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I saw in an interview that Nolan didn't have Joker planned for TDKR, and when Heath passed, he decided that he definitely would not include him.

I thought he planed on having the Joker in one more movie after a movie with Two Face. After Ledger died that changed things.

Originally Posted by sendme I thought he planed on having the Joker in one more movie after a movie with Two Face. After Ledger died that changed things.

What?

So I saw the movie for the 3rd time....this time in D-Box format. Never experienced it before but my thoughts is that it was good during all the hand to hand combat scenes.
That arrow hitting the target near Selina gave the chair a good jolt.

i watched the movie for the second time at a local drive in last night. picture quality there is pretty bad and it's hard to see details during night scenes. I enjoyed it the second time as much as the first. Knowing the twists at the end made it interesting to pick up on the little clues given throughout the movie. I think it's an awesome movie, I like Bane even more as a villian the second time watching.

So I picked up a few more things from the 3rd viewing.
-It seems like everyone's acting in this movie is different than their personalities from the first two.
-Bruce sure does go thru several hairstyles throughout the movie.
-Took 8 years for Alferd to give Bruce that lecture and mentioning Rachel?
-No explanation for why Selina put on the suit?
-No cats in the movie ?
-Gordon being so stupid to keep that confession on him at all times to where Bane gets a hold of it.
-No one punishing Gordon at the end for the coverup and allowing him to keep his job.
-Still don't see a valid reason for Blake to quit the force.
-Bruce learning to fly and fix the Bat SO QUICKLY.
-Selina learning how to operate the Batpod and use it so effectively.
-So many WE tumblers (armed) and no one put two and to together connecting them and Batman's tumbler?
-The government not doing much except sending in the SF.
-Everyone in Blackgate instantly supporting Bane and his army and the decision to stay inside Gotham rather than trying to escape from the bomb.
-The entire population of Gotham still well fed and healthy even after being cut off from the rest of the world.
-Selina knowing exactly where bruce and bane where and just in time to save his ass seconds from having his face blown off.
-Batman walking thru the front door and into a Bane's trap....Batman doesn't trust anyone and he just walks with Catwoman into Bane's trap.
-Bruce just forgiving and forgetting Catwoman's set up. This really bothered me. He just let it go even though her actions, caused Wayne to go broke, set him up into Bane's trap which caused Bane to beat the shit out of him and then having him spend the next 6 months in that hell hole pit...man I would be pissed at that and the only thing that would drive me to live would be revenge against her. I'd kill her when I got back to gotham.
-Not one of Bane's thugs recognizes Bruce when he allowed himself to be captured. Bane's army knows who Bruce/Batman is!!!
-Where the hell was Afred all this time??!?!?
-Bruce installed a computer terminal but never fully developed the batcave?
-Bane's excommunication from the league of shadows by RAG. What exactly did Bane do to piss off Raz?
-So Bane was Talia's protector and lover when she was a child in the pit? ummm...creepy.
-If you have been kicked out of the league, why bother trying to carry out the mission of the former leader (to destroy gotham)?
-Instead of splitting the police force up to capture Bane, they focus on going after batman who in the end gives them the finger when he jumps into the Bat and flies away.
-I am still confused about that body transfer from the opening. If you watch, Bane's men brings down a body bag with a body, Bane sticks an IV into the Dr. guy and then pulls him out.... What was that about?
-How did those guns get passed all the metal detectors in the money exchange?
-What was Bane doing when his thugs brought Gordan?
-Batman begging for his life at the end just before Bane was going to kill him?!?!? whaa?!?!?!




The batcave was truly underused. Remember how the other movies, it had cool gadgets and computers and stuff? It would have been since to see other stuff in the cave.

I just got back from my second viewing. It really is better on the second time around. We'll nothing beats seeing a movie for the first time, but coming out of it again it really is great.

I know it has it's issues, and it does run a little long in the middle, but this movie is great. It may not be as good as either of the other Batman movies, but it really is a great ending to a great series.

I could go either way with a reboot or a continuation with JGL as new batman. All I know is I want more Batman.

Extremely excited for Superman. The DC universe is really relying on this movie being successful, and I really hope it does. DC has a ton of potential, too bad they screwed up Green Lantern to the point where they wish it didn't exist. JLA could have had a nice start. Hopefully going forward they have their shit together.

Finally got around to seeing it, definitely the only superhero movie this year that felt truly original.

Originally Posted by ITDEFX So I picked up a few more things from the 3rd viewing. -It seems like everyone's acting in this movie is different than their personalities from the first two. -Bruce sure does go thru several hairstyles throughout the movie. -Took 8 years for Alferd to give Bruce that lecture and mentioning Rachel? -No explanation for why Selina put on the suit? -No cats in the movie ? -Gordon being so stupid to keep that confession on him at all times to where Bane gets a hold of it. (Gordon had come straight from the ceremony and hadn't had time to change. He was remembering Batman at the old signal when he was told about the Congressman and then Selina tricked the thugs into using the cell phone to track them. -No one punishing Gordon at the end for the coverup and allowing him to keep his job. -Still don't see a valid reason for Blake to quit the force. (He was trying to lead a bunch of kids to safety and the cops "just following orders" blew up their then only chance to escape. The words of Gordon about the burecracy rang so true to Blake and he decided to go with Wayne's route of protecting Gotham.) -Bruce learning to fly and fix the Bat SO QUICKLY. (Wayne is nearly as brilliant a mind as Fox, and Fox even jokes if Wayne spent some time on it at the beginning he could probably fix it.) -Selina learning how to operate the Batpod and use it so effectively. -So many WE tumblers (armed) and no one put two and to together connecting them and Batman's tumbler? -The government not doing much except sending in the SF. -Everyone in Blackgate instantly supporting Bane and his army and the decision to stay inside Gotham rather than trying to escape from the bomb. (He freed them and probably promised them safety. They're not the most rational of people, they followed the Joker and nominated Scarecrow as executioner.) -The entire population of Gotham still well fed and healthy even after being cut off from the rest of the world. (Bane had supplies being brought in by the government otherwise he threatened to detonate the bomb. Remember that's how the SF guys got in.) -Selina knowing exactly where bruce and bane where and just in time to save his ass seconds from having his face blown off. (She knew he was going to City Hall and since they weren't outside it's pretty easy to know they would be inside.) -Batman walking thru the front door and into a Bane's trap....Batman doesn't trust anyone and he just walks with Catwoman into Bane's trap. -Bruce just forgiving and forgetting Catwoman's set up. This really bothered me. He just let it go even though her actions, caused Wayne to go broke, set him up into Bane's trap which caused Bane to beat the shit out of him and then having him spend the next 6 months in that hell hole pit...man I would be pissed at that and the only thing that would drive me to live would be revenge against her. I'd kill her when I got back to gotham. -Not one of Bane's thugs recognizes Bruce when he allowed himself to be captured. Bane's army knows who Bruce/Batman is!!! -Where the hell was Afred all this time??!?!? -Bruce installed a computer terminal but never fully developed the batcave? -Bane's excommunication from the league of shadows by RAG. What exactly did Bane do to piss off Raz? (You answered your own question below. No one is good enough for Talia. In the comics the only one he deemed good enough for her was Batman.) -So Bane was Talia's protector and lover when she was a child in the pit? ummm...creepy. (He was just trying to protect the child of his master. When Talia grew up he came to love her since she got him his freedom.) -If you have been kicked out of the league, why bother trying to carry out the mission of the former leader (to destroy gotham)? (He was doing the wishes of his lover, Talia, and wanted people to suffer.) -Instead of splitting the police force up to capture Bane, they focus on going after batman who in the end gives them the finger when he jumps into the Bat and flies away. (The police chief is wanting the "glory" of capturing Batman to do what Gordon didn't and probably thinks he'll become mayor/famous. Blake chastizes him for ignoring Bane and he ignores him.) -I am still confused about that body transfer from the opening. If you watch, Bane's men brings down a body bag with a body, Bane sticks an IV into the Dr. guy and then pulls him out.... What was that about? (Bodies would be too mutilated to identify by looking so they took blood samples and the Dr's blood was in the cadaver.) -How did those guns get passed all the metal detectors in the money exchange? (The gunmen were all the janitors, shoeshiners, 99%'ers, etc. and I guess we assume they don't go through the metal detectors in the workers' entrance.) -What was Bane doing when his thugs brought Gordan? -Batman begging for his life at the end just before Bane was going to kill him?!?!? whaa?!?!?! The batcave was truly underused. Remember how the other movies, it had cool gadgets and computers and stuff? It would have been since to see other stuff in the cave.

I just saw the movie for the first time and those are the answers I can think of.

Originally Posted by E_Man This a dumb question but do any of you guys know where I can buy those Mountain Dew cans with The Dark Knight Rises on them? I'e been to every store and haven't seen one yet.

Are they exclusive to theatres? They were at the concession stand when I went to go watch it today.

Edit: I guess it's just sold out in high traffic stores I guess from reading posts after yours.

Well that sucks.....hope its on the bluray release it if was indeed shot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiwT1enDz-Q

talia. Shame they cut his backstory

I know right? I was ready to accept it as him being the son of RAG.

So watching the movie for the 4th time here are more thoughts...

-Bruce has been out of action for 8 years and using a cane to aid him. I seriously doubt he kept his body in combat ready shape all those years.
-Fox should have given him a new suit to help him be more mobile again (like a nod to batman beyond).
-I liked the nod to the first film where Bruce used his "pre-yelling" batman voice when he was talking to Gordon in the hospital.
-The more I see John Blake, the more I don't like him. This was nolan's way of telling WB/DC , "If you want to continue the batman story, here is his successor and the guy I want to replace Wayne with..."
-Batman goes from being depressed/secluded to ready to get back into action to fight Bane. It's no wonder Batman was defeated by Bane during the first encounter.
-Fox was sure quick to finish, arm and paint the Bat by himself after he showed it to Bruce.
-If the government was monitor the situation up to the detonation, wouldn't their satellites picked up Bruce escaping from the Bat prior to leaving the coast?
-Why would Bruce fake his own death? If the league continues to exist, they would certainly notice someone who looked like Bruce and Selina.

suspension of disbelief

Originally Posted by ITDEFX So watching the movie for the 4th time here are more thoughts... -Bruce has been out of action for 8 years and using a cane to aid him. I seriously doubt he kept his body in combat ready shape all those years. -Fox should have given him a new suit to help him be more mobile again (like a nod to batman beyond). -I liked the nod to the first film where Bruce used his "pre-yelling" batman voice when he was talking to Gordon in the hospital. -The more I see John Blake, the more I don't like him. This was nolan's way of telling WB/DC , "If you want to continue the batman story, here is his successor and the guy I want to replace Wayne with..." -Batman goes from being depressed/secluded to ready to get back into action to fight Bane. It's no wonder Batman was defeated by Bane during the first encounter. -Fox was sure quick to finish, arm and paint the Bat by himself after he showed it to Bruce. -If the government was monitor the situation up to the detonation, wouldn't their satellites picked up Bruce escaping from the Bat prior to leaving the coast? -Why would Bruce fake his own death? If the league continues to exist, they would certainly notice someone who looked like Bruce and Selina.

Bruce faked his death because he was done being batman.

You guys are really over analyzing a movie about Batman.

Also, for anyone saying Bane is Latin American - he's not. His father is King Snake/Edmund Dorrance, a British mercenary. Dorrance was sentenced to prison in Santa Prisca, but Bane served out the sentence instead.

Originally Posted by JJSP You guys are really over analyzing a movie about Batman.

It's better than analyzing something like Citizen Kane

Originally Posted by JJSP You guys are really over analyzing a movie about Batman. Also, for anyone saying Bane is Latin American - he's not. His father is King Snake/Edmund Dorrance, a British mercenary. Dorrance was sentenced to prison in Santa Prisca, but Bane served out the sentence instead.

Like I said earlier, I was ready to accept Bane as the son of RAG...until Tate opened her mouth........

Originally Posted by moon_knight Bruce faked his death because he was done being batman.

Here is how you are done with being batman......blow up your cave and destroy everything Batman related.... remember Alfred said the city needs Bruce more than Batman. He was sure quick to hook up with Selina rather than finding someone else. Yeah...like that relationship is gonna last.

Just because he was done,it doesn't mean he didn't want a sucessor.