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Originally Posted by Oaxan Then what's the point of a Blu-ray? 50gb space for a 7gb game? And don't tell me it's for quality.

So games that need the space can use it? LA Noire for example is three discs on Xbox 360 and just one Blu-ray on PS3 and the same has happened for a number of multiplatform games (Dead Space 2, Mass Effect 2, etc.). Not every game is going to fill up the disc just for the hell of it.

Originally Posted by Oaxan I'm kind of like "lolwat" because I know most PS2 games are about 7 gigs. So why are PS3 games (InFamous, in this case) only 7gb? EXPLAIN TO THE DUMB ASS GAMER (me, lol)

Most PS2 games are NOT 7gb. They are usually 2-4gb. There aren't many PS2 games that need a DL DVD.

But still, I agree that it's crazy that the sizes are so similar considering that all of the textures in these games are at a much higher resolution. I guess it's just that compression techniques have improved since then.

Originally Posted by guardian_owl I'm pretty sure these are going to be downloadable only and thus impossible to resell... Got 2 out of 5 correct, now to decide which 4 to get (have 2 PS3s). Already beat and traded in Infamous so I'll probably go for the other 4, though I didn't really like the wipeout HD demo...

I was talking about my physical copy, which i wont be needing since ill have a digital copy..

Originally Posted by Oaxan Then what's the point of a Blu-ray? 50gb space for a 7gb game? And don't tell me it's for quality.

not all ps3 games can be compressed to 7gb, some are just too big. Yes compression would lower audio/visual quality on huge sized games even force features, levels or whatever to be left out if they had to meet that goal of 7gb. Proper compression takes money, which to us doesn't mean anything but to developers mean not having to dump money on figuring out how to do it.

Its like saying why did ps2 use dvd and not just compress games to fit on a dual layer cd. Some Early ps2 games were on cd though, tekken tag, madden 01, tribes ect.. but once the big quality games came out you never saw ps2 cd games ever again.

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki So games that need the space can use it? LA Noire for example is three discs on Xbox 360 and just one Blu-ray on PS3 and the same has happened for a number of multiplatform games (Dead Space 2, Mass Effect 2, etc.). Not every game is going to fill up the disc just for the hell of it.

I don't know for sure but the inFAMOUS game disc might actually be bigger than the 7 GB it is in download due to the slow spin of the blu ray player in the PS3. Data needed regularly is often put on the disc numerous times to speed up load times. (see Oblivion.)

Those are some good PS3 games they are offering but unfortunately I have them all except for Dead Nation.

So has it been confirmed that you get 2 games per account on your PS3? I hope so, then I can get them all.

Also, does PSN+ give good discounts on games?

They're probably going to limit it to 2 games per system.

I'm definitely picking up Dead Nation, and possibly Super Stardust HD. I don't know what PSP games to get since I don't own a PSP, lol.

Originally Posted by woodcan Those are some good PS3 games they are offering but unfortunately I have them all except for Dead Nation.

Me too... looks like we basically get nothing but digital copies of games we already have but don't need digital copies of. I'm not saying we should get some new releases or anything, but they could have seriously given us a bigger list to choose from.

Originally Posted by INMATEofARKHAM I don't know for sure but the inFAMOUS game disc might actually be bigger than the 7 GB it is in download due to the slow spin of the blu ray player in the PS3. Data needed regularly is often put on the disc numerous times to speed up load times. (see Oblivion.)

That's not what I'm talking about but Infamous would still be 7 GB in that case.

Originally Posted by Vinny Me too... looks like we basically get nothing but digital copies of games we already have but don't need digital copies of. I'm not saying we should get some new releases or anything, but they could have seriously given us a bigger list to choose from.

Or they could have done nothing at all, or perhaps all $5-10 PSN only games.

I'm happy with the list, both Little Big Planets for nothing is pretty nice and the fact that we get to pick 2 for each system is damn fine.

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki That's not what I'm talking about but Infamous would still be 7 GB in that case.

It was more in reference to what the other guy was saying... but I'm not stress it.

Anyone know if there's a list of PS+ discounts? I searched online and most of what I see are post from when the service had just started. I'm asking cause the first thing I'm gonna do once I get my free month subscription is take advantage of the reduced price games.

All free PS+ items and discounts change monthly. For example, new PS+ accounts can't download free items or use discounts that were during a month before their subscription. A lot of people think they can get Plus and then get all the free games and discounts that had been released on the service prior, but no. There's new deals and discounts every month, replacing what was there prior.

This month however Sony is giving PS+ both the April items and the May items at once.

I'll be snagging LBP and Dead Nation. Once the store goes back up they are going to get ravaged with all the downloads so I'm glad to see they will have them up for 30 days.

So do we know exactly when the store will be back up?

Just saw this article on Joystiq about Sony offering free content downloads to those effected by the recent outage. Not some bad stuff and best of all it is free.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/16/so...elcome-back-p/

Some highlights include:


"All PlayStation Network customers can select two PS3 games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after PlayStation Store is restored and can be kept forever.

• Dead Nation
• inFAMOUS
• LittleBigPlanet
• Super Stardust HD
• Wipeout HD + Fury

For PSP owners, you will be eligible to download two PSP games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after PlayStation Store is restored and can be kept forever.

• LittleBigPlanet (PSP)
• ModNation Racers
• Pursuit Force
• Killzone Liberation

And if we own all those games already I assume were just ed

There is other content on there as well such as a free 30 day subscription to PSN+ but really I think the damage has been done to most of Sony's customer base. Regardless free is free.