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NFL Sunday Ticket Back for 2012 - Free for NFL STM Subs, $299.99 for Everybody Else

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Old 08-18-2011, 06:54 PM   #21
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Frisky, do you know if the $50 is for all DirectTV customers? As in people who don't subscribe to Sunday Ticket already could get it on their PS3 for $50? Some in the VG deals section are saying that's on top of the subscription to Sunday Ticket, but that doesn't make sense when Sony goes on to say that existing Sunday Ticket members can access it for no additional charge.

edit: Okay the current interpreation I'm getting is the $50 is just to use the PS3 as an additional receiver and has nothing at all to do with Sunday Ticket specifically. Sunday Ticket subscribers can access the games through the PS3 but cannot use the PS3 as a DVR receiver, unless they pay the $50 fee. It's written pretty vaguely on the Blog so it's causing a lot of confusion on various forums/news sites I go to. Sony has also removed the $50 wording from the main article (you can see it in the preview still from the main blog page)

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Old 08-18-2011, 07:08 PM   #22
Common sense and the "additional $50" wording tells me that you need a sub to NFL Sunday Ticket first if you're already a DirecTV subscriber and the $50 lets you watch those games on the PS3.

I don't know why there would be a deal thread for this since it's not a deal. This is full price and the deals forum isn't for news.
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Old 08-18-2011, 07:30 PM   #23
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Common sense and the "additional $50" wording tells me that you need a sub to NFL Sunday Ticket first if you're already a DirecTV subscriber and the $50 lets you watch those games on the PS3.

I don't know why there would be a deal thread for this since it's not a deal. This is full price and the deals forum isn't for news.
I would say in addition to Sunday Ticket too as I'd be surprised if they gave all DirecTV customers access for just $50, BUT they edited the blog post after you made this thread to add:

"Existing DIRECTV customers who already have NFL SUNDAY TICKET and NFL SUNDAY TICKET To-Go through DIRECTV can access the service on their PS3 for no additional charge."

So the $50 isn't just for existing Ticket members to access the games since that's apparently free. They've also removed the $50 part from the main article btw. A deal thread wasn't made about this, it's in the PS3 price drop thread currently.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:57 PM   #24
The $50 part is still there. I don't see how they'd offer NFL Sunday Ticket to DirecTV customers for $50 while those that forked over the $335 before this was announced get screwed over.

It does say "AND NFL Sunday Ticket To-Go," which is apparently a service that lets its subscribers stream games on the PC and phones. So the free part is an extension of NFL Sunday Ticket To-Go. If you don't have that but do have the normal season sub, it's $50 to enable streaming on the PS3, which seems to be the cost of To-Go anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nfl_sun...Extra_features
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Old 08-18-2011, 10:38 PM   #25
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If you are an existing direct tv customer it costs 335 for sunday ticket. The 50 dollar price for existing customers is in addition to whatever they already pay for Sunday Ticket-all the Ps3 will do for people who already have direct TV is give them an additional box to watch it from.

IF you arent and existing customer they always have deals, but those deals are temporary. Right now, new customers can get sunday ticket for free, but I am not sure if that is for longer then the first year. Unlike cable, Direct TV requires a contract, I think 2 years, so the temporary deals aren't so great over the long haul.

Sure 340 bucks is a lot, but I would rather pay that price and keep cable and not get locked into a long term contract with a service I do not want. This is a very positive move for NFL fans IMO. I believe its the first time we have access to sunday ticket without having to switch to satellite. As I said earlier, I am really surprised Direct TV is no longer chaining sunday ticket to their long term satellite contracts.
That makes sense. I had no idea that the Sunday Ticket was so expensive. For me 340 is too steep. But if you want that service then hell yeah, this is a great opportunity because like you mentioned, you don't have to swtich over to DTV just to get the ticket. This is good for DTV because I'm sure there's a lot of NFL fans who would love to have that NFL ticket, but don't want to switch to satellite. But you know DTV has a lot of customers who might want to opt out of their packages if they only signed up for the NFL Sunday Ticket service, now that its available outside of DTV.
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Old 08-18-2011, 10:56 PM   #26
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Why can't they just make a package for one team? Paying 300+ for 32 teams where you'll probably won't even watch half of them is stupid.
That's what I want, a 1 team package.

I don't understand paying for all the games when they pretty much are all on at the same time anyways. It would be different if it was 2 games a day 7 days a week and you could watch them all.
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Old 08-18-2011, 10:57 PM   #27
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That makes sense. I had no idea that the Sunday Ticket was so expensive. For me 340 is too steep. But if you want that service then hell yeah, this is a great opportunity because like you mentioned, you don't have to swtich over to DTV just to get the ticket. This is good for DTV because I'm sure there's a lot of NFL fans who would love to have that NFL ticket, but don't want to switch to satellite. But you know DTV has a lot of customers who might want to opt out of their packages if they only signed up for the NFL Sunday Ticket service, now that its available outside of DTV.
Which is better for them in the long run because they just get paid for the stream, which is low maintenance for the most part. They won't have to deal with sending out workers and hardware to customers and all of the costs associated with that part of the business.
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:13 PM   #28
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Which is better for them in the long run because they just get paid for the stream, which is low maintenance for the most part. They won't have to deal with sending out workers and hardware to customers and all of the costs associated with that part of the business.
Direct tv pays 1 billion a year for the exclusive rights to NFL. 340 bucks is a drop in the bucket compared to forcing you into a 2 year satellite contract worth a few thousand dollars(and will likely keep you as a customer for years to come). There is absolutely no way it is better for them in the long run for you to opt for the ps3 deal over signing a satellite contract. But I guess they are realizing NFL Sunday ticket isn't enough to convert some people over to satellite and are trying to get whatever money they can out of Sunday ticket.
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Old 08-19-2011, 12:07 AM   #29
Have we figured out if we can pay for this with PSN points? I mean, you can find those for 10-20% off sometimes, plus being able to use GS credit to pay for this would make it seem cheaper.

Trapped in St. Louis for another NFL season would make it more bearable if I could get an out of market game, but 350 bucks for what would amount to watching 1 extra game on probably 6 or 7 sundays is not worth it unless I can pay with PSN points.
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:21 AM   #30
This is really only for hardcore NFL fans not homers that only watch games for one team. For the true fans of the game this is a good price.
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:43 AM   #31
save the money and get nhl center ice. Watch the best sport on the planet. commercialball sucks
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Old 08-19-2011, 07:02 AM   #32
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Makes me wonder if Sony had this to announce since E3 but couldn't because of the lockout. I imagine it's significant enough that it would get good press there


And no one should blame Sony for the $340 price. That is all DirectTV's doing.
The NFL sold the exclusive rights to DirectTv for like $1B a year, and I believe we are currently in the 2nd exclusive contract with DirectTV. So the NFL knows exactly what DirectTV is doing and encourages it, because they get $1B a year so they don't care what the customer is charged.
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Old 08-19-2011, 07:05 AM   #33
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sunday ticket is at least becoming more accessible. I live in my team's home market now so no longer need it, but I would rather pay 350 bucks and keep cable then have to switch to direct tv(which used to be the only option).

I think NBA and MLB season tv passes are like 200 bucks, so there is a nice little price to pay for the exclusive agreement. Although, NFL is more popular then the other 2, so it would probably be a little more expensive anyways.
It is not becoming more accessible. Read the fine print.

"viewers who do not currently have access to DIRECTV"

So you do not have the option to keep cable and buy Sunday Ticket for $340, UNLESS you can prove that DirectTV is not an option for you. If you can get a DTV signal at your house, you must become a subscriber to get Sunday Ticket. I know because the mobile to go language is similar and I can't get that.
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:23 AM   #34
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It is not becoming more accessible. Read the fine print.

"viewers who do not currently have access to DIRECTV"

So you do not have the option to keep cable and buy Sunday Ticket for $340, UNLESS you can prove that DirectTV is not an option for you. If you can get a DTV signal at your house, you must become a subscriber to get Sunday Ticket. I know because the mobile to go language is similar and I can't get that.
Oh wow, you are right. I didn't read the actual announcement just 3rd party coverage of it and they all didn't pick up on that(and its not even in the fine print, it's stated in the announcement). I also have experience with the mobile to go one that uses the same language. So basically there is nothing to see here. In order to be eligible for this you have to be in an area that cannot get direct tv, which are few and faw between seeing as it is satellite. You seem to be the only person, including multiple media sources, to spot this. The announcement is subtle about this, but it is the exact same language they use for the Internet version, so I am pretty sure you are right.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:51 PM   #35
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Direct tv pays 1 billion a year for the exclusive rights to NFL. 340 bucks is a drop in the bucket compared to forcing you into a 2 year satellite contract worth a few thousand dollars(and will likely keep you as a customer for years to come). There is absolutely no way it is better for them in the long run for you to opt for the ps3 deal over signing a satellite contract. But I guess they are realizing NFL Sunday ticket isn't enough to convert some people over to satellite and are trying to get whatever money they can out of Sunday ticket.
They'll get plenty of subs from people that would never sign up for DirecTV, which is why it's much, much better for them to open up the service to non-subscribers and get some money out of them then nothing. Having next to no costs associated with those that sign up for NFL ST on the PS3 beyond just the streaming itself is big for them financially and Sony.
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Old 08-19-2011, 04:05 PM   #36
^as smallshark just pointed out, the ability to get ps3 Sunday ticket without already being a direct tv subscriber is only available to people who are in an area of the country that cannot get direct tv. There are very very few areas that you cannot get direct tv. I believe New York City is one market where this applies because there are issues with satellite signals there. Other than that, I don't know of any other place that would qualify. Very few people will be able to use this feature without already paying for direct TV.
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Old 08-19-2011, 04:33 PM   #37
I would LOVE this, but I basically get the LIONS every Sunday anyways with normal cable. They tend to sell out everygame anyways, if with the past performance.

Does Sunday ticket have any BLACKOUT issues? I know MLB will blackout games with the MLB package (I think)
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Old 08-19-2011, 04:44 PM   #38
Waste of money in my opinion. I'll just watch my Eagles at the bar.
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Old 08-19-2011, 04:53 PM   #39
That would be a bad business decision that makes the entire announcement very questionable if it only applies to current DirecTV subscribers, though my interpretation was that that meant anybody not currently subscribed with them. There's no reason to even offer the $340 option if nobody can do that, so this would just be a NFL ST To-Go offer.
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Old 08-19-2011, 04:55 PM   #40
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I would LOVE this, but I basically get the LIONS every Sunday anyways with normal cable. They tend to sell out everygame anyways, if with the past performance.

Does Sunday ticket have any BLACKOUT issues? I know MLB will blackout games with the MLB package (I think)
The Wikipedia article I linked to earlier explains that part of the service:

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If a game the viewer wishes to watch is blacked out in their home market because it's not sold out, the game remains blacked out on NFL Sunday Ticket. Any other game televised locally is also blacked out. (viewers must watch them instead on their local FOX or CBS affiliates)[8] Games joined or switched away from in progress usually have their blackout status altered immediately.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nfl_sun...cket#Blackouts
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