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Originally Posted by kube00 I keep thinking it would be ironic if somehow Nash ended up in Dallas next season...

I would be very happy if Nash goes to Dallas : )
I would be even happier if we get Darren Williams

The exact reason why Mark Cuban cleared all that cap space this year by not signing Tyson Chandler (I really wish we resigned him) JJ Borea (he was key in the playoffs, but no big deal that he was not resigned)
Cuban wanted to Dwight Howard and Darren Williams, I guess Williams is the only option at the moment

Marion still has some gas in the tank be played pretty well the 2nd half of the season. Should they keep Carter? Chandler they really miss him, and they need a decent center. But Chandler Knicks arent going anywhere. Bara went to Minnesota? A lot of good he did there.

Anyways OKC won't make it much further. Their bench consists of Harden and Perkins is only an average Center at best.

Now to cheer for the Spurs.

Yeah I don't think Marion gets dealt in the offseason. He is an amazing defender and a big reason they were as competitive as they were this year.

People who will be gone probably include (only including the people of importance and not the Yi's and Jones'):

JET: He just doesn't come up big in the playoffs enough to keep him around. Aside from that magical season last year, he hasn't really had a decent playoff run in forever, and had two real bad stinkers before last season.

Haywood: He is going to get amnestied or traded (trade depends solely on a team needing to absorb his salary to meet the 90 percent cap rule). He just doesn't have enough skills offensively to free up Dirk on the block and he doesn't do enough to contain the paint.

West: Delonte is only gone because someone needs to offer him a lot of money. The fact that he keeps having to play for the minimum is ridiculous. He needs to get paid, and while Dallas probably won't do it someone should give him a 3/15 type deal. Good shooter and solid defender. I have nothing bad to say about the man who raps in the KFC parking lot.

Kidd: He said he won't play for the minimum, but I can't see him getting too much more than that from the Mavs. Maybe the mini mid-level, but that would be about it.

Odom: I ing hate this guy so ing much right now. The fact that he is going to have a shot at playing for Team USA after mailing it in this past season is despicable. Take some college kids over this quitter.

Roddy B: I think the Roddy B experiment probably gets the plug pulled after this season. He just hasn't been the same since he broke his foot.

wtf really a sweep? LOL that was one of the most pathetic attempts at a repeat i have ever seen only on par with 06 Heat and various others. What a waste of time.

Originally Posted by renique46 wtf really a sweep? LOL that was one of the most pathetic attempts at a repeat i have ever seen only on par with 06 Heat and various others. What a waste of time.

It went that way all because of Mark Cuban's attempt to get Deron Williams and Dwight Howard in Dallas. And I hate him for it.

Anyway, I agree with CaseyRyback that Odom, Haywood, Terry and Kidd are probably gone. I'm really going to hate it if Jet and J. Kidd don't return, but I doubt Cuban will give up on Dwight and Deron. The Magic will be smart enough to trade D12 before the trade deadline if he doesn't sign an extension, so I don't see how he'll end up in Dallas.

In my perfect world, I'd like to see Cuban give up on Dwight and try to sign Chris Kaman or Roy Hibbert, plus a couple young guards (maybe Aaron Brooks?) if D. Will signs with the Nets. I'd also want Delonte West to resign.

Teams without two superstars don't usually win NBA titles so I don't fault him. It has happened 3 times in the past 30+ years (11,04,94). Every other championship was won by a team with multiple superstars.

Hopefully Kaman will come to Dallas on a discount since he is close to Dirk. It would be really nice to have a C that can actually put the ball in the basket.

Wow Casey. Your the reason why superstars couldn't give a ceap about loyalty and jump ship at the first chance they get.

Jet just got you a ring last year and you are trying to write him off the next season. What is he suppose to do? Bring you a ring every year for the rest of his career?

The only problem that Dallas had was Cuban not wanting to bring back t-chan. That's it. Dallas without t-chan is like a pop tart soft in the middle. If you are going to do that much retooling you should get rid of dirk it's extremely unlikely that he is goin to have another run like he did last year as well as kidd. Time to write out your shopping list for the off season and buy some players. West will always get a minn contract because he is bat shit insane and no one wants to deal with him.

Although I don't know who is up for fa this off season but a big guy in the middle should be number 1.

Originally Posted by renique46 all you missed was everything being melos fault again.

Game 1: 3 for 15
Game 2: 12 for 26
Game 3: 7 for 23

Boy was that some nice shooting
Nice ball handling skills; averaging 4 turnovers/game in series
Lebron, the guy he guarded, has been abusing him all series.

Amare hated so much he never got the ball that he threw himself out of the series.

But hey Melo can't be at fault at all... it really is just NY management's fault who got Melo in the first place.

Originally Posted by Soodmeg Wow Casey. Your the reason why superstars couldn't give a ceap about loyalty and jump ship at the first chance they get. Jet just got you a ring last year and you are trying to write him off the next season. What is he suppose to do? Bring you a ring every year for the rest of his career? The only problem that Dallas had was Cuban not wanting to bring back t-chan. That's it. Dallas without t-chan is like a pop tart soft in the middle. If you are going to do that much retooling you should get rid of dirk it's extremely unlikely that he is goin to have another run like he did last year as well as kidd. Time to write out your shopping list for the off season and buy some players. West will always get a minn contract because he is bat shit insane and no one wants to deal with him. Although I don't know who is up for fa this off season but a big guy in the middle should be number 1.

It isn't writing him off when everyone who watches the Mavericks knows it is going to happen. There is a reason he hasn't gotten an extension. Dallas has gotten a lot from Terry, but they never got the player they thought they were getting from Atlanta. Playoffs wise he just hasn't been solid enough to give Dirk the help he needs in three of the last four seasons. Shooting less than 40 percent and producing less than 15 points during a playoff series when you are supposed to be the second leading scorer just isn't enough. The bottom line with Terry is that someone is going to overpay for him this offseason just like the Clips overpaid for Butler. Terry is a good player, but he isn't worth the money he is going to want at this point in his career.

While a big guy should be high on their list, a penetrating guard who can score, distribute, and play defense should be number one. Deron Williams would make a lot of the older guys on the team look a lot better by getting them open shots. Spacing and spreading the floor was a huge problem for the team this year and getting away from being as perimeter oriented as they were would help. Dallas is probably going to look into resigning Mahinmi and with some more polishing he could be the starting C provided they get a quality big to play behind him.

Articles like that are why I love Delonte and think he needs to get paid. He plays his ass off and is such an excellent defender.:
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/...s-family-first

Best thing from Jim Rome is Burning:

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Hot Sauce in my Bag!:

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After this series, I never again want to hear about how Melo is a top player in the NBA...

Originally Posted by lordopus99 Game 1: 3 for 15 Game 2: 12 for 26 Game 3: 7 for 23 Boy was that some nice shooting Nice ball handling skills; averaging 4 turnovers/game in series Lebron, the guy he guarded, has been abusing him all series. Amare hated so much he never got the ball that he threw himself out of the series. But hey Melo can't be at fault at all... it really is just NY management's fault who got Melo in the first place.

Was going to ask Amares stats but heavens me i forgot hes so important than he took himself out of game 3 just to make a point because he hated not getting the ball so much! yea thats it!.

Also LOL @ everyone now writing terry off like he wasn't one of the reason Mavs even fluked past Miami in the first place.

Originally Posted by bigdaddybruce44 After this series, I never again want to hear about how Melo is a top player in the NBA...

Oh you don't want to hear how melo just put up 40 and hit the game winning shoot to prevent the sweep?

Hmmmmmm.

Haters gonna mother ing hate I guess. The harder you guys push the more fun I have with it. I want them to win the ring not because I like them but because it's more fun that way.


Muaahahahahahahahahahah.

29 shots to get there. He's been playing iverson style ball far to long, and is the reason the Knicks will never make it to the finals. He's a ball hog, and never thinks about what will benefit his team. The play never goes through him it ends at him. He's a selfish player, and he will never gain more fans than he currently has soodmeg.

Originally Posted by Soodmeg Oh you don't want to hear how melo just put up 40 and hit the game winning shoot to prevent the sweep? Hmmmmmm. Haters gonna mother ing hate I guess. The harder you guys push the more fun I have with it. I want them to win the ring not because I like them but because it's more fun that way. Muaahahahahahahahahahah.

Melos contributes to a win = silence for a week
Knicks lose= Melos fault for a week

And no mention of Amare at all.

Kinda shocked though Miami seemed to not even care about that game as if they lost it on purpose just to win at home but either way Melo scored 41 and at least shut people up for a day.

At this point the man has to score 100 points a game and go undefeated before anyone gives him any credit. He has been carrying the team whether you want to admit it or not. The team has done much better since Mikey D was let go and then they were hit my injuries to a team that doesnt have that much offensive talent outside Melo and Stat anyway. Who were you depending on? He ended the season 6th in scoring but I know that doesnt mean anything...because when he scores its somehow magically hurting the team.





Blah blah blah.

The funny thing about this is that the Knicks are the same as about 20 other teams average, one or 2 rounds in the playoffs and bounced. So I dont get why Melo gets all this hate yet ing Andre Iggy doesnt get any for loosing all these years in Philly. He is also a top 20 talent that hasnt done a thing. Just like a dozen or so other superstars. It is what it is....dont get why you guys just pick out Melo and decide that their woes are all on him.

The Knicks sucked before melo and now they are average with him.....dont know how that = WAAAAA MELOS IS HURTING THE TEAM SO BADLY NOOO HE IS NOOO WE WENT FROM LAST IN THE LEAGUE TO PLAYOFFS!!!! MURDER THAT NINJA!!!!

Originally Posted by perdition(troy 29 shots to get there. He's been playing iverson style ball far to long, and is the reason the Knicks will never make it to the finals. He's a ball hog, and never thinks about what will benefit his team. The play never goes through him it ends at him. He's a selfish player, and he will never gain more fans than he currently has soodmeg.

Who gives a shit? Again, I dont actually care that much about Melo I just hate more than anything fandom bullshit and will continue to call you guys out on it. I hate that about sports.

The fact that you guys just decided one day that its all melos fault is hilarious. Selfish? How? Because he shoots the ball a lot? He the ing star on the team...who else would be shooting the ball? Novak? Maybe B-Diddy and his pixie stick legs? Bibbys dying husk? JR Smith is the leagues best x factor but you cant build a team around the guy. Oh Lin because apparently he was magically better than all the other average point guards in the league. By the way a guy named Kobe spent most of his career shooting the ball a lot. Whats your point here? Oh thats right because you want to make sure everyone knows Melo should be ranked 50th or some other stupid worthless ranking number.

He will never get more fans? This isnt ing facebook man. This is what I am talking about..I hate when people pretend to be more than what they are...we are all just random people watching a game..none of us have any real inside knowledge of anything so how does it become so personal with some of you?

The guy hasnt done, said or commented on anything that has put himself in a bad light. He embraced Lin, he embraced the coaching change, he embraced Stat. He wanted to be in NY and he got there, he hasnt done a single thing that would be worthy of all the hate he gets.

One of you just said he is playing Allen Iverson ball? Didnt he take Philly to the Championship?

What the hell are you guys even talking about anymore?

Originally Posted by Soodmeg Oh you don't want to hear how melo just put up 40 and hit the game winning shoot to prevent the sweep?

Game winning? Try game leading. There was plenty of time for a comeback. Melo missed 2 of 3 free throws to hold onto that lead. If Wade didn't fumble the ball, the game potentially points a win in Miami's favor.

But...

Originally Posted by renique46 Kinda shocked though Miami seemed to not even care about that game as if they lost it on purpose just to win at home

Renique already knew that.

least shut people up for a day

Nope. These are NBA players. Any of these guys can go off on a given night. Hell Jeremy Lin dropped 38 earlier this year and the dude was pretty much a d-leaguer.

Fact: Melo was shooting 34.4% in the first 3 games. Poor ass shooting for a "top 5 player" as claimed by Soodmeg after the trade.
Source for claim: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...postcount=1828

Originally Posted by soodmeg The guy hasnt done, said or commented on anything that has put himself in a bad light. He embraced Lin, he embraced the coaching change, he embraced Stat. He wanted to be in NY and he got there, he hasnt done a single thing that would be worthy of all the hate he gets.

Are you kidding me... The dude refused to play in Denver, forced his way out, very public wedding to MTV host, recently got a coach ran off, and has a big ass self portrait on the wall in his house (just to show off the ego). And that didn't have anything to do with the light on him... not to mentioned the fact that some people call him a top 5 player (a hugely ridiculous claim). Now do you understand why some people put him down. There are other NBA "superstars" out there that don't do the stuff he has done and don't get the hate he does. Now does it click?

So I dont get why Melo gets all this hate yet ing Andre Iggy doesnt get any for loosing all these years in Philly.

Oh poor me. Iggy hasn't come across egocentric and demanding anything. He comes to work and plays hard for the team that pays for him. Iggy's team is potentially going onto the next round this year. Not too harsh for a young team around him and Brand.

Who gives a shit? Again, I dont actually care that much about Melo I just hate more than anything fandom bullshit and will continue to call you guys out on it.

Fandom? I am not any fan of the Knicks or their terrible organization. Let alone Melo. All I stated was (even long ago)... Melo is overrated and a selfish player. To date, he still is proving exactly that. Again who gives a shit... You are still trying to prove your claim (even though you backtracked this year ) and we are still proving you wrong. You give it up and you will notice we will. Plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Soodmeg Oh you don't want to hear how melo just put up 40 and hit the game winning shoot to prevent the sweep? Hmmmmmm. Haters gonna mother ing hate I guess. The harder you guys push the more fun I have with it. I want them to win the ring not because I like them but because it's more fun that way. Muaahahahahahahahahahah.

The guy finally had a good game, and this means what? Elite players don't have a good game, a bad game, a good game, a bad game. Elite players are always elite. Even at their worst, they find a way. That isn't Melo. Anyone who knows basketball knows this. I find it funny that you're always the one questioning people's knowledge, when it's completely clear you know almost nothing at all about basketball or professional sports at all. The Heat defense has made Melo look weak and slow almost the entire series.

Carmelo isn't a top player in the NBA?

Heh?

If I can recall correctly, doesn't Melo have like the most clutch shots/game winners over anyone in the NBA (more than Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Durant, etc)?

The one major flaw in Melo's game is his defense but he is an offensive machine.

Lord and Bruce are simply the worst kind of sports fans there are. You are right Antip Melo factually is the clutchest NBA player since entering the league.

Let me say this again....AGAIN.....AGAIN because you both seem to be so far up melos ass to have somehow missed it the first 30 times I said it. NO ONE.....NO ONE GIVES A SINGLE FUCK IF MELO IS A TOP 5 PLAYER. There is a difference in not being elite and being some crap d league....you two desperately and pathetically want Melo to be the same as Vlad Rad or something even though he clearly isnt. Again...no real fan who has real knowledge spends any time trying to rank top players....only kids and weekend djs do that.


You guys have already admitted what your problem is...you dislike melo personally for whatever reason. That is why I keep jabbing you with this Melo thing...because its clearly that like most people who take sports far to seriously you mistakenly fooled yourself into thinking you are not just a random guy watching a game but somehow more invested in the team.

You state that Iggy didnt abandoned his team thats why he doesnt get hate? Well about how Kobe who cheated on his wife and was accused of rape? What about the Birdman who was a crack dealer and user for half his life? This is why I hate fans like you...you take this holier than thou attitude towards things like moving teams...while ignoring all the sports athletes who are drunks, dealers, rapists, murderers and overall dirtbags.

Melo is a superstar period whether you like him or not...get over it.