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Originally Posted by Deader2818 Prob because it can do a lot more then a tablet on its own.

With a tablet, you can take it with you when you travel. Wii U controller?

I think the tablets can do more on it own.

Originally Posted by Deader2818 Prob because it can do a lot more then a tablet on its own.

Uhhhhh excuse me?

So, the WiiU tablet can play every movie file in existence, play ROMS, be used as a media center control, operate as a GPS, work as an MP3 player, etc...?

Look, I'm all for Nintendos new system doing well and eventually being home for some great games, but your statement that the WiiU tablet can do more than a true Android or Apple tablet is completely delusional.

Originally Posted by SEH So, the WiiU tablet can play every movie file in existence, play ROMS, be used as a media center control, operate as a GPS, work as an MP3 player, etc...? Look, I'm all for Nintendos new system doing well and eventually being home for some great games, but your statement that the WiiU tablet can do more than a true Android or Apple tablet is completely delusional.

Agree. Others need to be realistic. It's not even as good as the most basic of tablets out there (single touch ).

I would like this thing to succeed, but based on today's software, and what has been announced (so far), I'm not holding my breath. If it had not been a requested Christmas gift from my son, I would be on the sidelines with Strell, and others...

Not the most profound thought, but I'm just happy to play Nintendo games with regular buttons and control inputs again. Plus, the games are in HD so they look presentable on my television.

That being said, I think it's perfectly reasonable to hold out until next Christmas, where there will likely be at least a $50 price drop and (hopefully) at least 2 new AAA Nintendo-developed titles available.

So I got a Wii U today and attempting to sign up for a Nintendo Network account was quite a hassle because the word "crash" is a no-no for name choices and since that's kind of a focus of my usernames across the internet, it was hard to figure out a new name. I did get the idea for the alternate from an alternate PSN account I made to access the Japanese PS Store with a play off of my CAG username that is also a dig at "crash" being some forbidden word/name: FriendlyTanuki

Outside of that and the hour-long firmware update, the set-up was really easy since it does most of the work automatically for video settings, TV controls, and internet settings.

Originally Posted by Deader2818 Nintendo pushed back Pikmin 3 and Luigi's Mansion 2 because they had to many titles out in a short amount of time and didn't want to force their fan base to pick and choose. In a short amount of time they had Mario U, Paper Mario, Nintendo Land, New Mario 2.

That's a silly stance to take though. Lets look at that lineup. 2 Platformers, an RPG and mini-games. I'm not picking and choosing anything. First you're mixing two platforms. I don't own a 3DS. I hate RPGs and minigames. That leaves me a single game. Not everyone buys every first party title just because it's a Nintendo game or has "Mario" somewhere in the title.

And the fact that Luigi's Mansion 2 is on the 3DS instead of using the Wiimote is still a travesty. Doesn't get anymore ed up than that.

Originally Posted by Deader2818 The problem is, a lot of big games coming out (Bioshock, Metal Gear Rising, Dead Space 3, Crysis 3, Tomb Raider)

That's even larger problem looming for Rayman and Pikmin. Two shaky franchises(clearly not AAA titles) that need all the help they can get. Releasing them amid those titles(as well as new entries into the God of War and Gears of War franchises) is a huge mistake. They are two franchises aimed squarely at the core crowd but execs are idiots if they think Bioshock Inifinite or either GoW game are going to take a backseat to a Pikmin or Rayman purchase. Rayman will be a failure like the first and the price drop like a stone within weeks.

Even with a crowded launch lineup I think both would have fared much better than amid a half dozen AAA titles in Feb-March. Why not spread out the ports instead of the new games? As crowded as the WiiU launch is perceived, it's still 90% rereleases of 360/PS3 games. Two totally new games mixed in with all the ports would have done fine.

Armchair analyst... done. lol

So uhhh... we getting any decent games in the next 3-6 months? My Wii U has become a very expensive Wii. I mean, can't Nintendo get a Wind Waker HD out to keep us held over until some proper Wii U games are developed? Also, what are the chances of getting a proper Wii U Virtual Console? Are we really going to have to forever go into "Wii mode" to play all those games? Does Nintendo not want my money?

I don't get how in 2013, when you look at Apple's app store how any company doesn't try and emulate that. Nintendo could easily be selling me NES/SNES/GBA/N64/GCN games for $1-$20 a pop and if they had proper Wii U menu and tablet integration I'd be buying them up! Especially right now when there's nothing to play since I've beat Mario and Zombi U(which I didn't really care for).

Edit: Hell, give me a Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask HD bundle $40, and a Wind Waker/Twilight Princess bundle $40. Sony did it with the God of War games, why not Nintendo? I'd buy either of those in a heartbeat. Probably would pay $60 a piece even.

It is getting a couple big multi-platform titles like Aliens: Colonial Marines & Injustice: Gods Among Us. Theoretically Rayman, Lego City Undercover, Pikmn 3 , Monster Hunter Ultimate & Wonderful 101 should all hit within the next 6 months, all core titles.

I didn't mean the Tablet of the Wii U compared to a tablet, i meant the system as a whole.

Originally Posted by Deader2818 I didn't mean the Tablet of the Wii U compared to a tablet, i meant the system as a whole.

Even still, aside from obviously playing higher quality games, I'd go out on a limb and say a tablet can do more.

Originally Posted by SEH Even still, aside from obviously playing higher quality games, I'd go out on a limb and say a tablet can do more.

Agreed. The very fact that its nonfunctional away from the Wii U means its a piss poor tablet. my iPad has a 3G antennae in it and I can buy a month of data on it on an ad hoc basis. Last summer I was driving in the car and my wife was playing some app on the iPad and surfing the web as well (during a many hour drive). Oh, let's stop at McDonald's with a play place for the kids, look up the closest one on the iPad. Navigate to the site, it picks up our location from the GPS and displays the closest restaurants. We find one with a play place and go there. What would the "gamepad" do in this situation? LOL

You do realize it's NOT a tablet, right? It never has been, Nintendo has never pushed it as such. It's a home console. More portable than most since you don't need a TV screen for many titles, but it's still pretty meant to be played at home just like any other home console. The gamepad is a way to play games differently, be it finally not having to fight over the TV (hence why I'm getting any mutli-platform titles on the Wii U in the future) or using the second screen for various things they mentioned, most importantly playing two different ways (asynchronous gameplay I believe it was called) at the same time which is shown off rather well in Nintendoland. It's a simple example for now, but you simply can't do games like that on the 360 or PS3, and odds are the next systems from those companies won't be capable of gameplay like that either because they mainly care about how shiny the graphics for next gen are, not what they can do gameplay wise.

Originally Posted by Erad30 You do realize it's NOT a tablet, right? It never has been, Nintendo has never pushed it as such. It's a home console. More portable than most since you don't need a TV screen for many titles, but it's still pretty meant to be played at home just like any other home console. The gamepad is a way to play games differently, be it finally not having to fight over the TV (hence why I'm getting any mutli-platform titles on the Wii U in the future) or using the second screen for various things they mentioned, most importantly playing two different ways (asynchronous gameplay I believe it was called) at the same time which is shown off rather well in Nintendoland. It's a simple example for now, but you simply can't do games like that on the 360 or PS3, and odds are the next systems from those companies won't be capable of gameplay like that either because they mainly care about how shiny the graphics for next gen are, not what they can do gameplay wise.

Umm, don't you have to be several feet from the television? How does that make it "more portable"?

Originally Posted by Rosterking Umm, don't you have to be several feet from the television? How does that make it "more portable"?

I can play on the controller in my bedroom. The Wii u is in my living room. There you go.

Originally Posted by therealdanhill I can play on the controller in my bedroom. The Wii u is in my living room. There you go.

i cant walk from my living room (where the wiiu is) without the gamepad disconnecting.

Originally Posted by therealdanhill I can play on the controller in my bedroom. The Wii u is in my living room. There you go.

Does not make it more portable as he stated, and you still have to be in your house.

Originally Posted by Rosterking Does not make it more portable as he stated, and you still have to be in your house.

So I can just take my 360 controller from my living room into the bathroom, shut the door and still play my 360 games just as well? Cause if not then the Wii U is in fact more portable.

Also worth pointing out that in Japan people have taken their Wii u's onto the bullet train with them and played them on their ride.

the new wii is pretty good but man the games are too expensive

Originally Posted by Rosterking Umm, don't you have to be several feet from the television? How does that make it "more portable"?

I was mainly talking about I could take it into any place with an outlet and play. I once took it to a mall and played it in a bookstore cafe, can't do that with a PS3 or Xbox.