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Did we get full Wii games shown to us in mid-2005 (when the console launched late 2006)? I don't know what some of your expected to see for a console (maybe...heh) that far off.

The console was right there. Why not talk about it? I'm so damn confused.

So does this mean some Wii games will be developed to utilize the controller?

What is going on. This isn't life.

Perhaps they just don't have much to show yet. It's still early. Vita is coming out this year isn't it? So obviously they could show more content now for it. Wii U won't be out until next year, and perhaps not until the end of next year.

Which is not to say that I think their presentation succeeded. They did a craptastic job of making it clear that there was actually a new console, and the controller... well the verdict is out on that thing. It's so huge. Hopefully not heavy as well.

Wait what?

http://kotaku.com/5809482/the-is-the...sole-the-wii-u

I thought the wii u was a controller for the Wii, but that is the system it works for? Im confused.

Originally Posted by MSI Magus I dont think that the NGP line up is a smash or anything, but I mean come on they announced at least 3 of their big games for it.

Which you can play on your PS3. How is what Nintendo showed all that much different?

Originally Posted by confoosious They don't have to announce anything exclusive because we all know it's coming. Do you seriously think no mario for the WiiU? And this is an example of you can't please everyone. Some people want the new mario and some people call it a rehash of all old games.

"Knowing" something is coming is not the point of E3. E3 is for announcing new stuff and exciting the base and media. Also by failing to show anything it means Nintendo failed to show off the potential of their system. As it stands what they showed us was a new PS3/360 SKU.

Originally Posted by lilboo And that's great if it's on par with PS3!.. but PS3 is the current generation of consoles.. this is supposed to be "next gen". -- This Chase Mii is ridiculous. But I guess we're retards if we don't like it.

I always considered the Wii as an alternative, not a next gen console. I will consider this to be another alternative.

The Wii has graced me with No More Heroes, and Mario Galaxy, hands down my two favorite games this gen. I am just happy I can play these games without wanting to rip my eyes out now in front of my HDTV (Seriously some Wii games are painful to look at).

Originally Posted by Rig Did we get full Wii games shown to us in mid-2005 (when the console launched late 2006)? I don't know what some of your expected to see for a console (maybe...heh) that far off.

it's time for all sane people to leave this thread.

it's just gonna be full of bitching and whining. As if Nintendo was gonna show us everything in a 1 hour presser.

Now if they didn't show a new console and just the tablet/controller, then yeah, that would've been a huge up.

But it looks like an HD console with 3rd party support is coming, with a very cool controller, and people are still bitching. FFS. Nintendo addressed their 3 biggest complaints: HD, 3rd party support, and online play. I'm still worried about online play but the other two are huge wins.

The pricing might suck though.

Originally Posted by TheLongshot Which you can play on your PS3. How is what Nintendo showed all that much different?

Ermmm they are not the same games. The Vita games as far as I know are brand new games....so no its not the same what so ever. The Vita is also a cutting edge piece of tech as far as handheld goes where from what we see of the new Nintendo console its already out of date.

Originally Posted by phantomfriar2002 Some of you guys are hilarious. The one thing the Wii was missing seems to be what they are targeting with the Wii U. "Open multiplayer," 3rd party support, obviously 1080p graphics, and a controller that looks cool? Was there something else they were supposed to do? Seriously, shit all over Nintendo all you want, but that was a hell of lot more interesting than a whole bunch of sequel games coming out in 2012 and Move/Kinect garbage that Sony and MS showed yesterday.

They showed a bunch of games that will release after they've been out on PS3/360 for a while and we're supposed to get excited? This was their chance to leapfrog the competition with a more powerful system and some groundbreaking exclusives. They provided us with what we needed, not what we wanted.

Originally Posted by The 7th Number Wait what? http://kotaku.com/5809482/the-is-the...sole-the-wii-u I thought the wii u was a controller for the Wii, but that is the system it works for? Im confused.

This is the most confusing thing about Nintendo's conference. They marketed it like it was just a controller, then they start mentioning the HD console without any revealing of it. Makes no sense and left a lot of people confused

That shit was baffling, ign has pics of the console up but the presentation didn't show it. Reggie kept saying controller at first then switched to console without showing it.

that controller was huge. wonder how much a second one would cost.

All of the console announced just seem to have remakes of games that we already own, provided you own those consoles. I mean the 3DS just has remakes of DS games if you look at the release lists, and the Vita just has remakes of LBP and modnation racers both of which I got for free from the welcome back package on my PSP. Wasn't uncharted the game released for the launch of the PSP? I do like LBP a lot however I am not sure if I want to buy another console just to play the sequel.

Of course you have to consider my very narrow gaming tastes, I am not a fan of mario games and I like RPG's which none of these press conferences offered any information on whatsoever. Also no Pokemon RPG games, and no Pokemon games which are my favorite games ever mean no sale at least for me.

I am not paying $250 to look at pretty pictures of Pokemon in 3D.

There is very little in the way of actual NEW games announced here.

The Wii U is a console you can play without a TV, from my understanding. I really like the idea, but if the game are not there like with every other console, its a bust. They focused on the controller but what it is is the console will stream games to the controller over some kind of local wireless. They said this in the press conference. Of course you can also use a TV. I like this because I don't have to buy a new TV just to use the console, I hope it is able to be hooked up to a CRT TV so I don't have to buy a new TV even if it didn't you can still stream games to the controller.

Originally Posted by confoosious Wow, i was really worried for a while there. But I'm on board now. The controller looks awesome. I don't care if it isn't more powerful than the 360. I just wanted it on par.

Wait...what?

No, you shouldn't want it on par. You should want it a good notch above in power, because when the next xbox/ps4 come out, the Wii U will be left behind, and you might get the same crap 3d party support again.

I'm interested to see the specs. Remember the first gen 360 games? Didn't look much better than last gen PS2 games.

Originally Posted by confoosious it's time for all sane people to leave this thread. it's just gonna be full of bitching and whining. As if Nintendo was gonna show us everything in a 1 hour presser.

I honestly do not think you know what E3 is....

Nintendo offered the following loose technical specifications to Kotaku in a pre-briefing on Nintendo's New Console. High definition display, up to 1080p resolution via HDMI output 6.2" touchscreen on New Controller, running in non-HD resolution Internal flash-based media storage, upgradeable via USB and SD carts Games ship on proprietary iDensity discs of unspecified, but "large capacity" Games will also be available as downloadable content Console compatible with Wii games and devices Release date between April 1, 2012 to December 31, 2012; or after the end of Nintendo's fiscal year

http://kotaku.com/5808704/this-is-ni...new-controller

So we got online gaming in battlefield 3 and ghost recon online.
We got graphics on par with PS3/360 which should be good for a whole year before the 720/PS4 is out in 2013 to outpace WiiU graphics - so multiplatform games will only essentially be equal for a year or so if that
They didn't talk about the console itself or the price. Between a upgraded consoles with full backwards compat and a tablet controller I'm thinking $400+

This was the best E3 conference but WAY too many questions unanswered.

If Nintendo wants me to buy a Wii U, they need to show me stuff I can't already get with what I currently have. "Gameplay Demos" aren't going to cut it for me.