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Originally Posted by Necrozilla Sledgehammer Games is new, I.W. was gutted of its talent, and Raven makes good, not great games.

Raven also made the Soldier of Fortune series, which includes Soldier of Fortune Payback(Activision).............

Originally Posted by slickkill77 So basically it will be the same exact game as COD 4, W@W, MW2, and Black Ops? Oh wait, of course it will

Probably. It will sell just as good as the others too. Including Black Ops. People talk shit about MW2 then go buy Black Ops, talk shit about Black Ops and now will buy MW3.

Originally Posted by hustletron Raven also made the Soldier of Fortune series, which includes Soldier of Fortune Payback(Activision).............

While they did do the Soldier of Fortune games early on, they actually weren't apart of Payback. That was Cauldron that was the developer for that.

Here is a list of what 360 games Raven has done:

Singularity
Wolfenstein
X-men Origins: Wolverine
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Quake 4

s***s already making pre-order records on amazon

Originally Posted by timesplitt s***s already making pre-order records on amazon

Is there like an article about this or something?

Originally Posted by mvp828 While they did do the Soldier of Fortune games early on, they actually weren't apart of Payback. That was Cauldron that was the developer for that. Here is a list of what 360 games Raven has done: Singularity Wolfenstein X-men Origins: Wolverine Marvel Ultimate Alliance Quake 4

Activision=Raven? Same difference?

I know the old SOF games were good, not amazing, but good cuz I played them on the PC. The point I was trying to make was Activision has its hands in everything now, is this the case with this MW3?

Originally Posted by Trakan Is there like an article about this or something?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers...TT7CY4G0AJZE75

Originally Posted by hustletron Activision=Raven? Same difference? I know the old SOF games were good, not amazing, but good cuz I played them on the PC. The point I was trying to make was Activision has its hands in everything now, is this the case with this MW3?

Activision is a publisher. They have nothing to do with the actual development of the game. They market it. This is the reason why MW2 and Black Ops are drastically different. One was Infinity Ward and one one was Treyarch.

Anyone know if 3rd person is returning this year? That'll be the selling point for me, I really enjoyed it in MW2.

Originally Posted by timesplitt http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers...TT7CY4G0AJZE75

That is just ridiculous. The game hasn't even been formally announced yet, 4 teaser trailers and it's already #4? damn....

Originally Posted by Necrozilla Sledgehammer Games is new, I.W. was gutted of its talent, and Raven makes good, not great games.

I.W + Sledgehammer Games are working on the single-player component.

Raven Software is working on the multiplayer, with obvious input from I.W etc.

Raven has made some good games though such as singularity, it will be nice to see what these 3 teams combined come up with

Too many chefs in the kitchen + delay from restaffing I.W. = more worried than not.

We have just received from an unlikely source – but very trustworthy source – of some big Modern Warfare 3 multiplayer details. Although unwilling to give further details, what with the official gameplay trailer tonight, our source said that further details of it will be unveiled ‘in the coming weeks’. Our source did say that the game will feature cod points, but in a heavily ‘redesigned and refocused way’. This could mean you earn it differently, as he said that ‘wager matches are unlikely to return’. It could also mean you spend it in different ways, as he goes on to say ‘single player has a very multiplayer feel to it, with some interesting ideas to it’. We can only speculate that this may be the ability to buy weapons in single player with cod points, although our source said not to take his word for that specific point. He also said that there will be ‘a huge improvement in the number of maps, modes and game types’, and to expect ‘more people on maps than you would normally expect’. 32 players was thrown about, but he didn’t want to comment any more on it. He did say whilst there will be no more wager matches, as he said Infinity Ward are in the mind of how they didn’t copy Zombies, they won’t copy wager matches, but he did say there will be some incorporated ‘similar modes’ to that of wager matches. He also let slip that ‘they might include teams of three for one mode’ although he stopped into going into any more details, sounding unsure whether it would make the cut. Finally he said there may be ‘up to 23 maps from launch, but they have plans for huge post-support DLC’. This echoes what fourzerotwo said on twitter about Infinity Ward having plans for longer post-launch support. Question is: if true or not – will these enhancements be enough to keep gamers away from other franchise such as Battlefield 3, and stick to their Call of Duty roots? For most it would be, but I would wait until the unveiling to decide whether it will add enough to the experience or not. We would remind you that this is all just rumours at the moment, and we expect some news to confirm or not what we have been told soon. Stay tuned for the latest Modern Warfare 3 news as we get it.

http://www.agamingsite.com/ps3/rumou...etails-leaked/

I definitely don't want to see COD points return. That made the game get boring quicker. I hope they go back to the old way of unlocking things. If it's strictly for the campaign, then that's fine.

23 maps seems like a lot. I don't think the number will be that high. 32 players also seems high. I can see them going to 12 versus 12 though.

EDIT: More info

http://kotaku.com/5804735/the-maker-...warfare-2-tech

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I didn't want to hear that. Looks like MW3 will be a new engine. I have hope that it's just a modified MW2 engine, but now I'm a bit worried. If things like bigger maps and destructible environments are added, gameplay could change and 60 FPS could change.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qI8K...layer_embedded

Holy crap. I WANT NOW.

Blocked Already :/

Edit: NVM, found it elsewhere. Looks good so far, though someone needs to edit it to have the Inception trailer music.

the trailer:

http://www.1up.com/news/call-of-duty...meplay-trailer

Activision ended up posting it early, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coiTJ...layer_embedded

That's what I'm talkin about.

Trailer was alright, cant wait to see what the multiplayer is gonna look like.

Really unexciting after seeing the BF3 trailer.. it's pretty much the same just with worse graphics and the gameplay looks exactly the same as the mw2 and blops. I don't hate CoD, it's just the gameplay overlaps too easy and it blurs. they gotta think OUTSIDE the box.

Trailer looks pretty good.