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I think that its funny the way that after all these years they are still trying

metal arms is a damn good substitute but it is on all 3 platforms.

PS2 is a game console, not a developer. As an inanimate object, it lacks the ability to develop games.

If you're using 'PS2' as some strange metaphor for 'all the studios who develop for the PS2', well then Killzone might shape up into something worthwhile.

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Originally Posted by pukemon metal arms is a damn good substitute but it is on all 3 platforms.

Whats the new one called? I think that its Fire Warrior or something like that. What ever its called its the latest attempt to clone Halo. Its a pretty crappy game though. PS2 developers just give it up. You guys can never make another Halo

Originally Posted by fuchikoma PS2 is a game console, not a developer. As an inanimate object, it lacks the ability to develop games. If you're using 'PS2' as some strange metaphor for 'all the studios who develop for the PS2', well then Killzone might shape up into something worthwhile.

Killzone looks pretty damn cool. I believe its being developed by SCEE, so is it coming to the US? Anyone have a clue about the release date?

Originally Posted by space_rover Whats the new one called? I think that its Fire Warrior or something like that. What ever its called its the latest attempt to clone Halo. Its a pretty crappy game though. PS2 developers just give it up. You guys can never make another Halo

I don't think Sony needs to make a game like Halo. Last time I looked at the sales figures it seemed like Microsoft was getting killed in console sales by the PS2

Originally Posted by CaseyRyback I don't think Sony needs to make a game like Halo. Last time I looked at the sales figures it seemed like Microsoft was getting killed in console sales by the PS2

Sony doesn't really need to do anything at this point. PS2 won by a landslide in terms of sales, and there is no real chance of the others catching up. However I don't really believe that the most popular gaming system/game is really the best. PS2 is very cool, but is not my gaming system of choice right now.

Then why have I seen at least 5 Halo knock offs on PS2 CaseyRyback

Other consoles may not need to "catch up" with Sony PS2 in terms of console sales. We'll see how the next gen console wars are waged. keep in mind XBOX also has XBLIVE subscriptions and gamers are willingly and happily paying $5+ month and the numbers are growing. Plus the XB download content is amazing. simply amazing. new missions (i.e. Armed & Dangerous), new maps, levels, etc constantly being added. more bang for the buck.

PS2 is a great system, so is XBOX, but I can't wait to see PS3 vs. XBOX2 and PSP vs. XBMobile.

Plus, too many retailers going out of business or closing game divisions and perhaps another game industry crash is on the horizon... I believe we're at the 10 year anniversary now. maybe the whole industry won't crash, but perhaps there's no longer room for 3 major consoles. and MS has plenty of capital to survive any crash.

really? 5 halo knock offs? I don't think just because something is a first-person shooter with a sci-fi theme it's a halo knock off. If you wanna go by that you might as well say halo is a knock off of half-life (ione example would be the 2 aliens you encounter "the flood") and that half-life is a knock off of Doom (opening a portal somewhere that unleashes a bunch of creatures). The only thing I've heard of or has been talked about taking halo on is Killzone but that's still pretty early.

killzone will knock halo off the map, halo was good in multiplayer, and hate to be sacreligious, but the single player had a good story but man did it get boring in the library!

Originally Posted by fuchikoma PS2 is a game console, not a developer. As an inanimate object, it lacks the ability to develop games. If you're using 'PS2' as some strange metaphor for 'all the studios who develop for the PS2', well then Killzone might shape up into something worthwhile.

Damn...you beat me to mocking the stupid person. Take away all my fun, why don't you...

Somebody ban this brat.

Can I start a fire here and say that Halo really isnt that good a game to begin with?

Originally Posted by space_rover I think that its funny the way that after all these years they are still trying

Please take your fanboy trolling self back to gamefaqs.

This isn't the place to start flame wars you monkey ass.

Originally Posted by grayghost81 Can I start a fire here and say that Halo really isnt that good a game to begin with?

You can try, but you'd be wrong.

Here, let's formalize our feeling on Halo.
Point 1: It is a good game.

Point 2. It is not innovative. It doesn't really introduce anything we haven't see done in another game.

Point 3.It succeeds because it does things we've seen done well on PC game on a console game.. tapping a new market.

Point 4. Halo has now become overrated. It's a good, perhaps even great, videogame, but it is not nearly the "best game ever made" people try to tack on to it.


Halo 2 is going to have a hard time living up to the expectations people already have for it. People won't be satisfied with what Halo did to become good in the first place... doing everything competently. There's already a HUGE hype build-up for it, and to top it off, Doom 3 and Half Life 2 are likely to ship for it... What people expect from a FPS will likely be much greater... and therefore Halo 2 will likely have to do some REAL innovation this time to ever live up to the piles of hype heaped on it.

Bungie is going have to start to deal with the problem that Nintendo and the other big boys struggle with with thier sequels.... People saying "Yeah, this game is great, but it isn't great enough."

Everything following is my opinion and mine alone:
What really worries me it the shortened development cycle on Halo 2. I have a feeling that Halo started out life as a new iteration in the Marathon series... (Bungie has admitted that stories exist in the same universe) and could have been in development for much longer than people would assume Halo was. For all we know, the game could have been almost ready to be launched on the Mac as Marathon 4, and that Microsoft convinced Bungie to port it to the Xbox and have as a launch title.

I wonder how many Halo "fanboys" actually even know what in the world Marathon is?

Now that you mention it, I did play marathon 2 a few times, but that was like 5 years ago. I never knew a 3rd one even came out.