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I don't know if SMB is the best platformer this generation but it's definitely in the top 5. I love/hate that game so much! I want that damn avatar award for beating the game but I gave up on the last (I think?) world. Really need to go back and finish it sometime.

Originally Posted by tylerh1701 What are your thoughts on Super Meat Boy? I liked SMB a lot. I think the reason I hated N+ so much (besides your reason which is 100% true) was because of the physics of running up slopes to get jumps right and the overall floatiness of the controls.

I agree with you on N+'s controls and physics. As for Super Meat Boy, I own it on Steam but haven't gotten around to trying it out (damn huge backlogs). But I much prefer the style of platforming seen in Rayman Origins - a game I felt compelled to start as soon as I bought it, anyway.

I liked Super Meat Boy until the dark world and where 90% of the game was those stupid wall jump physics. Just felt like guesswork having to trigger precise angled wall jumps to loop around saws and slide JUST far enough.

When people say that deaths in SMB are your fault, I'm pretty sure that's proof that they haven't been very far past light world hell or are defining the term so far down as to be pointless.

Still, fun game.

Originally Posted by infamy Unless it's dead, there was some guy selling points that was posted here but a mod moved the topic to the video game trading section.

Unless the points are in 100pt increments (via codes from Bing Rewards), or on US-English cards in laser-proof plastic ... then I'd stay away from private sales, since they very well could be either phishing attempts, come attached to a hijacked account, or the code isn't valid for your region (since US points != European points != Asian points).

Originally Posted by Dark Rider It fixed some color issues on the dashboard.

FYI, there's some BIG security enhancements coming down the pike (next couple of months?) that will be baked into the firmware, and there's no reason that XBL isn't already adding portions right now. Listen to Major Nelson's interview w/ Alex Garden (GM of XBL) for more details.

Originally Posted by Cornelius Unless the points are in 100pt increments (via codes from Bing Rewards), or on US-English cards in laser-proof plastic ... then I'd stay away from private sales, since they very well could be either phishing attempts, come attached to a hijacked account, or the code isn't valid for your region (since US points != European points != Asian points).

no there was a veteran CAG with lots of feedback on here selling them, I bought/traded with him once too, but I think he's out of codes now. otherwise yes I agree with you, but this is the one site where I have complete trust in the members. (as long as they're not new to the site or non-frequent members/traders)

Originally Posted by Mr. Sax Appeal I wish Catwoman was on sale too, My little brother has this game, and I'm gonna play his copy whenever I get around to it, but of course I can't use his Catwoman dlc code.

If you play on the console where that DLC was first downloaded, then everybody on that console gets to be Catwoman. Otherwise, you could also ask to borrow (play as) his gamertag on your console. Or you can buy a used copy of Batman:AC from GameStop, where all used copies come with a Catwoman DLC code printed on the receipt.

Originally Posted by Chrono Gear I don't know if SMB is the best platformer this generation but it's definitely in the top 5. I love/hate that game so much! I want that damn avatar award for beating the game but I gave up on the last (I think?) world. Really need to go back and finish it sometime.

Ya the last world (which is only like 5-6 levels) took me forever!!! My biggest achievement in that game though was unlocking The Kid from I Wanna Be The Guy. It's actually one of my proudest moments in all of gaming when I beat that 3rd spike level.

Originally Posted by eastx I agree with you on N+'s controls and physics. As for Super Meat Boy, I own it on Steam but haven't gotten around to trying it out (damn huge backlogs). But I much prefer the style of platforming seen in Rayman Origins - a game I felt compelled to start as soon as I bought it, anyway.

My backlog is getting embarrassingly high as well. I'm glad I don't game on PC or I'm sure it would be AT LEAST twice as big as it is now.

I'm about 2 worlds into Rayman Origins. It's been a lot of fun but hasn't fully pulled me in yet. I need to get back to it, I think once I get to the more challenging levels I'll be more engrossed.

Originally Posted by RollingSkull I liked Super Meat Boy until the dark world and where 90% of the game was those stupid wall jump physics. Just felt like guesswork having to trigger precise angled wall jumps to loop around saws and slide JUST far enough. When people say that deaths in SMB are your fault, I'm pretty sure that's proof that they haven't been very far past light world hell or are defining the term so far down as to be pointless. Still, fun game.

Shockingly, I'm agreeing with you again. Dark World is far too ridiculous to be all that much fun.

Originally Posted by tylerh1701 Shockingly, I'm agreeing with you again. Dark World is far too ridiculous to be all that much fun.

Dark World is insane but thankfully us Xboxers don't have those added Steam achievements, i.e beat all the worlds including the dark ones without dying.

Supposidely MS rejected Team Meat for these achievements because they were too hard, which is insane because I've never heard MS do such a thing.

Originally Posted by Chrono Gear I don't know if SMB is the best platformer this generation but it's definitely in the top 5. I love/hate that game so much! I want that damn avatar award for beating the game but I gave up on the last (I think?) world. Really need to go back and finish it sometime.

I'm down to the last two stages. One stage and the final boss fight. I feel like I can do it but I got a little burned out on it so I'll come back to it later.

Funny story, I beat the second or third stage in the very last level on my first try after stepping away for a week. Shocked, I said out loud "well I'm never going to do better than that today" and stopped playing. (I was taking 10-15 minutes a day to see how many levels I could do, I figured I'd take the one level in 2 minutes and step away)

TylerH, I'm a huge Bloodrayne fan and a huge Bloodrayne Betrayal hater, but I'm a little bit curious how you got the 8-bit Betrayal Bloodrayne gamerpic. How did you score that?

If it requires S-ranking those levels WELP NOT GONNA HAPPEN

Originally Posted by ZForce915 I'm down to the last two stages. One stage and the final boss fight. I feel like I can do it but I got a little burned out on it so I'll come back to it later. Funny story, I beat the second or third stage in the very last level on my first try after stepping away for a week. Shocked, I said out loud "well I'm never going to do better than that today" and stopped playing. (I was taking 10-15 minutes a day to see how many levels I could do, I figured I'd take the one level in 2 minutes and step away)

The final boss has a level RIGHT AFTER it that you cannot quit out of without doing the final boss again. Come to the final boss with enough stamina for two levels or you will be frustrated.

Originally Posted by RollingSkull TylerH, I'm a huge Bloodrayne fan and a huge Bloodrayne Betrayal hater, but I'm a little bit curious how you got the 8-bit Betrayal Bloodrayne gamerpic. How did you score that?

Haha no on the S-Rankings. I couldn't tell you what I did to get it, I thought I just got it for beating the game. I also collected all 50 vampire skulls but I don't think that's what did it.

It possibly also came from holding down LT, RT, LB, RB, Back, Start, and then pressing L3 and R3 at the same time.

EDIT: It's for beating the game.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/f...d.php?t=328226 (read the first post there)

I've said this a couple times before, but I wanted to let you know, again, what a phenomenal job you do with these Xbox threads, Joey. I thank you, sir. Keep up the great work.

BTW, I voted for you in all the Cheapy Awards, so maybe you'll get some recognition (well, I had to vote for JP a couple times, too). Best of luck, bud! .

Originally Posted by ZForce915 I'm down to the last two stages. One stage and the final boss fight. I feel like I can do it but I got a little burned out on it so I'll come back to it later. Funny story, I beat the second or third stage in the very last level on my first try after stepping away for a week. Shocked, I said out loud "well I'm never going to do better than that today" and stopped playing. (I was taking 10-15 minutes a day to see how many levels I could do, I figured I'd take the one level in 2 minutes and step away)

One of my best friends, Buft, beat the light & dark worlds in 3 -4 days after release on 360. He's a beast!

Originally Posted by infamy Dark World is insane but thankfully us Xboxers don't have those added Steam achievements, i.e beat all the worlds including the dark ones without dying. Supposidely MS rejected Team Meat for these achievements because they were too hard, which is insane because I've never heard MS do such a thing.

I don't think so. Downloadable games usually have 12 achievements, some have a few more. I don't see how they could have been able to fit those into the game.

Originally Posted by tylerh1701 I don't think so. Downloadable games usually have 12 achievements, some have a few more. I don't see how they could have been able to fit those into the game.

Lots of games have more than 12, in fact the standard is 20, and there are some that have more. They could have easily been able to fit them into the game. Many arcade games have 300 gamerscore and Fruit Ninja Kinect I believe has 350/350. So if SMB has 200 gamerscore, and they upped it by 100 gamerscore (let's say) and added 5G achievements, that would be 20 more achievements right there (more than enough).

Of course, this is speculation, but it IS possible.

Here is my source, though:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/11/11/su...for-xbox-live/

"Eight images have been revealed of the new achievements, which Team Meat say were “rejected by MS for their difficulty”. Gulp. There will also be plenty of special guests to unlock in the game, consisting of a variety of new indie game heroes, two of which have already been announced, and are revealed below."


Apparantly Team Meat said it themselves, lol. And as an achievement enthusiast who has completed LOTS of hard games (DMC4, Ninja Gaiden, N+, SMB, etc), I have to say.. THOSE achievements would be the hardest ones I've ever heard of, feasibly.

Wood Boy Complete The Forest without dying

Needle Boy Complete the Hospital without dying

Salt Boy Complete the Salt Factory without dying

Brimstone Boy Complete Hell without dying

Maggot Boy Complete the Rapture without dying

Dead Boy Complete The End without dying

Squirrel Boy Complete the Forest Dark World without dying

Blood Clot Boy Complete the Hospital Dark World without dying

Missile Boy Complete the Salt Factory Dark World without dying

Demon Boy Complete the Hell Dark World without dying.

Zombie Boy Complete the Rapture Dark World without dying

Dr.Fetus Boy Complete The End Dark World without dying

Originally Posted by twztid13 I've said this a couple times before, but I wanted to let you know, again, what a phenomenal job you do with these Xbox threads, Joey. I thank you, sir. Keep up the great work. BTW, I voted for you in all the Cheapy Awards, so maybe you'll get some recognition (well, I had to vote for JP a couple times, too). Best of luck, bud! .

Thanks. There are a lot of CAGs working hard this year. I nominated Sylon for the Speedy award since his site gets the sales so quickly, and honestly makes running this thread so much easier at times.

Originally Posted by infamy Lots of games have more than 12, in fact the standard is 20, and there are some that have more. They could have easily been able to fit them into the game. Many arcade games have 300 gamerscore and Fruit Ninja Kinect I believe has 350/350. So if SMB has 200 gamerscore, and they upped it by 100 gamerscore (let's say) and added 5G achievements, that would be 20 more achievements right there (more than enough)

At the time of SMB's release, 12 achievements was indeed the standard for an XBLA release. Any game with more than 12 achievements/200 gamerscore was the result of paid DLC. Fruit Ninja, for example, has 3 DLC packs that add 50 gamerscore a piece.

Only very recently did arcade games start appearing with 20 achievements w/o DLC. I think NFL Blitz was the first time I noticed it. Shank 2 has 20 as well, so that may in fact be the new standard. Gamerscore is still capped at 200 though.

I don't think they're allowed to add achievements without charging $.

Originally Posted by n4styn4t3 I don't think they're allowed to add achievements without charging $.

This seems to be the case for the most part, although a few games have gotten achievements added via free title updates. Bioshock and Gears of War 1 & 2 come to mind. Pretty rare still...