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Originally Posted by Arikado Yeah, I think people are getting their hopes up too high and are setting themselves up to get burned. The Extended Cut is just a huge unknown right now.

It's a huge unknown since we have no damned idea what we're getting.

That's why I stopped my first playthrough right before I go pay TIM a visit and go to the Cerberus base. I assumed whatever work they're doing with Extended Cut would be after that point, though once you go down that path, you're locked into the endgame.

When you beat the game it reloads a save right at that point of no return. So you could beat it now and the replay the last couple hours easily when the dlc is out.

Of course even without that one could just keep a save at that point on their own.

Nerf Bat Where Art Thou? - MP Balance Patch Notes:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------- April 24, 2012 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hurricane SMG - Damage increased from [83.3-104.1] to [93.2-116.5] - Recoil reduced Eviscerator Shotgun - Damage increased from [60.0-74.9] to [64.6-80.7] - Encumbrance reduced from [1.5-0.9] to [1.25-0.7] Scimitar Shotgun - Encumbrance reduced from [1.5-0.9] to [1.25-0.7] Incisor Sniper Rifle - Damage increased from [67.8-84.8] to [74.6-93.3] Proximity Mine Power - Base impact radius increased from 2 meters to 3 meters Singularity Power - Base duration that enemies are held in the air increased from 4 to 6 seconds - Base singularity duration increased from 15 to 25 seconds - Evolution 3 damage per second increased from 20 to 50 - Evolution 4 recharge speed bonus increased from 30% to 35% - Evolution 6 detonation damage increased from 300 to 500 - Evolution 6 detonation radius increased from 5 meters to 7 meters Concussive Shot Power - Base damage increased from 150 to 200 Adrenaline Rush Power - Base damage bonus increased from 45% to 50% Marksman Power - Base cooldown decreased from 10 to 8 seconds

Although I appreciate the much needed Human Soldier buffs they could have gone a lot further (especially with Concussion - I would have gone an extra 50 - 100 personally). Not sure why they buffed mine's radius, but I can dig it. I just know any accuracy problems I've had were usually attributed to lag or human error.

Also the Jumbo Equipment Pack is back for 33,000 and thank the man upstairs for it. It's been a Medigel recession over here for days now.

Originally Posted by Ink.So.Well. Nerf Bat Where Art Thou? - MP Balance Patch Notes: Although I appreciate the much needed Human Soldier buffs they could have gone a lot further (especially with Concussion - I would have gone an extra 50 - 100 personally). Not sure why they buffed mine's radius, but I can dig it. I just know any accuracy problems I've had were usually attributed to lag or human error. Also the Jumbo Equipment Pack is back for 33,000 and thank the man upstairs for it. It's been a Medigel recession over here for days now.

Oops I'm slacking, completely forgot it was tuesday lol. Absence of excessive nerfing is interesting indeed.

It just means that when the nerf bat comes, it will hit with the force of a thousand exploding stars...

Tearing rifts in the time-space continuum!

(Which hopefully includes ME3's ending )

My money's on Geth Plasma Shotgun becoming the next victim. I personally can't stand the gun myself but cannot deny it has the potential to make any class look good by itself. Guaranteed top score without even trying. Then again... so can the Carnifex and even while taking its prior nerfs into account people are STILL whining for BioWare to tone it down some more. Matter of fact I ran into a Carn H. Soldier who was demolishing everything under Adrenaline Rush. I had to laugh as that is one of the few occasions I've seen a random NOT suck/forced to try hard using that class.

Now that I've got a Scorpion I've had an excuse to use my Justicar more. I love that gun, but man is it stupid heavy. More so than the Paladin and I didn't think it were possible, but thankfully ten times more useful.

I wish they'd buff the M-37 Falcon up. The nerf was too harsh on that gun and its worth was (and still is) thrown into great question, more so now that the Striker is out.

Agreed. The Falcon serves absolutely no purpose now and I curse the pack gods every single time I end up with an upgrade. Yesterday... I ended up with three of them in a row. I have a Striker VII so... yeah. Useless.

Ahaha Mass Deffect - 9 - The Other Prothean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGQOe...fbRVAAAAAAAAAA

Ehh, ohh HELP, HELP ME! Get AWAY FRom Me you BEAST!

SP - I really don't know how much more epic they could have gotten after the entire galaxy's armada shows up through the relays, I even cheered when that funky asari frigate warped in. reminded me of an old space cowboy movie. after that it was kinda a downward spiral since all I wanted to see was more super galatic battles. Oh the days of EVE...

I like the idea of your EMS having more of an impact on the ending, even global positioning. They could be saving that for the next game. who knows...a ME RTS would be pretty hawt.

MP - yay...more human buffs. hopefully there will be a point where 4 human soldiers will be a viable squad on gold...without having to use warp ammo III, wpn amp III, and the other equipment amp III.

They just need to take the incisor out, it's not the dmg it's the retarded recoil...why would a turian use that instead of anything else? (I can't see it beyond maybe someone trying to look like garrus for a screenie) I will use it at X and see if I can make it work on gold.

Originally Posted by 100xp SP - I really don't know how much more epic they could have gotten after the entire galaxy's armada shows up through the relays, I even cheered when that funky asari frigate warped in. reminded me of an old space cowboy movie. after that it was kinda a downward spiral since all I wanted to see was more super galatic battles. Oh the days of EVE... I like the idea of your EMS having more of an impact on the ending, even global positioning. They could be saving that for the next game. who knows...a ME RTS would be pretty hawt.

Well, the "what" of that is pretty simple. Actually implementing it would have required more time than they had, though.

It's nice having all your friends show up, but they do a pretty good disappearing act. No krogan riding dinosaurs in to battle against brutes, no volus bombing runs clearing a path for geth primes to save quarian marines, no rachni bursting from the ground - you have no ing idea how much I wanted to see rachni fighting in this game - no elcor siege batteries bringing down ravagers, no vorcha dying by the hundreds for every enemy they bring down...

As it stands, the plot-necessary ones just show up for their cutscenes, and some of the more important optional ones - those related to characters from past games specifically - get a few lines of dialogue each, and then... nothing.

There was so god damn much that you could do. But... time an' money, yo.

Time an' money.

Originally Posted by Ink.So.Well. Agreed. The Falcon serves absolutely no purpose now and I curse the pack gods every single time I end up with an upgrade. Yesterday... I ended up with three of them in a row. I have a Striker VII so... yeah. Useless.

I have the Striker up to IV or VI, i forget. I don't remember that it actually bounced rounds off walls and behind corners which was a great feature of the falcon.

I wouldn't say the falcon has become obsolete, it still is a straight shooter, the RoF is actually close to what you would normally want to fire it to administer from CC on an incoming enemy. I noticed before it was nerfed, when you fired at quickly you couldn't stun lock your targets as well. Marksman and Hunter Mode boost the RoF a bit, but you'd probably want a revenant anyway.

Originally Posted by The Crotch Well, the "what" of that is pretty simple. Actually implementing it would have required more time than they had, though. It's nice having all your friends show up, but they do a pretty good disappearing act. No krogan riding dinosaurs in to battle against brutes, no volus bombing runs clearing a path for geth primes to save quarian marines, no rachni bursting from the ground - you have no ing idea how much I wanted to see rachni fighting in this game - no elcor siege batteries bringing down ravagers, no vorcha dying by the hundreds for every enemy they bring down... As it stands, the plot-necessary ones just show up for their cutscenes, and some of the more important optional ones - those related to characters from past games specifically - get a few lines of dialogue each, and then... nothing. There was so god damn much that you could do. But... time an' money, yo. Time an' money.

I'll have to agree with you on that.

when I was able to get EMS over 5000, and my readiness into the 90%+, with all the new friends I made, I was surprised that there was only a hint of the assets recovered were shown. I saved both the quarians and the geth, but only the quarian captain was shown reporting in, no geth prime to talk to either at the end, Tali was there...and sadly no last minute how-do-u-do either. ironic, the more I think about it the more disappointed I get with all the things leading up to the ending.

I also do want to know how my squad mates survived when we rushed the beam. If everyone seemed to have been burnt to a crisp, how do they emerge from the normandy like they're getting off at a bus stop? Ashley was way more @#$% up in the hospital. Rant over.

MP - any word on what this weeks community event will be?

If anyone wants to join me, I'll be doing some rounds later.

Originally Posted by Spybreak8 Ahaha Mass Deffect - 9 - The Other Prothean Ehh, ohh HELP, HELP ME! Get AWAY FRom Me you BEAST!

I would buy that and probably play the game six more times. Actually, I think I'll just pretend from now on that Javik is always talking about wine and complaining about his wife.

Originally Posted by Ryuukishi I would buy that and probably play the game six more times. Actually, I think I'll just pretend from now on that Javik is always talking about wine and complaining about his wife.

Haha yeah, thinking of his ok now what dialog on that mission also made my day.

Originally Posted by 100xp SP - I really don't know how much more epic they could have gotten after the entire galaxy's armada shows up through the relays, I even cheered when that funky asari frigate warped in. reminded me of an old space cowboy movie. after that it was kinda a downward spiral since all I wanted to see was more super galatic battles. Oh the days of EVE... I like the idea of your EMS having more of an impact on the ending, even global positioning. They could be saving that for the next game. who knows...a ME RTS would be pretty hawt. MP - yay...more human buffs. hopefully there will be a point where 4 human soldiers will be a viable squad on gold...without having to use warp ammo III, wpn amp III, and the other equipment amp III. They just need to take the incisor out, it's not the dmg it's the retarded recoil...why would a turian use that instead of anything else? (I can't see it beyond maybe someone trying to look like garrus for a screenie) I will use it at X and see if I can make it work on gold.

Oh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqmy9...feature=relmfu

@ - gotdott - as funny as a group of soldiers is using incisors is, they all had sniper amp III, ammo III, and other equipment III...it's obvious they're a full XBL party and decent. we've played with and avg level of 14, no equipment, maybe 2 rockets and we still beat maps on gold. they just need to lower the recoil and/or boost the damage. Til then I'll take the raptor over the inscisor.

thanks for the link though.

Originally Posted by 100xp @ - gotdott - as funny as a group of soldiers is using incisors is, they all had sniper amp III, ammo III, and other equipment III...it's obvious they're a full XBL party and decent. we've played with and avg level of 14, no equipment, maybe 2 rockets and we still beat maps on gold. they just need to lower the recoil and/or boost the damage. Til then I'll take the raptor over the inscisor. thanks for the link though.

They're just a bunch of masochists . I mean they beat gold with 4 krogan soldiers using only melee and carnage, 4 adepts with -200% recharge, etc. I would have linked you one of my recent games but I don't record. 4 human soldiers is definitely viable on gold, I've done it with two randoms (playing cerb of course).

Edit: That video shows just how bad the incisor is, even in the hands of good players they can't really do much with it haha

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