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The demo to MH Tri almost made me cancel my preorder back when it came out on the Wii.

It was like setting you up to fight a boss in RPG type game fully equipped and the demo mission was to defeat a boss. No tutorial, no item explanation, no item collecting or weapon and armor development. They just threw you out there in cookie cutter gear mold and you had to figure it out yourself.

It felt limiting and shallow. I'm guessing this demo gave off a similar feeling?

I knew there had to be more to the game so I took a chance and stayed with my MH Tri preorder. I ended up putting 100 hours into it with a group of CAGs (Daisy, Botticus, King Broly and a handful of others).

This series is less hack, slash and loot and more Punch Out!! in it's combat. Your moves must be deliberate on offense and defense. Yes there are some Glass Joe level monsters in the beginning but those are just to get you accustomed to the buttons and give you some confidence before they present some Tyson caliber monsters and they take it away from you.

I enjoyed crafting my own weapons, armor, gear and items from the environment and big game kills. I liked how we had to strategically plan ahead after getting destroyed the first time when encountering a new Boss level monster. I also enjoyed the deeper learning curve the some of the weapons had (the lance ended up being my favorite weapon since it allowed you to tank anything if your timing and rhythm was right).

Also I found it odd that you can't play off-screen, but it says it supports pro controller. Huh?

I tried the 3DS version to see if it would be better but it's just as cryptic. At least they put the map on the bottom screen. It was kind of funny. I found the bunny in the corner of one region, and it would hit me and knock me into another region. I'd turn around, go back in and accidentally end up in the wrong place, over and over.

I can envision how co-op would make fighting easier, but why wouldn't they put it in the demo?

Played MH before? Cool demo. Start with some pretty cool equipment, able to try higher level bosses, jump right into the boss fight (boss perma-tagged, no need to use paintballs), check out "HD" graphics.

Never played MH before? What a terrible demo. No instruction/explanation of anything (WiiU menu has the manual, but even that doesn't tell much), almost guaranteed to not be able to hunt the monster in the time limit, both monsters are "boss" hunts so too much health to make it feel like you've accomplished anything, etc.

Should have had 2 veteran hunts (these) and 2 newbie hunts such as a gathering mission, or hunting X of the smaller type enemies to bring new players in and make them feel like they have actually accomplished something.

Actually preferred the 3DS version, and thought the 3D effect on it was pretty damn good (which I wasn't expecting).

Originally Posted by moothemagiccow Also I found it odd that you can't play off-screen, but it says it supports pro controller. Huh? I tried the 3DS version to see if it would be better but it's just as cryptic. At least they put the map on the bottom screen. It was kind of funny. I found the bunny in the corner of one region, and it would hit me and knock me into another region. I'd turn around, go back in and accidentally end up in the wrong place, over and over. I can envision how co-op would make fighting easier, but why wouldn't they put it in the demo?

With how the map was on the lower screen for the 3DS version, in the final game you can choose what shows up on the bottom screen and what stays on the TV. So if you would rather have the map on the gamepad for the WiiU version you can do that. As for the pro controllers, I believe you still have stuff on the gamepad while you are using that, since I remember them showing a picture where the guy was playing and had the gamepad in a stand on the side so he could look at the info on it without having to look down, although that doesn't mean that off-screen play shouldn't be in (to me it's not a huge deal though)

I'd like to see a MegaMan game on Wii U. Not a flashback to the 8 bit days or another friggin' Starforce entry.

Originally Posted by Zmonkay Played MH before? Cool demo. Start with some pretty cool equipment, able to try higher level bosses, jump right into the boss fight (boss perma-tagged, no need to use paintballs), check out "HD" graphics. Never played MH before? What a terrible demo. No instruction/explanation of anything (WiiU menu has the manual, but even that doesn't tell much), almost guaranteed to not be able to hunt the monster in the time limit, both monsters are "boss" hunts so too much health to make it feel like you've accomplished anything, etc.

That's a shame. I'd be much more likely to have given this a shot if they didn't even bother with a demo. My interest in the series is based on recommendations like your own, but now that I also have a taste for the gameplay I'm almost certain I'll never pick it up.

A bad demo is poison.

Originally Posted by Corvin I assume he's referring to the WiiU being the Dreamcast of this generation. If the WiiU is barely better than a PS3 it will be interesting to see how much better the PS4/720 look.

Going by the leaked specks the WiiU looks closer the the PS2 of this generation than the Dreamcast.

I heard Runner 2 is coming out today

Found one review so far, 9/10 http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/...-legend-review

The one pleasant surprise for MH was that I was able to use the Wii Classic Controller Pro. I found using the Gamepad as a controller to be too difficult. It was much easier using the classic controller pro. I guess I thought they'd force you to get the new Wii U Pro Controller. But then I remembered this isn't Sony or MS . Not enough is being said about Nintendo allowing the use of Wii peripherals on the Wii U which results in significant savings for those who had a Wii. All everyone can talk about (on podcasts and such) is the January sales numbers...

In any case, I'm kind of glad now that Newegg hosed me on my Pro controller preorder (kept it till January, then charged me, then cancelled and refunded). Looks like I won't need it until I can get one really cheap.

Originally Posted by itachiitachi Going by the leaked specks the WiiU looks closer the the PS2 of this generation than the Dreamcast.

The third worst spec-wise instead of fourth? (Xbox -> GCN -> PS2 -> DC)

I was referring to the year head start. Dreamcast games were visually impressive for the year they had prior to the GCN, PS2 & Xbox but was easily overshadowed once those launched. Quite possibly the way this will shake out for the WiiU.

Originally Posted by Corvin The third worst spec-wise instead of fourth? (Xbox -> GCN -> PS2 -> DC) I was referring to the year head start. Dreamcast games were visually impressive for the year they had prior to the GCN, PS2 & Xbox but was easily overshadowed once those launched. Quite possibly the way this will shake out for the WiiU.

It's not an apples:apples situation, though. DC's problem was timing. WIIU's problem has nothing to do with timing.

Nintendo's following up the most successful console release in their entire history. AND its predecessor was one that liberated them from the expectation that they had to match their competitors' specs to compete. So the timing on the WIIU is just fine. N's problem is they don't have a plan. That shows up in the tablet production problems; the game development delays; the Launch Date vs. Launch Window; the OS, TVii, and updates; the weird marketing that still doesn't make sense after repeated views; the goofy E3s; etc.

However, the lack of a plan is a problem that isn't necessarily going to sink the WIIU. So long as Sony stays vague with the PS4 and MS hems and haws on the 720, Nintendo's got a chance. It looks like they'll get two whole holidays being the uncontested "new" console, which is a big deal. If the DC would've had that kind of pressure-free environment, who knows what would've happened.

I guess the DC comparison actually makes me more hopeful for the WIIU. Well done.

Nintendo's franchises are way better than Sega's, so there's no comparison between WiiU and DC. Plus Nintendo is making money on the console (even if they say with one game sale) and when you aren't losing money (like Sega was with DC) you can stay in as long as you want.

Originally Posted by Corvin The third worst spec-wise instead of fourth? (Xbox -> GCN -> PS2 -> DC) I was referring to the year head start. Dreamcast games were visually impressive for the year they had prior to the GCN, PS2 & Xbox but was easily overshadowed once those launched. Quite possibly the way this will shake out for the WiiU.

I was more referring to xbox and ps4 being 3-5 time more powerful that the will U rather than(similar to the xbox and GC vs PS2 ratio) instead of last gen where the xbox and ps3 where 6-10 times as powerful as the wii(closer to a xbox CG vs DC ratio)

Originally Posted by moothemagiccow I heard Runner 2 is coming out today Found one review so far, 9/10 http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/...-legend-review

I hope people support this (I would if I had a console it was being released on), as I'm sure the higher production values taxed Gaijin Games' budget much more than the original Bit.Trip series did.

Plus it would give Wii U owners something to play until MH3 Ultimate comes out. Charles Martinet performing the narration is also a pretty sweet bonus.

Originally Posted by io The one pleasant surprise for MH was that I was able to use the Wii Classic Controller Pro. I found using the Gamepad as a controller to be too difficult. It was much easier using the classic controller pro. I guess I thought they'd force you to get the new Wii U Pro Controller. But then I remembered this isn't Sony or MS . Not enough is being said about Nintendo allowing the use of Wii peripherals on the Wii U which results in significant savings for those who had a Wii. All everyone can talk about (on podcasts and such) is the January sales numbers... In any case, I'm kind of glad now that Newegg hosed me on my Pro controller preorder (kept it till January, then charged me, then cancelled and refunded). Looks like I won't need it until I can get one really cheap.

Yes because we totally couldn't play the ps2 with a ps1 controller or a ps3 with a ps2/ps1 controller with a cheap adapter......oh wait

Originally Posted by renique46 Yes because we totally couldn't play the ps2 with a ps1 controller or a ps3 with a ps2/ps1 controller with a cheap adapter......oh wait

I was referring to the PS4 having new controllers and supposedly not working with the PS3 ones (except Move - which is nice at least). And who the hell would have wanted to use a PS2 controller on the PS3? That move (to wireless) was a good one.

It was also more meant as a response to people saying Nintendo fails at everything and Sony and MS are going to blow them away. There are a few things that Nintendo is doing right this time around that the others aren't (BC for both games and controllers being one). (And yes, I fully understand why the PS4 has no BC, but from a value standpoint that makes the Wii U a decent buy even at the current price - and yet people keep harping on the price).

Personally I think if the PS4/720 launches for more than $400 then the Wii U has a great chance of thriving. Not for the hardcore CoD/Halo crowd but for kids. Because if you told a unknowing parent, hey pay $350 for this new console with this cool tablet or $500 for a 720, I think the parents will take the extra $150.

Either way happy I have a WiiU. Every time I turn it on, I feel happy. Just the whole miiverse really as pointless as it is, just is great. It feels more of a community than a gaming system. When I turn on my PS3, I turn on my PS3, I don't really show any emotion because my goal is to just get in a game and play.

I think I am gonna wait for a price drop on MH3. I mean it's a good game, but it's not I need to spend $60 on it good.

Originally Posted by Sir_Fragalot I think I am gonna wait for a price drop on MH3. I mean it's a good game, but it's not I need to spend $60 on it good.

Same here, I've played 80% of this game 2 years ago. Should have known Capcom would have charged 60 for it.

Originally Posted by UnlockPotential I'd like to see a MegaMan game on Wii U. Not a flashback to the 8 bit days or another friggin' Starforce entry.

Yeah, I'm tired of all the 8 bit homages to MegaMan. I want a new 3D styled one. A third-person adventure would be awesome, but I'd even take something in the style of Metroid: Other M.

I have a question for the group. How many of you are using a LAN adapter with your WiiU? The wireless on mine has worked flawlessly from day one but since I have a switch at my entertainment center I could easily hook my WiiU with a hardwired connection.

Best Buy carries an inexpensive LAN adapter for the Wii (which I assume is forward compatible with the WiiU) but I'm not sure if I'm just throwing money away. I'm just accustomed to hardwiring my consoles for stability.