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Originally Posted by The 7th Number Well i dont know if i would play it through twice. I didnt play borderlands 1 on a second playthrough, just because to my knowledge it would be the same thing just tougher enemies. Which doesnt really appeal to me. There were some areas in that game i hated to go into, just because enemies always respawn and you have to kill them over and over no matter how many times you clear the area out.

You want to go through the game again so you can get to Level 50 and be able to take down the 7 raid bosses (1 from main game, 2 in each DLC) with others. If you do all the quests except the raid bosses/LVL 3 Torque arenas in the main game plus all 3 DLC's in playthrough 1 you'll be about Level 41 to start playthrough 2 (known as True Vault Hunter Mode or TVHM.)

The Mechromancer was free with preorder but $10 separately but I would rank her as one of the top 3 characters depending on your stance on Commando and Siren. Like others said she was on sale a couple of weeks ago.

Concentrate on getting a character to 50 first though. Beware on playthrough 1 Scarlett and Mr. Torque top out all the enemies/quests at Level 33, while enemies can get to Level 38 or 39 on Sir Hammerlock.

Originally Posted by MSUHitman You want to go through the game again so you can get to Level 50 and be able to take down the 7 raid bosses (1 from main game, 2 in each DLC) with others. If you do all the quests except the raid bosses/LVL 3 Torque arenas in the main game plus all 3 DLC's in playthrough 1 you'll be about Level 41 to start playthrough 2 (known as True Vault Hunter Mode or TVHM.) The Mechromancer was free with preorder but $10 separately but I would rank her as one of the top 3 characters depending on your stance on Commando and Siren. Like others said she was on sale a couple of weeks ago. Concentrate on getting a character to 50 first though. Beware on playthrough 1 Scarlett and Mr. Torque top out all the enemies/quests at Level 33, while enemies can get to Level 38 or 39 on Sir Hammerlock.

Raid bosses are now lower level on playthrough 1. Level 30 or 35 I believe.

When did they change that? All my raid bosses are still 50 on P1. I guess mine are stuck since they were already "activated?"

I'm still not a 50 so they're just sitting in my quest log.

Originally Posted by Corvin When did they change that? All my raid bosses are still 50 on P1. I guess mine are stuck since they were already "activated?" I'm still not a 50 so they're just sitting in my quest log.

i don't think so,
I was able to go back and beat master gee with that patch. He was 50 for me (pt1), when I just went back the other day and tried again he was a 32. So much easier!

I want to say some time in December. I had activated one and was waiting to hit 50 to do it (master gee I believe) then when I went to do it the quest changed and he was level 30 something. Teramorphous was still level 50 though but all the dlc raid bosses seem to be lowered on playthrough 1.

Originally Posted by Leaptrade Or do the second playthrough co-op. Even though you are doing the same stuff, it still seems pretty fresh with a buddy or two at your side.

This or you can run around with other people online too.

Originally Posted by The 7th Number There were some areas in that game i hated to go into, just because enemies always respawn and you have to kill them over and over no matter how many times you clear the area out.

Reminds me of the shock crystal harvest in the Lost Cave. That mission was the bane of my existence.

Also, as posted earlier, consider the retail add-on pack for possible savings:

Originally Posted by Ryuukishi 2K Publishing a Borderlands 2 Retail Add-On Pack Kind of weird that it only contains the first two campaign DLCs in addition to the non-campaign stuff. Is there going to be a "Add-On Pack Part 2" when all four are out?

So i installed the game, redeemed all these shift codes, and now im sitting here trying to decide which character to be lol. I was Lilith in the first game. Not sure if i should be a siren again. Zero seems cool but i dont really like sniping. The commando guy seems like the turrets would come in handy, but he seems a little boring. The Gunzerker seems pretty badass, but i read it really depends on which guns you find to utilize his duel wielding skills to the max. Any ideas?

I think my play style is stealth, i trying to shoot first before they see me. Used a lot of elemental guns in borderlands 1. Mainly pistols, repeaters, and sometimes SMG.

Zero is also a melee class. I never really used the sniper tree. Shotguns and melee attacks with him are brutal! His deception skill lets you sneak in quickly and unleash on mobs. I could take out a entire camp without coming out of deception and being noticed.

The only real choice is Maya.

If you want Elemental then you want Maya. You can build her like I did in going 1/2 down the healing tree, then switching over to the elemental tree.

Go down the healing tree until you hit level 20 (5 in Sweet Release, 5 in Restoration, 1 for Res, 4 in Elated) then go down the elemental tree until you hit 46 (5 in Flicker, 5 in Helios, 1 for Acid Cloud, 4 in Backdraft, 5 in Reaper, 5 in Blight Phoenix, 1 for Ruin) then put the last 4 points in Sustenence back in the healing tree.

Pistols and repeaters are one gun class now, basically the repeaters are all pistols by Jakobs, everything else is pistols. Each gun maker has their own quirk now (Dahl burst fire when ADS, Torque are all explosive rounds, Maliwan are all elemental, Jakobs are all repeaters, Hyperion become more accurate the more times you fire, Tediore guns are thrown and explode when you reload as a new one teleports into your hand, Bandit have the largest ammo clips, etc.) Maya works best with elemental pistols, SMG's, snipers, and then shotguns for when you get surrounded or to fight the crystalisk enemies.

More BL 2 Golden Key codes:

PS3: 5TKB3-R9CKT-K5WKT-H3CJT-BZF56
PC/Mac: W3CJJ-BZR5C-ZK6T3-TT3TT-JS6T3
360: 5TCJB-35RZC-ZHXBR-56B3J-3SSHK

As a Lilith player in Borderlands 1, I'd definitely recommend Maya to start. (Though if you were primarily into Lilith for the stealth/sneak aspect of Phasewalk, Zer0 might be a better choice.)

Though I think the classes are a lot better balanced in 2 honestly. In 1 I sincerely felt like Siren was way OP compared to the others, but in 2 everyone has a lot to offer. Gaige is really great if you're going to be playing offline because the robot is almost like having another player.

Brother Daz has me thinking about Zero. Maya might be good, but idk if i really want to use the same type of character as i did the first game. Guess ill have to think about it more.

Yeah im planning on doing it solo. Not sure i want to spend 10 dollars on Gaige though. But she does look cool. But i read someone say she can be OP early but end up weaker at higher levels. I dont know.

Once i use the shift keys, is that it? I cant use them for another character too?

They keys are input in the menu, and it's shared amongst all your characters. You have a single pool of golden keys. When you use one, the chest gives you stuff the same level as your current character. There's also a locker in the main town that lets you store 4 items that your other characters can access, so you can pass down gear.

Originally Posted by elessar123 They keys are input in the menu, and it's shared amongst all your characters. You have a single pool of golden keys. When you use one, the chest gives you stuff the same level as your current character. There's also a locker in the main town that lets you store 4 items that your other characters can access, so you can pass down gear.

Yeah I would try to hold off using keys until you're near the end of playthrough 1 at the earliest.

I wouldn't worry overmuch about running out of keys. There have been like 100+ codes so far; just follow the thread so you don't miss them while they're valid. Whenever you feel like your inventory is getting stagnant and you haven't found any good weapons for a few levels, spend a couple of keys.

Originally Posted by Ryuukishi I wouldn't worry overmuch about running out of keys. There have been like 100+ codes so far; just follow the thread so you don't miss them while they're valid. Whenever you feel like your inventory is getting stagnant and you haven't found any good weapons for a few levels, spend a couple of keys.

Yea, I agree with this. A good weapon for the 10s, and another for the 20s gets you through most of the first playthrough.

New code today:

PS3: CTWJT-9H55T-5CKKJ-ZBCTT-XHKWR
PC/Mac: WTWT3-596CW-ZKF33-TJ333-9JSRZ
360: WBKTJ-C56S5-HZFTF-WFBB3-XWJ5S

Edit: Don't seem to be working anymore.

I started an assassin character and played online co op with my son. I got him to level 18 and didnt spend any skill points. I started a single player game with that character, however even though he was level 18, I didnt have any points to spend. Is this character bugged or when can I spend skill points? Do I need to get to lvl 19 in single player to see the available points show up (should be quite a few unused points). Or do I need to get him to 19 online co op and spend all of the points there? I played a comando to mid 20's and a gunzerker to 28 and wanted to play with Zero, just didn't feel like grinding thru the early missions at low lvl again.