you try to, it makes threats about not allowing you to participate in world rankings.

The opening movie is gorgeous, and very poorly translated. Of course, I admit part of the problem was I couldn't hear any of dialogue in many places due to the God awful remixed Arrowsmith dream on playing in the background, but what I could hear {and understand} was full of half assed translation compromises the lowest common denominator of intelligence. I can read a lot better than I can understand the audibly spoken language, so I may go back to the opening movie later on with Japanese subtitles on, but right now I just don't have the patience for it.

At least one of the costumes unlockable is broken {or very poorly designed}. No. 2 and No. 3 for ayane are identical on disk two. I'm not talking about a mere palette swap, but rather an identical costume that has an identical palette swap for the second player. Considering No. 3 is unlockable, this is extraordinarily disappointing.

Now I love team ninja, and generally will buy anything with their name on it, but short of a really good deal I'm going to hesitate to buy any more upcoming releases from them blind. This lack of quality control is unacceptable no matter how pretty the game is otherwise
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:40 PM   #2
get vf 4 for ps2. extremely better in every aspect that matters in a fighting game.
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:43 PM   #3
SF:AC in February. I know it's not 3D, but I honestly don't give a shit.
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:47 PM   #4
these games are good but they are not graohically improved. They look exactly like the snes versions of the game. Now if they gave the games graphics like street fighter alpha 3, I would buy it in a flash!!!
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:48 PM   #5
bouncy, bouncy, bouncy
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:50 PM   #6
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bouncy, bouncy, bouncy
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:50 PM   #7
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these games are good but they are not graohically improved. They look exactly like the snes versions of the game. Now if they gave the games graphics like street fighter alpha 3, I would buy it in a flash!!!
The hell? I think you didn't read the title and I can only hope you're responding to the Street Fighter comment, not the DoA one.
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:58 PM   #8
i thought the intro was awesome..especially with that song!!!!
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:03 AM   #9
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bouncy, bouncy, bouncy
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:15 AM   #10
I've been informed that the best translation ever, "Everything Is My Bogus!" has been ruined. DOAU can go to hell for that alone, if nothing else.
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Old 11-03-2004, 06:21 PM   #11
of course I was talking about the street fighter commment.
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Old 11-03-2004, 06:23 PM   #12
The game might be fun, but I don't belive that its getting the good reviews that it has. It's not that technical
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Old 11-12-2004, 12:51 PM   #13
I only played the demo, and I thought it was rather easy.....of course, it was a demo. The garphics looked great, but the gameplay was just a fighting game. Didn't like MKeception, sorta liked Def:Jam FFNY....so, I passed on this. Guess I just don't like fighting games much anymore....
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Old 11-14-2004, 08:10 PM   #14
Re: DOA ultimate sucks ass -- first impressions from a diehard fan

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...an especially comical moment, one of the girls while standing close to her mirror image began to have sex with the other characters
Sex is a good thing.
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Old 11-27-2004, 05:00 PM   #15
so how much of an improvement is this game over DOA3?
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Old 11-27-2004, 10:08 PM   #16
All of your complaints are trivial. The gameplay itself is fantastic. Have you even played online, Minx? The experience is incredible. Well done again, Team Ninja. I would discount this "review" and go pick up the game.
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Old 12-01-2004, 07:51 PM   #17
I reviewed the retail version, and I didn't like it that much. Online was very laggy. I think the reason it got such good scores is that, for reviewing pre-released games, you have to make special accomodations for online -- such as playing one-on-one with the developers. This doesn't give you the full experience, so most reviewers didn't see how lame DOA Ultimate's online really was.
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:20 PM   #18
well, looking at the games flaws (which I have a hard time finding) then yes... it is a bad game.

but looking at all the games good aspects (and they far outweigh the bad, since the bad has no weight) it is an amazing game.

jeeze, you didn't even say a single good thing about the game... only the very small tiny miniscule problems... a costume does not make or break a game as well as a manual....

this is obviously a black and white review, and all I see is black... with bounce.
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:25 PM   #19
i rented this and didnt like it that much...im more of a 2d fighting fan anyway...sf ac..im waiiting....
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:27 PM   #20
Meh. I like Ultimate, but yeah minx, most of your points are valid. I can't stand playing on XBL, becuase other peoples' connections lag like hell while I am playing them. I've always thought DOA as a "casual" fighter, and if you think of it in this aspect, it is a good game. If I want a technical fighter, I'll take my SF or VF any day...
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