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You will not feel the same way with this as you would feel on PC FPS games.
How core analog sticks and mouse movements are implemented in FPS games are very different.

If you want to see how this would feel on your PS3, take any of newer Source Engine powered FPS games from Valve and turn on Joystick or Analog control on the option panel.
You might be able to see how it would feel, just a little worse in the actual experience.

P.S. Half-Life: Lost Coast is free on Steam, so in case for some weird reason you don't own any of newer Valve's FPS games, you could try with that.

I still look at this as cheating (when used in multiplayer), I had to get used to playing (FPSs) with a controller just like everyone else that played/plays on pc. Bottom line is these types of things give you an unfair advantage over other people using the standard hardware. That's just my 2 cents.

Anyone with the EE know if you can use the Move navigation controller or G13 with this to retain analog movement?

Yes, I know some people think of using the device is cheating but at the same time it isn't. It's not always going to give you an advantage because it's not exactly going to be fluid and smooth as the same being on a PC, it just emulates the movement but sometimes has a staircase effect but it can be fixed through the adjustments. As for the Move controller, I'm not sure if it will be able to use it (most likely not but someone can try). G13 as in the keyboard? I've tried 2 of my keyboards that light up and they use too much power, you may have to use a different keyboard or get and extra adapter to give it more power to the USB. My G15 and Razer Tarantula don't power up so I just use a generic USB keyboard which works just fine. Keyboards don't have much effect when playing but the mouse will. I use a Razer Death Adder, one of the older ones, I think the DPI is 1800 max? There's a list on their site that shows which mice don't work.

Originally Posted by mkivsuptt Anyone with the EE know if you can use the Move navigation controller or G13 with this to retain analog movement?

No it cannot, but that is actually we are working on. The problem is that the Move nav controller is a wireless device and it may get some of the information from the actual Move controller, so it may not be possible. We are working on it as a possibility.

Oh nevermind I see the analog stick on the keyboard. Unless G13's analog stick outputs a standard Human interface device data, it probably won't work.

Originally Posted by sherisdoppel You will not feel the same way with this as you would feel on PC FPS games. How core analog sticks and mouse movements are implemented in FPS games are very different.

This. Although I'm sure things are a bit different, I went through this on the first xbox with Halo. All my friends wanted me to play, but the control pad was very frustrating after playing FPS on PC with mouse & keyboard.

So, I bought this adapter that let me use a mouse and keyboard. Only it still didn't feel right because the game was made for analog input. I was still getting rolled by people using control pad. I gave up and went back to PC gaming.

Enter xbox 360. Once again I was being pressured to play (CoD this time) by friends at work. Everyone I know has a 360, very few have a gaming computer.. so I forced myself to learn to play a FPS on a pad. It took a very long time, but I finally got it down. I did the majority of my learning in CoD:WaW and ended my career with a horrible K/D ratio. When MW2 hit, I had it down and did quite well.

Long story short; you are probably better off just learning the pad, painful as it may be. Now, what I would recommend is dropping some cash on a FPS Freek for the right stick. Those things are worth every penny.

I'd buy one for the 360 just because most the shooters I play are on 360. Definitely let the CAG community know if you ever come out with a 360 model adapter.

I used the mouse/keyboard for about 5 years and then switched to the xbox controller for the last 4 years.

It would take me a while to get used to keyboard/mouse again, but I'd give it a try for $48+ $2.50 shipping (for the xbox 360 though). :-)

The 360 has a huge install base, but I can imagine it would be a lot harder to develop an adapter for the 360.

Originally Posted by PenguinUnited Oh nevermind I see the analog stick on the keyboard. Unless G13's analog stick outputs a standard Human interface device data, it probably won't work.

I think the g13 analog stick is recognized as a HID Compliant Game Controller in the device manager. Not sure if that is what you mean.

I personally won't do it ( consider it like modding an xbox controller ) but its pretty neat. I play FPS on the console for the most even playing field (everyone has the same hardware, and controlling tech).

Joe

12 bucks off ain't to shabby

Originally Posted by Chickenmumbo Whats the advantage using a keyboard and mouse over my ps3 controller?

Everything.

Is there a BM store that has this setup for testing? I like to try it out before buying it.

To Eagle Eye owners: how is DIAGONAL aiming? Is it accurate/PC-like?

I'm personally waiting for the XIM3 . It's made for the 360 -- and perhaps moddable for the PS3. From what I read, it's due out very soon.

...And NO, I don't work/own stock in that company (unlike the OP for this thread).

Re: 'cheating'. I don't look at it as cheating. If you REALLY wish for an even playing field then EVERYONE must use the RCA connections with their consoles and play on an analog TV with 2.0 sound and a dialup internet connection. Using ANYTHING else is just optimizing your playing experience.
A mouse/keyboard is just an alternative controller, IMO that helps those used to m/k. Does someone using the new silver 360 controller with 'enhanced D-pad' have an unfair advantage over those with the old controller? I don't think so. It just adds to their comfort level with the game.

What's the return policy for the Eagle Eye, in case the 'pretty good job' you did isn't quite up to expectations?


See, I've been down this keyboard and mouse adapter road a few times.
SmartJoy Frag, MaxShooter, XFPS Sniper Pro, etc.
They all have the same problem - a general blanket approach to games that need a unique solution to their look mechanics - deadzone size, deadzone shape, translation exponent, diagonal dampening, smoothness, x/y ratio, acceleration issues, etc.

Does the Eagle Eye adapter address these issues? If so how? Can the firmware in the EE be updated, or will we have to buy a new unit every other year? (aka XFPS.)

From my experience with these adapters, the only adapter I've found that is TRULY almost PC-like, are the XIM adapters. The about-to-be-released XIM3 looks amazing, judging from all the competitive footage and info vids that have been recently put out.


Thanks for the coupon.

You get what you pay for. Eagle Eye, cheap. Only OK with one or two games.

Xim 2 may have been on the expansive side, not very versatile, and somewhat buggy but it let you modify configs which let you emulate a PC feel much better than anything on the market.

Xim 3 fixes everything that was wrong with Xim 2. And provides the option for translators, called Smart translators, that are the most optimal at emulating a PC feel you will get from these devices. So far only the most popular games have Smart translators but the list will grow. That's in addition to the regular translators that you can edit and modify yourself for each individual game.

You have got to be kiddin me......get real...I have spent enough of my hard earned cash on crap... stop pushing crap on the gullible masses. These half assed attempts at emulating kb.m suck fullstop...There are viable alternatives which I wont go into...google is your friend...starts with X :P

Im going to make a youtube vid soon taking a hammer to an Xscortch as proof that I wasted £70 on a lie!

I have Eagle Eye Converter, FragFX and Fragnstein/Scorch wathever you call it. So I´m in a good position to talk.

Let me tell you that none of those adapters are good. It´s all about marketing. They simply emulate an right analog stick in a mouse but it´s not accurate at all even configuring dead zones and stuff. I end up fighting with my mouse playing online rather than killing people. I don´t trust my aim with those products, because sometimes it will jaggle or skip frames and I got killed.

My advice is that don´t waste money on those. The last and final one I bought is called XIM 1 (xim3.com) and this is the only one that gave me a PC feeling playing my PS3. I hesitated a lot before buying it because I felt robbed by eagle eye and other converters, but this one made it. The only downside is that as it uses PC windows acceleration you must have your pc turned on to play, but that´s worth it and I guess in XIM3 (wich is almost out) you don´t need a PC.

So just follow the advice from someone who burnt money in a lot of junk until find the only good product that does what advertises. In my experience, and I´m not a kind of geek, other converters emulation and translation are MILES away from XIM one. Much work to do.

Cheers from Portugal

Very strange thread.

First a straight up advertisement for a product, which was later rectified by including a deal. I'm fine with self-promotion as long as there is a worthy deal in it (<3 Markman).

Then, the previous two posts by newly registered 1 post users (Emanuel83 and leckytech) that are suggesting a different product. My guess is they are from the same IP?

When I was looking at the FragFX Shark (which is another console mouse solution from a different company), I noticed that they do some very aggressive/shady online marketing. It including making fake user accounts to praise the product and accusing real reviews of being fake. Is this market segment really this cutthroat?

Ok i have frag FX V1, Fragnstein, and a eagle eye. they all need alot of tweaking to get it right feel to it (even then they dont feel right). They all try to emulate a analog stick and it took me a long to get used to have played pc fps shooters for life (the only reason i the ones on the consoles is work related).

STICK to the PC, if you must play on a shooter on a console the eagle eye is the way to go, even then i would still would pick up the PC version