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Whatcha think? Extraction on Gold for success? Doubt it'd be another promotion run; I'd probably pass if it were.

Originally Posted by IanKazimer http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mass...0731425-1.html Whatcha think? Extraction on Gold for success? Doubt it'd be another promotion run; I'd probably pass if it were.

You'll see so much of the community rage if it's gold extraction

That's kinda why I hope it is, haha.

Originally Posted by Arikado Quotes from the Game Informer cover story months ago

“… part of what you’re trying to do is save the universe so you can live in it. That’s part of the promise, I think, for any great IP. It has to be a world worth saving… I think Mass Effect has that quality to it. If you get rid of the Reapers and win that, wouldn’t it be amazing to just live on the Citadel or just take a ship to Omega? That makes sense.”

Holy shit that's equally funny and sad. What a display of genuine understanding and empathy to what the Mass Effect universe is about.

At what point did they decide, "Hey you know what, screw all that. Let's just torch everything at the end."

99,000 f*cking credits? Holy shit. I'd better get a motherf*cking jet parked outside for the ridiculous amount of effort that's going to take with randoms. Ugh. If ANYONE wants to play ANY difficulty tonight hit me the f*ck up. For real.

I'm all for a Gold community event because I can finally stick it to all those equipment hording bastards when and where it counts. I'll pop in, wait for everyone to waste all their shit then drop out like a bitch or down myself and never use Medigel. I'll do it every chance I get that Friday with a smile on my face.

Originally Posted by Ink.So.Well. 99,000 f*cking credits? Holy shit. I'd better get a motherf*cking jet parked outside for the ridiculous amount of effort that's going to take with randoms. Ugh. If ANYONE wants to play ANY difficulty tonight hit me the f*ck up. For real. I'm all for a Gold community event because I can finally stick it to all those equipment hording bastards when and where it counts. I'll pop in, wait for everything to waste all their shit then drop out like a bitch or down myself and never use Medigel.

I'll probably be on to do some gold since I haven't really played in a week, if Ian or XP are going to be on too we can get a full squad going.

Originally Posted by Soodmeg Also, I thought there were many occasions through out the series including 3 that had plenty of decisions that mattered. There were several people you could save/not save/ several worlds you could save or not save...it seem pretty legit to me. Is the problem that you want more decisions (because I think its unfair to say your decisions didnt matter) or did you just want different ending decisions?

For someone who claims to be annoyed with the constant bitching about the ending, maybe you should read some of the complaints first and realize what we are complaining about you. You just made our point, again.

Throughout the series, our decisions had dramatic impacts on the story. I would guess that almost no one in this thread experienced a story just like the one I played through in these three games. There were just too many choices that had serious impact on the way things played out for anyone to have made ALL the same decisions I did. For 2 games and 9/10ths of a game, we were led down a path where we felt like we were playing one of those "choose your own adventure" games on a grand and epic scale.

And then, in the end, nothing you did really mattered. The only thing that "mattered" is whether or not you got EMR up high enough to get the "ultimate" endings, which were all basically the same. For a lack of a better term, we were cock teased. And not just by their actions...by their words. It's not like we led ourselves astray and got our own hopes up. Bioware kept harping on how the endings would all be different...blah, blah, blah. And what we got were three short, cookie cutter endings.

Did you side with this race or that race? Did you save that person or let them die? Were you able to broker a truce in what seemed like an impossible situation? Did you betray a friend to get what you needed? Eh, none of that really matters, because everyone got the same ending...

Originally Posted by bigdaddybruce44 For someone who claims to be annoyed with the constant bitching about the ending, maybe you should read some of the complaints first and realize what we are complaining about you. You just made our point, again. Throughout the series, our decisions had dramatic impacts on the story. I would guess that almost no one in this thread experienced a story just like the one I played through in these three games. There were just too many choices that had serious impact on the way things played out for anyone to have made ALL the same decisions I did. For 2 games and 9/10ths of a game, we were led down a path where we felt like we were playing one of those "choose your own adventure" games on a grand and epic scale. And then, in the end, nothing you did really mattered. The only thing that "mattered" is whether or not you got EMR up high enough to get the "ultimate" endings, which were all basically the same. For a lack of a better term, we were cock teased. And not just by their actions...by their words. It's not like we led ourselves astray and got our own hopes up. Bioware kept harping on how the endings would all be different...blah, blah, blah. And what we got were three short, cookie cutter endings. Did you side with this race or that race? Did you save that person or let them die? Were you able to broker a truce in what seemed like an impossible situation? Did you betray a friend to get what you needed? Eh, none of that really matters, because everyone got the same ending...

It's like Harbinger was trying to tell us, everything we did ended up being irrelevant

Not that I ever actually wanted the Reapers to lose anyway

I'm down for tonight if you are, man.

Originally Posted by gotdott I'll probably be on to do some gold since I haven't really played in a week, if Ian or XP are going to be on too we can get a full squad going.

Great. I'm going to send you a friend request in a minute. I should be on later tonight. If I am just hit me up anytime you've got space man.

I can also pretty much sum up the "WHY THE F*CK DOESN'T ANY OF THIS SHIT ACTUALLY MATTER" argument pretty quickly for those who are baffled by it.

ME1 = We have to work together! It's time to start caring about those filthy aliens, settle our petty differences, and get it the f*ck together because WE ALL DON'T WANT TO DIE.

ME2 = Didn't I just f*cking tell you we need to work together? Didn't I just PROVE Reapers exist? Man... f*ck this shit I'ma holler at Cerberus. We still have to work together though so TIM better DEAL with me WORKING AND GETTING ALONG WITH ALIENS. Why? Because we STILL DON'T ALL WANT TO DIE.

ME3 = Oh... okay... so NOW that these big scary robots are here you want to start listening to me? Uh huh... right. Well I suggest you sit the f*ck back, shut the HELL up from now on, watch me work and see the POWER OF GALACTIC UNITY IN ACTION BOY! We all care, understand, and love each other damnit. Now we're about to get STUPID up in this bitch. Check it.

All of which actually occurs for 90% of the game until the ending where a certainly little ethereal space being resembling the form of a little demon spawn suddenly changes to channel to the Only Earth and Humans Actually Matter This Entire Time show! Brought to you by IIIIIITTTTT'ZZZZZ SPACE MAG-IC!

Pretty damn disappointing and not something you could see coming from the start.

Feel free add to me. I'd be down for some Silver or Gold. Better than playing with randoms. I might even dig out my headset...not that I'm sure it works...but I'll dig it out anyway...

Originally Posted by Ink.So.Well. I can also pretty much sum up the "WHY THE F*CK DOESN'T ANY OF THIS SHIT ACTUALLY MATTER" argument pretty quickly for those who are baffled by it. ME1 = We have to work together! It's time to start caring about those filthy aliens, settle our petty differences, and get it the f*ck together because WE ALL DON'T WANT TO DIE. ME2 = Didn't I just f*cking tell you we need to work together? Didn't I just PROVE Reapers exist? Man... f*ck this shit I'ma holler at Cerberus. We still have to work together though so TIM better DEAL with me WORKING AND GETTING ALONG WITH ALIENS. Why? Because we STILL DON'T ALL WANT TO DIE. ME3 = Oh... okay... so NOW that these big scary robots are here you want to start listening to me? Uh huh... right. Well I suggest you sit the f*ck back, shut the HELL up from now on, watch me work and see the POWER OF GALACTIC UNITY IN ACTION BOY! We all care, understand, and love each other damnit. Now we're about to get STUPID up in this bitch. Check it. All of which actually occurs for 90% of the game until the ending where a certainly little ethereal space being resembling the form of a little demon spawn suddenly changes to channel to the Only Earth and Humans Actually Matter This Entire Time show! Brought to you by IIIIIITTTTT'ZZZZZ SPACE MAG-IC! Pretty damn disappointing and not something you could see coming from the start.

In addition to...

Hey! Nice job brokering a bunch of peace accords and/or wiping out some errant species and/or leaving the various cultures at each others' throats. In the last 30 seconds of the game, a huge event occurs that completely upends galactic society! Or maybe even destroys it! So everything that came before doesn't really matter, the new reality is isolation, starvation, and resource wars. If the populated planets even still exist. You don't know!

Originally Posted by Ryuukishi In addition to... Hey! Nice job brokering a bunch of peace accords and/or wiping out some errant species and/or leaving the various cultures at each others' throats. In the last 30 seconds of the game, a huge event occurs that completely upends galactic society! Or maybe even destroys it! So everything that came before doesn't really matter, the new reality is isolation, starvation, and resource wars. If the populated planets even still exist. You don't know!

Also...

All those allies you've gathered over the years...that you've spilled blood with across the galaxy...that are basically Shepard's family...uh...yeah...we don't know what happens to any of them. Well, except for Joker and the two random people who hop out of the Normandy with him on some random planet for like two seconds...wait...how'd they get there? Where is there? Why were they in the middle of a jump when the battle was still going on? Wait...EDI was on Earth with me...but now she's on the Normandy...who the...how the...um...

Originally Posted by Ryuukishi In addition to... Hey! Nice job brokering a bunch of peace accords and/or wiping out some errant species and/or leaving the various cultures at each others' throats. In the last 30 seconds of the game, a huge event occurs that completely upends galactic society! Or maybe even destroys it! So everything that came before doesn't really matter, the new reality is isolation, starvation, and resource wars. If the populated planets even still exist. You don't know!

Then there's the harsh realization that the true best thing for Shep to have done was take as few assets to the Sol system as possible. All those people with 7500+ assets? Congratulations, you just increased the number of aliens stranded in our system, likely never to see their home again. Curing the genophage? That just means the Salarians get to keep their troops local. And Tuchanka...it's a barren wasteland as is...without relays, there's no trade to support it, and Wrex is stuck in another system.

And about one ending choice in particular... How did the Synthesis ending work? Did it make Synthetics part organic?

Yo, I'm about to get on NOW.

Originally Posted by Ryuukishi In addition to... Hey! Nice job brokering a bunch of peace accords and/or wiping out some errant species and/or leaving the various cultures at each others' throats. In the last 30 seconds of the game, a huge event occurs that completely upends galactic society! Or maybe even destroys it! So everything that came before doesn't really matter, the new reality is isolation, starvation, and resource wars. If the populated planets even still exist. You don't know!

But Starchild's explanation was ing FLAWLESS man. I totally get it now:

"My organic killing synthetics are SO MUCH better than the ones you'd eventually, possibly, no real way of knowing but COULD TOTALLY HAPPEN to create in the future to kill yourselves with guys. Trust me! Take the Geth for instance! They ALMOST eradicated the Quarians in self defense! They're so hostile and violent and uncompromising! Scary right? I know what I'm talking about here! Think of the CHA-OS!"

No... wait... there it is.

The same conclusion I came to the first time I heard it - incredibly asinine logic is incredibly asinine. My mistake bro.

I mean I know we're beating a dead horse here, but there's so many different problems and plot holes to choose from is there any surprise we've yet to run dry of viable complaints? I'm just saying if there's a way to explain any of this without creating more problems than said explanation solves then whoever wrote it deserves an Internet Hate Immunity For Life card.

Anyway I'm signed on Live now if anyone wants to create a party for MP. Hit me up. If you don't have a mic it's not a deal breaker by any means.

LOTS OF SPECULATION FR- oh it.

I'd be interested in playing tonight, if anyone else is.

However, I'm lacking in the high-leveled characters department, so I'd need to play some Bronze first.

not sure if this whole thing should be spoiler-ed but what the heck:

Are there any writings out there comparing Shepard to any of the great religion's heroes or leaders or what have you? Just wondering. It seemed like he became a "god" of sorts there with that grandpa telling the story to the kid. I'm not much of a religious man but those that are I think would argue that the one they worship didn't die for nuthin'. That the actions they took during life made an everlasting impact so on and so forth. They probably didn't necessarily think their actions were going to make such a huge impact - they were probably just doing what they thought was the right thing to do at the time.

I wish there were MORE in the ending but what happened didn't bother me. I still can't believe all the rage over it. I'm quoting the only person on here I've found that I can agree with so far with COMPLAINTS about the ending:

Originally Posted by bigdaddybruce44 Also... All those allies you've gathered over the years...that you've spilled blood with across the galaxy...that are basically Shepard's family...uh...yeah...we don't know what happens to any of them.

That's really my only major complaint about the ending.

Well, except for Joker and the two random people who hop out of the Normandy with him on some random planet for like two seconds...wait...how'd they get there? Where is there? Why were they in the middle of a jump when the battle was still going on? Wait...EDI was on Earth with me...but now she's on the Normandy...who the...how the...um...

Eh. While I can see that to a certain point, I think it's splitting hairs. We have no idea how long (in real time) passed between getting zapped and waking up on the citadel. Any number of things could have transpired that made those people get back on the normandy. There were also several missions throughout all three games where similar weird time issues arose - you just write that shit off as an edit.
Being in warp was a non issue - to me they had just jumped trying to escape what they saw was a massive explosion of something.
We don't need to know where they ended up and exactly how - I see that as future content to answer.

I remember a lot of the forums lighting up with similar complaints when BSG ended. I liked the ending. I'll never understand people that need a absolutely everything tied up in a satisfactory bow.

I can't wait for Game of Thrones to end it's run.... whooo boy. The internet will likely melt.